Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid
Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]
Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)
Great, now it’s down to the two of you, the impotent retired CPA and whats-it-called document inspector who gets off on calling a high school girl a slut and believes that the KGB paid for her to fly to Kenya to give birth in a mud hut, and the woman who whinges and whines and accuses others of what she does best, and then offers to pray for you.
Have a nice day, the pair of you. I’m going back to my regular programming. Trying to make sense of the entire fiasco, and trying my best to express the result of the work done by a group of freepers over two years.
Two thoughts. One, no decently credentialed investigator ANYWHERE has raised serious doubts as to the identity of Obama’s mother.
Two: the nastiest, least honest & most reading-comprehension-challenged posters on FR are finally leaving me alone. Can’t ask for more than that; thank you profusely JR.
Fantasywriter,
Excellent question, well put!
It asks for RIGOROUS research to be done.
A quest for information that is not based on subterfuge, rather a respectful inquiry, searching for contemporaneous, and verifiable information.
A search that does not have as it’s destination a pre conceived one, rather one that can be traced from beginning to end in a rational logical fashion.
Seizethecarp,
I direct to you the same words that I said to Fantasywriter, and commend you for posting the topic asking for input concerning the parentage of the occupant of the white house.
To those who agree with the PRINCIPLES I have said above, I say welcome and it is good that there are like minded folk that want to see justice done.
To those that would argue I say this:
I value rationality, I value a genuine search for the truth, wherever it may lead.
Above all, I value honesty and take seriously the command in the Good Book : Do not bear false witness against your neighbor.
I take those words SERIOUSLY.
I ask them to look inside themselves and see what is the effects of their actions, what is the effects of their words, whether ill has been done, and if ill has been done, to change, and do the wrong things no more.
I do not bear them ill will, rather I pray for them, that there be healing and then, together, we may combat the evil that threatens our lives, our loved ones, and our freedoms.
Many thanks,
Wild Highlander 57
Wow; that was beautiful, WH57. Thank you so much. Your words are an oasis of kindness in a sea of tension. May God bless you & above all keep & protect you.
I didn’t ping JR personally out of courtesy & respect. He has his hands full riding herd on a site as big as this one. I don’t ping him lightly. Yes, I thanked him. I thanked him from my heart. But the ping rule doesn’t always apply in JR’s case. He has enough to do w’out being pinged 24/7. Perhaps someone will relay my gratitude. But if not, fine. I thanked him publically, and that should suffice to all except the most disruptive members on the site.
You don’t want me to go back over my pings for the past yr or so & add up how many times you’ve posted to me/insulted me [when I totally ignored you, & made no reply at all]. You really, really don’t.
I think I’m being stalked!
The problem appears to be that one must not think for oneself, one must wait to see it in the movies, hear it from a talking head on the TV, wait for a blogger to post it, or hope and pray that someone with half an ounce of imagination and lots of courage, will stumble upon the clue that this fraud wasn’t perpetrated by amatuers, it’s the result of careful planning by a cabal that goes back at least to the early eighties. They found themselves a puppet with the right skin-tone, he was clean and articulate, remember ? and they hired a homegrown terrorist now masquerading as a distinguished professor to write a fiction that sucked in the majority of the citizens (and probably the 30 million illegals as well) because they wanted it to be true, when he promised them the oceans would cease to rise and the planet would cool, and he would rid the world of nuclear weapons, and fundamentally change America; when he promised them utopia.
He literally has to destroy your nation and bring the entire free world to its knees before someone wakes up, and says...OMG...who is this man? Why is he where he is, he’s obviously nothing but a puppet and our lives are being ruined by someone of whom we know nothing.
It’s a scary place to be, that void; from which it seems there are just a very few lonely voices calling:
YOU DON’T KNOW WHO HE IS. You don’t know who his parents were, you don’t know when he was born, you don’t know where he came from, you don’t even know his birthdate.
And all I hear back by way of rebuttal is, I’m told I’m unable to read, I’m not trustworthy, I’m leading you astray, there are endless documents to prove who he is, who his mother was. And you know what happens as a result?
You’re back in Dreams From My Father. Every tampered document from the INS file for example leads you straight back to the greatest fraud of all time in the history of humanity.
You do know that one of the authors of a book on the subject had the UNREDACTED INS file for two years before she published, and a few days before the book was released, she was able to change the entire entry on Ruth Ndesandjo on wiki, or don’t you?
The INS file released to Mathers was so heavily redacted it was worthless, and a number of items that clearly show tampering indicate you never saw what you needed to see, and that’s the name of the kenyan’s wife and child.
She’s achieving her ends. She’s distracting you. She will keep doing it until you bend or break. I’ve just run across a comment from her to me that’s over a year old, in which she suggested that the Mercer classmates would have to kill Maxine Box if she lied. Stay away.
Here is the quote. Nothing in it about classmates having to kill Box. More misrepresentation/lack of reading comprehension.
“So according to your theory, SAD’s best friend lied to reporters? And she did this at the behest of the Obama campaign?
Wasn’t that a bit risky? What if she was approached with a false script and asked to read from it during any interviews she gave. And what if, instead of going along, Maxine Box had said, “No thanks; I’d prefer to tell the truth about my best friend.”?
Wouldn’t they then have had to kill Box? Wouldn’t she, as the saying goes, have ‘known too much’?”
It is, as Rush says, illustrating absurdity w absurdity. Even as such, there is no mention in it of the classmates killing Box. If anyone has basic reading skills & comprehension, they will see that the quote was entirely misrepresented.
The “they” in your post snippet below is the 0 “Chicago machine”, the Daly version on steroids.
“....“So according to your theory,SAD’s best friend lied to reporters? And she did this at the behest of the Obama campaign? Wasn’t that a bit risky? What if she was approached with a false script and asked to read from it during any interviews she gave. And what if,instead of going along,Maxine Box had said,“No thanks; I’d prefer to tell the truth about my best friend.”?
Wouldn’t they then have had to kill Box? Wouldn’t she,as the saying goes,have ‘known too much’?”
WH comment:
This is what we are up against.
You are correct. & to be clear, I do not believe the Chicago Machine is above committing murder. I just don’t think they would take the risk of being compromised by somebody like Box. It just doesn’t strike me as the way they operate.
Recollections
Therefore, to delve deeper into the rabbit hole of Obama’s birth, below are notes from a NEVER BEFORE RELEASED telephone interview conducted by a fellow investigator (from an adjacent "research team" who must remain anonymous) with Susan Blake a week before the Inauguration.
It should be pointed out that the interviewer was very thorough and accurate in capturing highlights of the hour-plus telephone interview with Blake. However, he said that in interviewing her, at times it was difficult to discern what was truth, half-truth, embellishment, or misremembered from Dunham's brief and unexpected visit that took place nearly 50 years ago.
These raw notes show some new information and inconsistencies that seem to both AID while HINDERING Blake’s believability as a "witness" to Obama II and his mother’s whereabouts from 1960-1962.
1. Susan has been contacted now by many individuals especially in the last 2 days. One of her first contacts was back in August or so of 2008 by Michael Patrick Leahy, writer of the book "What Does Barack Obama Believe" available from Amazon. Much of what Susan has heard about her other interviews she feels has been distorted.
2. She was friend and confidante of Stanley Ann during her High School years, knew Stanley (she went by STANLEY not Ann) and that she was a very forward, articulate woman who shared much of her thoughts with her friends.
3. Stanley left in spring of 1960 and wrote cards and letters from Hawaii over a year or so that she was there. She sent a Christmas card to Susan stating she was dating a Kenyan student and was "in love." In spring of 1961 Stanley sent another letter stating she had been married and was expecting a baby.
4. Susan had gone on vacation to Santa Cruz in summer of '61, had returned mid August because she remembered the fires around Santa Cruz at that time which caused her to return home. Soon after she was back, her mother told her that Stanley was coming to visit. Stanley had the newborn Barack Obama, roughly 3 weeks old. To Susan's best recollection it was sometime around Aug. 25th to Aug 30th.
5. Stanley told Susan she was only in Seattle for a short visit, going on to Boston to find residence and a job, because she intended to go there for Senior's graduated studies. She was to fly to Boston shortly after their visit.
6. Her understanding was that Stanley had waited until the baby was old enough to fly according to what Stanley said of the doctor. She was very much "in love" with Barack Obama Sr. happy to have the newborn, although not proficient at changing a diaper, which Susan did. "My claim to fame is that I changed Barack Obama's diaper".
7. She thought that Stanley was going to fly to Boston, establish her domicile etc., then return thru Seattle to Hawaii. She said SHE NEVER SAW HER AGAIN, although she knew through another mutual friend John, and Maxine Box, that she was again in Seattle in spring 1962. She said from what she's read that Stanley was a correspondence student at the UW in fall 1961, but that she didn't necessarily have to be there to be a correspondence student. However she knew Stanley was there in spring 1962.
8. Susan didn't understand why all the distortions or "mystery" that is being purported, she thinks it’s all very straight forward, that Stanley had BO in Honolulu, married BO prior to that, they were in love. She also mentioned that she's received calls from bewildered teachers/other students from interviewers asking about communist activity and other strange behaviors which she personally knows nothing of.
9. She states that while Stanley was there she stayed with a friend of Stanley Ann's mother, even borrowed a car to come see Susan. Didn't know who that was or where they lived.
10. Sadly, Susan hung up on me after the conversation deviated to why all the controversy surrounding his birth, his citizenship. Her understanding is that BO was a Natural Born Citizen by virtue of Stanley being a US citizen at time of birth IN HONOLULU. She did know that BO SR. was a KENYAN national, that according to Stanley "he was being groomed for political office" and that Barack Obama was a dual citizen but it didn’t matter, he was an NBC. When I stated what I firmly believe, that BOTH parents must be US citizens the phone clicked and she wasn’t on the other end.
I see your point.
Looking beyond that, if we discard everything- the transcripts, the foia’ed documents, non Hawaii birth certificates, marriage documents, pictures, etc- the question then is:
With what do we start, and what is real?
Excellent analysis. Speaking for myself, at this point I’m going w the CCP. There’s just something about Arpaio & Zullo that engenders trust. They have skills & resources that most lack, & they have undying commitment. Nor are they done. They are on Obama’s trail like bloodhounds, & they’ve already turned up quite a bit. More, I wd imagine, than we at this point are aware of. [Why else was Al Hendershot handcuffed & his computer confiscated, shortly after meeting w the CCP? Obama is getting nervous, & it shows.]
So that is my position. I’m w the CCP all the way. We shall see what their final results look like...hopefully sooner than later.
I’m sitting here shaking my head in utter disbelief that an adult could be so incapable of studying the material that exists and forming their own conclusions - the facts are there hidden in plain sight. You can’t make Stanley Ann Dunham into Anna Obama because they just don’t fit without everyone becoming a contortionist and turning themselves inside out and contradicting each other.
I think I hear William Ayres laughing, he’s chuckling, saying - I KNEW THEY WOULD NEVER WORK IT OUT!
Regarding the posse, they indeed are taking the right approach.
They are dealing with the basic documents in a persons life; birth certificate, social security number, draft registration. Not all go to college, so thats not as important as those three.
Although when they get done with the big three, they should go after the college info.
Somebody showed em a fake birth cercertificate ?
Investigate the doc and if its bogus, go after the perps.
SSN come up with two people on it when plugged into a skiptrace search?
Investigate that and go after the ID thief/thieves.
Selective service registration form look wrong?
Dig into how and why and go after anybody involved with creating it.
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