Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[SE Mom]

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

[David]

I didn't see your retraction of the Time Magazine proposition. My memory is that I see his words--wedding picture; but I cannot be sure without looking for the material of which I have piles at this point. I will take a look and see.

I will also say that I have never questioned that issue because in the picture, she looks late teens like the girls I see with my son. She surely does not look 30. On the other hand, the dress doesn't exactly look like a wedding dress either.

[David]

I think he probably isn’t the Anti Christ—in John 5:43, Jesus says “I who come in the name of the father you have rejected; but he who comes in his own name, you will accept.” In what capacity was Jesus rejected? Messiah. In what capacity is Anti Christ accepted? Messiah. Thus Anti Christ must fit the definition of Christ: Jew; from out of Bethlehem where David was (John 7:46). This guy flunks again.

[davandbar]

WELL... We haven’t actually CONFIRMED his birth place as of yet! :)

[Political Junkie Too]

...plus we have an accurate picture of her at the Christmas tree in 1972 which establishes her as much older than the wedding photo...

If establishing her age in the photos is dependent on the terminal being demolished in 1965, I don't think we established for a fact that this building was demolished, and not converted to some other use through 1971 (maybe I missed it). Although, I might expect the 1960-era ticket counter signs to have changed by 1971, if the airport pictures were from 1971.

-PJ

[David]

If establishing her age in the photos is dependent on the terminal being demolished in 1965, I don't think we established for a fact that this building was demolished, and not converted to some other use through 1971 (maybe I missed it). Although, I might expect the 1960-era ticket counter signs to have changed by 1971, if the airport pictures were from 1971.

I don't think it is. Although in both pictures, it looks as though the the terminal is being used as a ticket counter area and for baggage checkin. But the demolished terminal in 1965 would obviously prove both pictures were taken before the demolition date.

But what it doesn't look like is an arrival. The boy airport picture is purportedly Obama Sr. arriving at the Christmas of 1972. Well the boy doesn't look like eleven--looks more like seven; compare Obama Jr. in the school photos. And Obama Sr. looks a lot younger than he does in the family Christmas Tree picture. And I do think both pictures were taken at the same time.

The facts I can't get to: Who is the boy if it is not Obama? The boy looks like the boy on the couch in the Indonesia picture and I can't come up with any speculation as to who it might be other than Obama. And, if the airport pictures are taken at some date other than 1960-61, when were they taken?

[Gondring]

Thank you.

[Fred Nerks]

If you scan through the earlier part of this thread, you will see a picture of Ann sitting on the ground in a blue/green robe, Obama Jr by the Christmas tree, and Obama Sr in the background sitting on a sofa.

'the only photograph of the three of us together...

Stanly Ann Dunham at the airport...in 1971? Where's Maya? Mother is coming to visit me in two weeks? From Indonesia? ...(and father stops off to see his son before returning to Kenya?)

When did Obama Snr graduate?

Maya as a baby:Wiki says she was born August, 1970

Wikilink.

IMAGES link.

The website shows this image with caption attributed to his half sister Maya.

CAPTION:Barack poses with his mother, Ann, half sister, Maya, and maternal grandfather Stanley Dunham in Hawaii in the early 1970s after the family returned from Indonesia. Neighbors remember the close relationship between young Barack and his grandfather. (Photo courtesy of Maya Soetoro-Ng / March 23, 2007)

Barack Obama Sr. poses with his son in the Honolulu airport during Obama Sr.’s only visit to see his son while he was growing up in Hawaii. Young Barack was in the 5th grade when the photo was taken. (Photo courtesy of Barack Obama / March 23, 2007)

Hawaii. School photo. Fifth Grade in 1972.

[Calpernia]

>>>but that leaves you to explain who the boy is in the second airport photo which I cannot.

I still say it is Malik. If Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann were leaving for Kenya (which is the theory I believe), it makes perfect sense that Obama Sr. would have sent for his son to come help with packing and moving. Stanley Ann would have been in her first trimester and needed the help.

I don’t know who else the boy could have been. And I don’t trust the Wiki birthday that has been supplied for Malik on previous posts. Too many inconsistancies in information have been supplied to date.

[Fred Nerks]

THE OBAMA FILE. FAMILY. LINK.

The above photo has been reported as a wedding picture, but was really taken when Obama was 10 years old and Obama Sr. came to visit Anna and Barack in Hawaii."

Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia...

wiki link.

Going round in circles trying to make the images fit the story. ( Need help!)

Obama jnr commenced school for the first time at around seven, in Indonesia. He's there for approx four years. In 1970 his sister is born. Maya says she's nine years younger than Obama. That fits.

Then there's the school photograph from Grade five in 1972...if that airport photograph of Stanly Ann is dated 1971, the only one missing from the 'family' is Maya.

[Calpernia]

Problem is, jellybean found the link to the airport reconstruction. That picture of the airport is from the early 60s as per the construction timeline. So, Obama Jr. wasn’t born yet.

[RubyR]

I don’t know what to make about the airport reconstruction dilemma. But as to Malik - I linked an article earlier where his mother (Kezia) says he was born in March, 1958.

[Spunky]

"Then there's the school photograph from Grade five in 1972...if that airport photograph of Stanly Ann is dated 1971, the only one missing from the 'family' is Maya."

I know myself if I had a young baby and was going to the airport to meet or send off someone, especially if that someone had no connection to the baby, I would leave the baby home with grandma.

I think Maya was left with Grandma.

[Spunky]

"I linked an article earlier where his mother (Kezia) says he was born in March, 1958."

Thanks! Could you possibly link it again?

[RubyR]

Found it! Posted at #2522

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506338/Barack-Obamas-stepmother-living-Bracknell-reveals-close-bond-—mother.html

[Diver Dave]

Doubt this is relative, but here's a link to a CNN video of their interview with "Gramma Sarah" in Kenya dated 7 Jan 08

In Kenya, Obama's relatives 'pray' for victory

[Diver Dave]

Another item from my Avista search...

From allAfrica.com
Kenya: Special Report: Sleepy Little Village Where Obama Traces His Own Roots

this is an article from 2004. Here's a quote from the last 4 paragraphs of the article...

According to the family, Obama's father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959. While there, he worked for an oil company and married his second wife, a white woman, named Anna Toot, and their union produced Barack Obama Jr.

Obama's book says Obama Snr left his family in Hawaii after winning a scholarship to study in Harvard when his son was two years old.

The marriage later broke up after Anna's father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.

"Anna's father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage," remembers Sarah.

[Calpernia]

The old airport link that jellybean found show that the pictures of Stanley Ann, Obama Sr. and the ‘mystery boy’ were taken in the old airport. That site also had a timeline for construction showing that the photos had to have been taken in the early 60s.

The map Political Junkie found of the old airport show the pictures were taken in departure.

So if those pictures were taken circa ‘61-’62, that boy can’t be Obama Jr. He was not born yet.

The pictures at the airport, being dated circa ‘61-’62, strongly implies that Stanley Ann and Obama Sr. are leaving for someplace. I subscribe to te Kenya theory and Andy Martin’s book coming out this week should confirm that.

The site USAfricaonline that had Obama’s family interviewed a few months ago when they claimed Obama was Kenyan born has had interviews pulled and modified since they have been posted online. Therefore articles claiming something like Kezia’s birthday of Malik cannot be accepted as truth.

I say it looks like Malik, but even if it isn’t, I don’t think it is unusual to assume it is one of Obama Sr’s family members. Maybe even a nephew. But if Stanley Ann was going to Kenya for extended stay, it would not be unusual for Obama Sr. to send for help since she was in her first trimester.

[tsmith130]

But if Stanley Ann was going to Kenya for extended stay, it would not be unusual for Obama Sr. to send for help since she was in her first trimester.

No logical thinking person would find it usual at all to send for a 10 year old child from a country 1/2 a world away to come help a full grown man and his 3 month pregnant wife get on a flight to fly back 1/2 a world away. That's just absolutely ridiculous.

[Calpernia]

Pack, not ‘get on a flight’.

[tsmith130]

Oh right....Barack Obama Sr, Ann, her mother and her father weren’t enough to help ‘pack’. They needed a 10 year old from Kenya to help them. Fergodssake.....