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With Sarah out, which conservative candidate has the best shot of knocking out Romney and Obama?
vanity poll | Oct 5, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 10/05/2011 5:06:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

My personal favorites are:

1) Bachmann

2) Cain

3) perry

Cannot get excited about Gingrich or Santorum.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; cainvsunable; conservatives; elections; hermancain; hermanthemagnificent; obama; obama4romney; palin; palin2012; perry; romney; romney4dnc; sarah; sarahpalin
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To: erlayman

The so called groups marching on wall street are funded by Soros via DNC. It is good that Cain insults the DNC posers.


221 posted on 10/05/2011 6:22:37 PM PDT by postt
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To: Jim Robinson

I think we need to put all Perry’s positives and negatives on the scale.

Positives:

Pro-life

Pro-gun/2nd Amendment

Pro-Small government

Anti-Tax

Anti-regulation

a “global warming skeptic” — suing the EPA, realizing it’s a job-killer

He has a record of low taxes, low regulation, pro-private enterprise and job creation

Pro-secure border: asked for Naional Guard troops for the border, spent Texas money to secure the border, because the Federal government wouldn’t do it, wants “boots on the ground” to secure the border — for the terrain and river fence is not the best solution, his ideas are better for Texas, he DOES want to secure the border

Excellent fund raising ability (needed to beat Romney and Obama)

Palin endorsed him and campaigned for him for his reelection campaign and called him “a true conservative”

He can talk without a teleprompter and his speeches are just fine

Negatives:

After Texas Legislature passed law to give in-state tuition to children of illegal immigrants, with only four votes against him, he didn’t veto the measure, “to make a statement”, when his veto would have been easily overridden.

Foot-in-mouth in the debate — let he/she who never said something they regretted throw the first stone, especially after hours of everyone ganging up on him over one or two issues

Are Perry’s negatives so bad that we should rather have Romney walk away with the nomination and then be beaten by Obama? THIS is the real question. Let us take a step back and consider the above.


222 posted on 10/05/2011 6:22:37 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Jim Robinson
1.) Cain

2.) Michelle.

223 posted on 10/05/2011 6:23:44 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cain > Bachmann > Perry

Will not vote for Mittens or nut job Paul.


224 posted on 10/05/2011 6:24:29 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: rintense

I agree.............
The more I hear Cain the more I like him..............


225 posted on 10/05/2011 6:24:57 PM PDT by eleb
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To: IrishPennant

(if zero's wife can take her kids to another country and list them as senior advisers on tax payer dime and have their grandmother live in the White House, surely the Palin grandparents could also live in the White House to look after Piper and Trig. We will draw the line that Piper and Trig can't be listed as Senior Advisors. But yes, let Mr and Mrs Heath live in the White House like zero's mother in law which is not a problem for most Americans.)

226 posted on 10/05/2011 6:25:20 PM PDT by postt
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To: Meet the New Boss

The issue needs to be Defined for CERTAIN.


227 posted on 10/05/2011 6:25:20 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jim Robinson

No one, Jim. I’m sick. There is absolutely zero chance that Cain can overcome Romney’s riches. Sorry, Bob


228 posted on 10/05/2011 6:25:26 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("And your oarsman stands with his knife in hand, and his eyes spell 'Mutiny'" Al Stewart)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cain or Perry. Bachmann hasn’t a chance, she’s damaged goods (self-inflicted at that).


229 posted on 10/05/2011 6:26:06 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: mnehring
A little late to draft anyone else. There are only a few weeks before the filing deadlines start to hit- not enough time to really build an organization.

Ronald Reagan announced in NOVEMBER, 1979. There's at least another 45 days before the field is fixed.

230 posted on 10/05/2011 6:26:26 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Unless someone else is entering the race that I'm not aware of, I would vote for Perry in the primary.

I think Romney is going to get the nomination though.
231 posted on 10/05/2011 6:28:08 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: postt

Thanks for the ping/pic/post. Sarah would have been my choice, also. I respect her decision...and yes, I’m a little disappointed.


232 posted on 10/05/2011 6:29:51 PM PDT by PGalt
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Well with Palin out it is time to focus on the best conservative candidate.

I like Bachmann on the issues BUT, she can’t articulate the issues in a positive optimistic way. That is a big issue for me.

Reagan and Palin exuded OPTIMISM, that is a key especially for a conservative, since the MSM will be putting them in a negative light.

Cain talks about America and his plans in a way that can inspire. I know he doesn’t have experience as a political executive, if you want to alter the system that can be a good thing, he won’t be tied to think totally inside the box as Perry might. Cain has analytic abilities as a result of his background that could be invaluable.

So Cain is it for me now. He will beat Obama I don’t think Bachmann can SELL a positive conservative vision. That is the bummer about Sarah not running she is right on the issues and communicate that vision in a positive and optimistic way.


233 posted on 10/05/2011 6:30:33 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Jim Robinson

Cain.

Rick Perry looks like Bush III to me. Makes my stomach turn.


234 posted on 10/05/2011 6:30:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Clairity

Don’t forget pro-10th. He’s the strongest I’ve ever heard speak for the states rights and against too much Federalism.


235 posted on 10/05/2011 6:30:37 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cain, by all means. and Sarah Palin for Secretary of Interior. :o)


236 posted on 10/05/2011 6:31:12 PM PDT by redhead (Don't START with me...you know how I get.)
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To: usconservative

The filing deadlines have moved forward by months since Reagan announced. It isn’t about how far before November 2012 you announce, it is if you file papers early enough to be on the first state’s ballots. Now, if a candidate doesn’t file by the end of October, they won’t be on South Carolina or New Hampshire’s ballots for the primary.


237 posted on 10/05/2011 6:31:19 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: goodnesswins
maybe Jobs Czar

Jobs Czar? Are you serious? NO MORE CZARS!

238 posted on 10/05/2011 6:32:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Jim Robinson
Perry... long shot.
Cain... longer shot.
Bachmann... longest shot.

Romney is the establishment candidate and has the money, organization and front runner status to start his march towards a primary victory. The time frame is short. Willard has gained the upper-hand. I find his new found acceptability and viability downright scary. FReepers should not be passing on any conservative to beat Romney.

239 posted on 10/05/2011 6:32:30 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Clairity

I will vote for Perry if he’s the last man standing against Romney. But that would mean the more conservative Bachmann and Cain have both given up the ghost.


240 posted on 10/05/2011 6:33:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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