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Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom

Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.

The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.

The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.

Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.

McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.

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To: pissant

“And further, HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.”

I stnad by that statement as there is not one iota of evidence otherwise.

Was he born elsewhere and whisked to the US on a U2 spy plane?


501 posted on 07/03/2008 9:57:40 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: PhatHead
I agree, but this is not a court of law. Circumstantially, at least from what I have gleaned over the last couple of days, the certificates on fightthesmears.com and dailykos appear to be derived from the same file, which now has been reported to be a forgery.

I'll ask this question.

How do we know that the McKinnon files weren't derived from the fightthesmears.com and daily kos file?

502 posted on 07/03/2008 10:00:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: null and void

Yes he was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born US citizen.

http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate


503 posted on 07/03/2008 10:00:32 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: Dog Gone

Sorry buddy, but that’s ignorance your parading there


504 posted on 07/03/2008 10:02:26 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (What value does Black Liberation Theology hold in a post racial Republic?)
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To: taraytarah

Before I prove Obama is an America, prove to me you are not a Soviet spy. I dont want to give intel to the enemy.


505 posted on 07/03/2008 10:03:35 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: hollister23

Great questions!

I’ll try on this thread, since I haven’t seen this answered yet -

Where was Obama on 9-11 - and what were his immediate comments to his constituents following?

(BTW - I really can’t find the information. I know what my state senator did in the days following.)


506 posted on 07/03/2008 10:03:54 PM PDT by porter_knorr
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To: Fred Nerks

Well, duh! Reminder to self :Don’t drink the homebrew while engaging in conspiracy.


507 posted on 07/03/2008 10:05:09 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: WOSG
If Obama’s birth cert is not real, does it even mean anything, since he was born in hawaii?

WAS he born in Hawaii? Is there any proof? I can just as easily say he was born in Kenya or anywhere else.

508 posted on 07/03/2008 10:07:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: WOSG
Was he born elsewhere and whisked to the US on a U2 spy plane?

Without a genuine birth certificate, we don't know where he was born. There is no third party witnesses. No Hawaiian newspaper recorded his birth. No record has come forth from the two Hawiian hospitals said to be where Obama was born. No record of baptism. Nothing, zilch, nada, ...but an obviously forged birth certificate.

509 posted on 07/03/2008 10:08:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: FreeReign
The fightthesmears.com file is much lower resolution. If they are from the same source, it did not originate with the one on fightthesmears.com. I agree it is still possible they are not from the same source at all, but there is no way to demonstrate that from the files as posted, and at least one of them we now know to be fake.

Look, I suspect there is nothing to all of this because I have seen nothing compelling or credible to suggest that Obama was not born in the United States, but this admission of forgery makes it a lot more interesting to me.

510 posted on 07/03/2008 10:09:00 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: pissant; jrooney
It was demonstrated a forgery, OpenDNA or not.

Wasn't arguing that point, just asking for anyone, ANYONE on this thread to please post where OpenDNA "suggests that others "print one up" for candidate Obama" as this article claims.

511 posted on 07/03/2008 10:09:14 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: FreeReign

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12956.htm

One image created and posted by OpenDNA is an “almost blank” template of a State of Hawaii Certification of Live Birth. Only two data fields are filled in: the ISLAND OF BIRTH (”Oahu”) and the HOUR OF BIRTH (7:24 PM). With the arrogance on one with no fear of being caught, “OpenDNA” described correctly the crime he was preparing. Neither of the images have a posted date stamp, but embedded EXIF information contains the time stamp of June 12 at 8:24am, almost exactly the same day and time Daily Kos posted the purported Obama birth certificate.

http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m35/opendna/


512 posted on 07/03/2008 10:13:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: icwhatudo
It looks like no one bothered asking Kos to verify the BC at DailyKos...interesting.

’ it's funny that NOBODY on this thread (0+ / 0-)
even bothers to ask Kos WHERE he got this.

Not that he could tell us, but everyone accepts it without any verification? And how, exactly, does that makes us any better than the asses that believe the rumors?

Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room! - President Merkin Muffley

by AlyoshaKaramazov on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 09:36:00 AM PDT’

513 posted on 07/03/2008 10:14:08 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: gswilder
To have blanked out the text of the BHO and then replaced those areas with the hatched green pattern, and then have that hatched pattern align so well, would be almost impossible. If that had been done, it would have already been discovered

You are right, it is impossible, thats why the hatched pattern doesn't line up. Its most obvious where OpenDNA covered up "AFRICAN" under the words FATHERS RACE". If you look under the letters FA you will see two straight lines like this = but in openDNA's creation the lines do not match up. Will post it in a little bit.

514 posted on 07/03/2008 10:14:19 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Red Steel

Without a genuine birth certificate, we don’t know where he was born.

Does Obama have a Passport? If he does then he has a genuine birth certificate. Whatever his name and place of birth on his passport is proof of citizenship...period, end of story...whether it was faked or not. A valid passport is proof of citizenship.


515 posted on 07/03/2008 10:14:37 PM PDT by weston
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To: Travis McGee

If you use ALL CAPS then it PROVES that Orenthal Hussein Mugabe Amin Osama fee-fi-fobama Obama was born in Hawaii.


516 posted on 07/03/2008 10:14:46 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: David

)I take back the repbu’s did it maybe.


517 posted on 07/03/2008 10:14:58 PM PDT by fatima
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To: FreeReign

“How do we know that the McKinnon files weren’t derived from the fightthesmears.com and daily kos file?”

Time/date stamps were in logical order to arrive at the KOS final product.


518 posted on 07/03/2008 10:15:42 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (This adjustable font brought to you by the free market.)
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To: David

No McCain and Nobama.... what a beautiful mindframe in which to spend July 4th.

Even if it’s not real, thank you for the sweet dreams, Sir....


519 posted on 07/03/2008 10:15:56 PM PDT by txhurl (hot diggity dog!)
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To: Plutarch
I dont see how he can come out of this either way without it sticking to him and making him look just plain stupid and using extremely poor judgment at the least.

His book should have been titled ‘the audacity of stupidity’.

If Hilary steps back into the ring I dont think she is going to get much traction now either, she is already forgotten. An Al Gore entrance on the horizon?

520 posted on 07/03/2008 10:16:21 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: All

521 posted on 07/03/2008 10:20:09 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy... I'm the cartoonist for iowapresidentialwatch.com)
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To: SE Mom

TICK,TICK,TICK,
522 posted on 07/03/2008 10:21:28 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Fred Nerks

“...has earned the right to be his party’s nominee, and no loophole should prevent him from competing in this campaign,” Obama said.

I believe Jason Lewis said it today, that Obama’s policy is one of bargaining. You turn your head and I’ll turn mine.


523 posted on 07/03/2008 10:22:24 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (This adjustable font brought to you by the free market.)
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To: hollister23
Every journalist on a daily basis needs to ask him why he's afraid to meet JM at a couple of town hall meetings.

Exactly.

I'm not too bothered if he studied other religions in his life, people take degrees in "Comparative Religion" after all but all this vagueness about a piece of paper, which could be so easily resolved by the campaign reminds me of John Kerry & his SF180, what's being hidden and why?

524 posted on 07/03/2008 10:22:24 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: WOSG
I stnad by that statement as there is not one iota of evidence otherwise.

The only evidence that you have is the word of a deceitful, self-serving Marxist who quickly discards all liabilities.

Before I prove Obama is an America, prove to me you are not a Soviet spy. I dont want to give intel to the enemy.

I think you have not yet been enlightened as to who the real and threatening enemy is.

525 posted on 07/03/2008 10:22:57 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: hollister23; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; devolve; BOBTHENAILER; BIGLOOK; ...
OBAMA VISITED KARACHI IN 1981


526 posted on 07/03/2008 10:24:11 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhatHead
How do we know that the McKinnon files weren't derived from the fightthesmears.com and daily kos file?

The fightthesmears.com file is much lower resolution.

The McKinnon photobucket file is 800 x 781 pixels.

Link

The dailykos file is 2427 x 2369 pixels.

Link

Seems to me that the McKinnon photobucket file is lower resolution.

527 posted on 07/03/2008 10:26:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: weston
The Obama campaign has not made his passport information public. I haven't seen any evidence of it in the public domain.

Whatever his name and place of birth on his passport is proof of citizenship...period, end of story...whether it was faked or not. A valid passport is proof of citizenship.

As far as I know, he has a passport from Kenya or Toga. And usually a passport serves a proof of citizenship but not necessarily...where he used fraudulent means to obtain one.

And from what I've seen, he's being fraudulent with this birth certificate.

528 posted on 07/03/2008 10:26:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

China got the most.


529 posted on 07/03/2008 10:26:55 PM PDT by fatima
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To: PhilDragoo

and if he visited Karachi, he has a valid Passport and all this fake birth certificate stuff is just a Democrat ruse to make Conservatives look whacked.

There are plenty of valid reasons to vote against Obama


530 posted on 07/03/2008 10:27:32 PM PDT by weston
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To: Calpernia

:)((((Hugs))))


531 posted on 07/03/2008 10:29:30 PM PDT by fatima
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To: PhilDragoo; pissant; Jeff Head

Well, he certainly did have a head full of hair then, didn’t he?

Obama and Nutjob smooching. No islam here, no way, uh uh.


532 posted on 07/03/2008 10:29:58 PM PDT by txhurl (omg)
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To: littlehouse36
How do we know that the McKinnon files weren’t derived from the fightthesmears.com and daily kos file?

Time/date stamps were in logical order to arrive at the KOS final product.

Please document.

Thanks.

533 posted on 07/03/2008 10:30:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: PhilDragoo

The most successful mole/sleeper in history on the horizon?


534 posted on 07/03/2008 10:31:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: PhilDragoo
Wait a minute....that looks real...
535 posted on 07/03/2008 10:33:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: weston

All issued U.S. passports are automatically valid? Really? Gee, I guess those stories of bogus fraudulent passports must all be untrue. I’m glad to know that you have put the final word to this story.

LOL.


536 posted on 07/03/2008 10:34:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: ErnBatavia
Funny, the NYT is not worried about being bitten in the arse when questioning McCain's legitimacy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

537 posted on 07/03/2008 10:35:29 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah, it freakin does. !!!


538 posted on 07/03/2008 10:36:06 PM PDT by txhurl (omg)
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To: PhilDragoo

bump! bump! buuuuuuuuummmmmmp!


539 posted on 07/03/2008 10:38:19 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: WOSG
Yes he was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born US citizen.

wishful thinking ?

540 posted on 07/03/2008 10:38:25 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: David

Thank you David.What’s the bottom line do we shoot off fireworks or not and if we shoot them off what do we get:)We might not like what we get slow draw.I see.:)


541 posted on 07/03/2008 10:39:13 PM PDT by fatima
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To: PhilDragoo

After Obama visited Pakistan, is that when he changed his name from Barry Soetoro to Barrack Hussein Obama? If so, why?


542 posted on 07/03/2008 10:39:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Fred Nerks
when we practice to deceive...and that's why IMO, the number was 'blacked out' - because there never was a number on it to begin with...

Right. I posted the Catch 22 on another thread. No way to come up with a number without it causing more problems.

UNLESS...the certificate i.d. is a problem in and of itself?

543 posted on 07/03/2008 10:40:48 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Travis McGee

and whose word would anyone take against the validity of a passport already issued by the state department? Yours?
LOL


544 posted on 07/03/2008 10:40:54 PM PDT by weston
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To: weston

The point is, the question of his birth remains unanswered.

Why can’t he produce a US BC?


545 posted on 07/03/2008 10:45:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: David

I, for one, would love a primary ‘do over’.


546 posted on 07/03/2008 10:45:15 PM PDT by hsrazorback1 (To get what you had, do what you did.)
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To: Travis McGee

I agree and we may never know the answer, but we will have to defeat him on real issues. This rabbit trail will only serve as useless diversion.


547 posted on 07/03/2008 10:48:01 PM PDT by weston
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To: PhilDragoo

Phil, please confirm that’s real.

If it is, you have just made history.


548 posted on 07/03/2008 10:48:31 PM PDT by txhurl (omg)
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To: musicman

bookmark


549 posted on 07/03/2008 10:49:04 PM PDT by musicman
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To: taraytarah

Yes ,do you know how to check pings?


550 posted on 07/03/2008 10:49:16 PM PDT by fatima
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