Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
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“He comes out with this very emphatic constitutional reference, using the self-satisfied tone of one who knows he’s nailed it... then seems to catch himself, glances down and to the side to pick up another thought to cover the too-revealing comment.”
Let me stipulate that WJC is a slimey horn-dog. That said, I think you are reading too much into his remark. It appears to me that the reporter asked him whether he thought Obama was qualified to serve as president; the self-satisfied smirk came from Clinton’s finding a way to duck the question while seeming to answer it. Implicitly his answer amounted to: “Obama is technically qualified (because the Constitution says so), but the PEOPLE decide who would be the better president. There’s now 2 choices (Obama and McCain).” Of these 2, Clinton believes Obama should win.
The sneakiness of his answer lies in that a) he never provides his personal opinion of whether Obama is qualified in more than a pure technical sense; b) he frames the answer as being a choice between Obama and McCain (and hence never has to even implicitly address whether Obama is more qualified than HRC or whether SHE “should” have won the
nomination/presidency; and c) he’s left enough ambiguity about “should” that some will interpret it as WJC’s endorsement of Obama as the better candidate while others will interpret it as I believe Clinton intended it: in light of the conditions specified—i.e., that the people will choose—Obama “should” (i.e., is likely to) win. I think it is a forecast/speculation, NOT a normative statement.
Worth repeating...
Tuesday, August 05, 2008 7:32:22 AM · 4,237 of 4,243
null and void to Grampa Dave; wtc911
Why do I get the feeling I’m dealing with a cheap NY City Lawyer, which I don’t believe you are.
He’s been a PITA for a long time. Always seems to end up on the left side of issues, IIRC...
Thanks. You are right.
Show me where Obama identifies that picture as a wedding picture. I told you before that I MISTAKENLY identified it as a wedding picture from the Time magazine early on this thread, . To my knowledge Obama never said it was and Time never said it was. I mistakenly said it was and later apologized on this thread for having started that idea.
If you have evidence that Obama said it was their wedding picture post the source or link to that quote.
Even an expired passport is valid proof of citizenship.
Your analysis makes sense. I tend to favor Occam’s Razor whenever an explanation is up for grabs, and this certainly fits. If it were this one comment by Bill, taken by itself, then I’d readily agree with you that I read too much into it. The only reason I felt it worth mentioning was that I DID notice it, and it’s the totality of the comments between the tagteam of Hillary and Bill that bothers me. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised at too much. That said, your well-reasoned comments hold weight, and I’m happy to cede. Should there actually turn out to be any real subtext, we’ll find out in most definite terms anyway. Won’t have to speculate.
Thanks for your post.
Yes, but being a mere citizen is a necessary, but not sufficient, requirement to being constitutionally qualified to be president.
Aye. Never ever ever ever put anything past the clintons.
Sorry. That's the second time I have done it to you. I have not posted a response. I think I have him saying either "wedding" or "wedding dress" but I will look again and if it is only your post I will give up and post that. I'm out of the office so I can't look until tonight but will make it a point to do so.
That's not law, it is custom, and for some things it's the published regulation. Yet in any case, if there's reasonable evidence or testimony that contradicts the assumption of proven citizenship given by any document -- such as passport -- it would be unreasonable, if not actionable misfeasence of office to ignore contrary claims.
The Presidency is the most powerful office in the world. You would accept an expired passport for the Presidency?
There was no indication in post 4231 by Calpenia that Presidential qualification was once again being brought into the conversation, so I commented only on the citizenship proof issue.
As far as B. Hussein Obama's status is concerned, he apparently isn't a naturalized citizen, having obtained citizenship though his mother and possibly Birth in HI.
If He isn't qualified Hillary will make it known on day one of the Commie Convention in Denver.
If I were only 99.9% sure my brakes were good, I'd have them checked.
Is my Country worth less than my car or my life?
No she won't.
She will be floating serenely above the fray while her flying monkeys do the dirty work.
If the Obamaniacs think she had anything personally to do with his demise, they'd vote for the republican liberal instead of the democrat liberal just out of pure spite.
Perhaps. We have any number of people on FR who would cut their own throats to vote against Obama, I'm sure that a large number of democrats would do anything to "get" the one who destroyed their "Messiah"
Especially given that McCain already supports so much of their agenda...
Dead link...
The link opens for me, but that probably is because I'm on the USPS intranet.
Obama paid money to MoveOn.Org for 'Credit Card Fees'. Another company that received payment from Obama, also called 'Credit Card Fees', is listed on OpenSecrets.Org as receiving this money for 'Processing Contributions'.
My question...is there any conceivable situation where MoveOn receives $$ from Obama to process contributions?
Ah. Thanks.
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