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12,000 Years Old Unexplained Structure [Gobekli Tepe]
via UTUBE ^ | 2/10/2011 | HISTORY CHANNEL

Posted on 04/18/2011 4:25:18 PM PDT by stockpirate

This site is 12,000 years old, the most advanced strutures ever found.

Several video's on the link


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anatolia; blacksea; blackseaflood; catalhoyuk; catalhuyuk; ggg; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; prehistory; sanliurfa; sunkenciv; turkey
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To: stockpirate
Obviously, the structure is a Ritual Object!

Probably something connected to a Fertility Cult.

More Study is needed...

Please send a Research Grant Application to....

Oh, and does anyone know a good publishing agent for the forthcoming book?

61 posted on 04/18/2011 9:23:38 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: AngieGal

ping to video


62 posted on 04/18/2011 9:27:30 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: muawiyah

A meteor hit the earth around 10,000 BC it was huge...causing tidal waves throughout the earth and quakes...it took 200 years for the atmosphere to clear up. It took out Atlantis and what humans, enosh etc that were left migrated into the Egypt area. That was about the only place that the atmosphere was livable.


63 posted on 04/18/2011 9:32:56 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 Blasphemy of them which say they're Israelites, and are not, but are the synaGOGue of Satan.)
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To: Big Bronson

You be correct!!!! Now where did those little green men get off to, why they be us of course.


64 posted on 04/18/2011 9:39:23 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: stockpirate

They say the underwater structure near Japan is even older than this.


65 posted on 04/18/2011 10:57:49 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: little jeremiah
The ocean must have been quite a bit lower quite a few thousands of years ago.

Common estimates based on the amount of water tied up in continental ice sheets during the last ice age put the Sea Level during the Ice Age at some 300 ft. lower.

If you think about human settlement patterns, that would put the largest trade hubs and cities of the time out on the Continental Shelf, provided such existed.

The climate change and rise in sea level (what the AGW people are so terrified of now, even if it isn't happening) would be rough on a civilization, but not insurmountable if the civilization recognized what was happening and moved inland.

Of course, conflict over real estate would ensue, just as it has at any time one group of people invaded another, and much as it might today if, say, the populations of the East and West Coast cities were to attempt to move inland to elevations higher by 300 ft. or more. That would be the biggest impediment to the survival of a culture based on oceanfront property. Loss of coastal plains croplands would likely have an adverse effect on population as well.

66 posted on 04/18/2011 10:59:53 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The folks who live on the planet which Mars orbited as moon before that planet exploded were probably the builders ... eh?


67 posted on 04/18/2011 11:03:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Beowulf9
It's Kenny ...


68 posted on 04/18/2011 11:07:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: muawiyah; SunkenCiv; blam; All

The Mayans also gave great importance to Venus with a calendar devoted especially to is revolution around the sun. I think 260 days. If I recall correctly, this was run concurrently with the solar calendar, with special ceremonies whenever they started on the same day. I think it was about every 50 years. I believe the Jewish Jubilee is also every 50 years. Perhaps they noticed the same phenomenon, or else borrowed it from earlier civilizations.


69 posted on 04/19/2011 12:58:18 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: stockpirate

Youtube...what don’t they know?

Even Older...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxv66CXx4tQ&feature=related


70 posted on 04/19/2011 4:08:51 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: shield
You're off the calendar. The Ice Age, per se, ended 12,000 BC, and it wasn't until 13,000 years ago (or 11,000 BC) that the comet hit.

Alas, all it did was bust up the residual ice sheet in Canada and that flooded the St. Lawrence (and its extended estuary) with ice, and that changed the climate briefly in the Northern part of the Northern hemisphere.

Southern Temperate latitudes, subtropical and tropical areas, as well as everything in the Southern hemisphere weren't bothered at all.

Egypt was "NOTHING" until the Sahara dried up. At that time folks moved closer to the river bringing with them their already existing civilized skills, but that's all many thousands of years later than the statues and carvings we are looking at in this article were created.

One of the major cyclical deals archaeologists have been watching for now is the appearance and disappearance of the Sahara on a regular basis. Just about every 100,000 years the axis tilts just so and the Atlantic monsoons are pulled in and the Sahara flourishes. Then, the axis slowly tilts back, and the Sahara dries up. The Potsdam Institute has studied the matter extensively and says the Sahara pluvial lasts about 5,000 years at a time. They believe this answers the question regarding how the predecessors to the Neanderthals got to Europe 400,000 years ago ~ and, that answer is "they swam" or "drifted on vegetative mats" at the narrow points. Some of us would like for them to say "boats" but if "they" can get those folks across the Mediterranean on rafts, and it works, that's OK I suppose. I was hoping for early "Evinrude" technology.

71 posted on 04/19/2011 7:27:05 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: stockpirate

Bookmark for later


72 posted on 04/19/2011 7:32:52 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: little jeremiah
I’m not so sure about that. I’ve seen quite a few videos of underwater structures which are solid, all in place, no earthquake damage, all 150 to 200 feet (roughly, IIRC) underwater.

I didn't communicate my thoughts very well.

Water, due to the force of gravity, always seeks the LOWEST POINT. The surface of the ocean , on a global scale, is smooth and flat. The land, is not, and is subject to constant CHANGE.

There are continents where the 'sea level' is rising on one coast, while lowering on the other.

Imagine laying out a large plastic dropcloth, leaving lots of 'lumps' in it. Then poor water around on it.

Now, pull on the edges of the dropcloth.

Is the water rising/falling, or is it the 'ground' moving that causes the APPARENT change in sea level?

underwater structures which are solid, all in place, no earthquake damage

Some 'change' is fast and catastrophic, some is very slow and actually preserves artificially built structures.

73 posted on 04/19/2011 7:45:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

There are also naturally occuring underwater structures that have carvings on them. That’s because somebody got around to whack away at them when the ocean level was lower. Anyone who gets stuck on the offshore “structure” in Souvrn’ Japan should take a good look at the Giants’ Causeway in Great Britain: http://www.google.com/search?q=giants+causeway&hl=en&prmd=ivnsm&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=FqKtTbeCEKjg0gGD-NWhCw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1333&bih=690


74 posted on 04/19/2011 8:04:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Smokin' Joe

The AGW crowd imagine that most modern humans would stand in one place and allow the ocean to rise up around them.


75 posted on 04/19/2011 8:09:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

There are fossils of sea creatures contained in rock on top of the highest mountain in the world.


76 posted on 04/19/2011 8:18:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

That’ll happen every time you toss India against Asia too!


77 posted on 04/19/2011 8:24:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mcshot

A motivated intelligent man can do great things with what little is around.

Humans some 12000 years ago weren’t as stupid as we like to think. The technology might not have been there, but if you’ve got a good brain and a good rock you can do a lot.

Heck, a year ago we didn’t even have iPads. How did _we_ survive? Huh?


78 posted on 04/19/2011 8:29:40 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’ve seen the whole series, some of them several times.


79 posted on 04/19/2011 8:34:44 AM PDT by stockpirate (Sarah, the time is NOW!. .....................Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: stockpirate
So, "Ech bin eine Paliner" means that Sarah is a large raspberry filled jelly roll and you want to..........

Hmm.

Does Todd know that?

80 posted on 04/19/2011 8:45:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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