How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

[Scythian]

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?

[Elsie]

 

I love my Faith and it pains me to see such bigotry against Mormons.

 

I hear what you're saying; but they fall on deaf ears because the LDS Organization; based in Salt Lake City; STILL publishes this crap every year!!!

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

 

Then perhaps you're  the one who can shed light on what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism that JS learned; right?

[Elsie]

I find it interesting that the critics of my Faith don’t want to dwell one topic to discuss the truth of falsehood, but choose to spam topics all over the place.

I'm pretty adamant about wanting to know that UNTRUE thingy; wanna start there?

[nowandlater]

Keep at it Elsie. Your spam tactics only strengthen my point. Do you see a Mormon spamming that other Faiths are wrong? Some are reacting defensively, yes, but the truth is they are not. Have it and may God bless you and wish that you may find peace with Mormons or the other 6 billion people on the planet who believe differently than you.

[nowandlater]

I don’t see the issue. I believe my Faith is correct and others are misguided in some respects. Whether, the misguidance is small or large, that is up to God not me.

But you spam doesn’t lessen or enhance the truth. It is just you spamming and that is it.

[ejonesie22]

Irony, sweet sweet irony...

[restornu]

That is speaking plainly to distortors of truth.

It is you knickers that is bunched up!

There already is a Town Square it is call labled OPEN.

On the religion forum the many faiths can not speak plainly because of restrictions.

It is the radicals who can trash anothers faith without punity!

[ejonesie22]

Go here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2371071/posts?page=714#714

Pick any of the three topics, dwell on it please.

You make the challenge so lets see something different from the LDS this time.

Topics are not “spammed”, but dogma directly from LDS SOURCES over a number of areas are posted because the LDS themselves cannot answer them in an honest straight forward manner (for obvious reason, but that is another matter.)

The fact that LDS folks cannot answer their own contradictions is not “bigotry” it's just fact.

Of course victim hood is one of the leading products of LDS Inc....

Here is a chance to break the cycle.

Three topics, any one of which you can take on...

Oh, because I say so is not an answer to any question.

[greyfoxx39]

But you spam your 60,000 missionaries and uncounted TV and web commercials touting your "correct church" doesn’t lessen or enhance the truth. It is just you spamming and that is it.

Odd, how frightening to mormons who have this huge worldwide missionary program that a few threads on FR are when according to Ezra Taft Benson, former LDS prophet,

Our main task is to declare the gospel and do it effectively.

LDS.org

Not to mention that your "correct" church's missionary program defies the law to do its "spamming".

LDS missionaries: Undocumented immigrants walk fine line when spreading their faith

This whining to Jim by mormons wanting to shut down rebuttal to their proselytizing on FR has been going on for more than two years that I can remember.

For example...

Give it a rest.

[Elsie]

Do you see a Mormon spamming that other Faiths are wrong?

 

I'm just one man: The LDS Organization® prints Hundreds of Thousands of THIS yearly!

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

 

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How about a nice monument: with the words etched in stone?

 

Would THAT satisfy you??

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The LDS headquarters; in the heart of a modern  US city, visited by THOUSANDS daily, has this placed in prominent view:

 

 

...which reiterates the charge that "they are all wrong; they teach for doctrines the commandments of men".

[Elsie]

It is just you spamming and that is it.

Yup - jus widdle ol' me...

me & Elijah

Romans 11:3-4
3. "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me"?
4. And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal."

[Elsie]

It is the radicals who can trash anothers faith without punity!

So you now agree that JOSEPH SMITH was a RADICAL???

He surely 'trashed' ALL religions!!

Oh...

Wait...

That wasn't JS: that was GOD; I forgot.

[Elsie]

...wanna start there?

Evidently not.

[greyfoxx39]

It is the radicals who can trash anothers faith without punity!

What's a "punity"? Sounds kinda like a puny argument to me.

[SZonian]

That’s what I was saying, DON’T post on Religious forums so you CAN “speak plainly”.

But, that is just it, you don’t want the others to be able to “speak plainly” about mormonism so you hide behind the protections offered by the forums.

Others post in Town Square, why not mormons?

Joe Smith trashed Presbyterians and their faith, is he a radical?

SZ

[Elsie]

But; it is MUCH more effective if one DOES has some punity with them.

Messier...

[Elsie]

Others post in Town Square, why not mormons?

[Elsie]

[Colofornian]

Do you see a Mormon spamming that other Faiths are wrong?

Greyfoxx hit it on the head: ...you spam your 60,000 missionaries and uncounted TV and web commercials touting your "correct church" doesn’t lessen or enhance the truth. It is just you spamming and that is it. Odd, how frightening to mormons who have this huge worldwide missionary program that a few threads on FR are...

The bottom line, nowandlater, is that all Mormons "delegate" their spamming to missionaries and Lds pen-pushers (Pearl of Great Price translators, curricula, Ensign mag, etc.)...
...courtesy of your tithes to have Mormom minion missionaries do that for y'all...
...the typical Lds philosophy behind what we hear is: "Speak softly and carry a big Pearl of Great Price stick")

Definition of a 'big Pearl of Great Price stick':
"You Christian sects are 100% wrong;
"Your churches are 100% unjoinable;
100% apostates;
100% creedally putrid;
100% corrupt as either believers -- or, well at least your leaders /teachers /writers/ administrators/evangelists/missionaries
...Signed: Cordially, your "nice" Mormon neighbor
P.S. "Of course, we'll be polite & use Lds missionary doorstep language like 'universal apostasy' instead of pointing our fingers right @ you..."
"...and we'll fund the outer darkness out of hundreds of different Pearl of Great Price translations which mention ALL of the above as supposedly 'representative' of what our god thinks of you...so our 'big stick' will seem once-removed..."
"...But make no mistake about it, we've sent out literally over 1 million Lds missionaries who've carried this 'Big Stick' around the world!!!"

"R.I.P. Christian -- in that big spiritual graveyard Joseph Smith dug for you"

[restornu]

It is fine the way it is there are other faiths also being trashed on the RF.

[SZonian]

Is dodgeball a major component of mormonism? Because you do a lot of it. How about building strawmen? Because that is what your reply is. I wasn’t asking, nor was I referring to other faiths except Presbyterianism.

Is Joe Smith a radical? A simple Y or N will suffice.

And I would remind you that you were the one who posited the statement about radicals.

SZ