Posted on 11/03/2013 1:42:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
....she was a little nervous when her son told her he wanted to major in music in college.
She knew that was his passion. But as a mom, she was hoping hed pick something a little more practical.
That may explain why Hardy, a professor of classics at Carleton College, is so sympathetic to a new program designed to help her own students find a career that pays the bills.
This fall, Carleton launched an interactive website, called Pathways,as a one-stop shop for those who wonder how to turn a history or philosophy degree into a meaningful career.
At the same time, its asking professors who teach subjects from French to womens studies to Shakespeare to take on a new role:advising students to start career planning as soon as they arrive on campus.
When I got here 20 years ago, I know I would have found it almost offensive, Hardy said. But theres been a culture shift.
At todays prices, even elite schools like Carleton, in Northfield,are feeling the pressure to justify the value of a liberal arts education. [Its]a hot-button issue, said...associate dean and a professor of religious studies. Especially among parents.
Theyre spending all this money on a college education; they want their students to have something marketable when they finish,he said.
Paths to Life after Carleton
Carleton, one of the most selective liberal arts colleges in the country, has no shortage of customers. In the past year,it had 14 applicants for every spot in its current freshman class of 527. Its also the priciest college in Minnesota,at $58,000 a year for tuition, room and board.
.......The centerpiece of the site is the career path visualization,an interactive chart that shows where grads from individual majors ended up. Click on history majors,for example, and it shows them spread across the professions,from business,law and education to museum curators and actors....
(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...
Worth a full read to appreciate the scope of pretzel twisting being employed by administrators to justify costs to parents.
Carleton College Academics -- The courses and majors show a never-ending "proper thinking" LIBERAL creation factory.
Given their parents can afford $58K a year for tuition, I seriously doubt finding a job is a priority for many of these students. If their minds are property marinated in LIBERAL "thought," they will easily fit in with fellow travelers Al Gore-Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton and that crowd.
..you can lie for Odungo
58k for a thorough brain washing? Parents are really paying for their kida to basically teach themselves with no marketable living and working skills.
You can use it to line the cage of your parakeet.
Dad throws $200,000 toward a degree, and another $60,000 in incidental costs over four years. At the end....what does Johnny Junior or daughter Wanda do for the money spent?
A decade ago, they got into a foundation for a year....clearing $70,000 a year and then dad’s connection got them into a Fortune 500 company at $90,000 a year. The Fortune 500 company basically worked this angle of liberal arts-welfare. They’d load up a thousand gifted liberal arts degree onto the payroll and just grin as profits came in.
2008 came, and reality sat in. Purge the liberal arts freaks and prepare for a long ‘winter’.
The liberal arts freaks are sitting there now....pulling in $70,000 at some government agency and hoping that this isn’t their permanent job in life. The problem is that they got the jobs early on, and there’s mostly nothing left at either the government or the Fortune 500 companies.
Would Wal-Mart hire them? No. How about Barnes and Noble? Full already. The local TV channel new team? If they’d accept a salary of $35,000 a year? Yes, but that’s just not acceptable.
So dad is asking stupid questions at the admissions office, and tasking them to show where these beefy jobs will be found. Fake enthusiasm is all they have right now, with a grin, and a promise that’s mostly empty.
My advice....a $10,000 a year community college degree in nursing would be a better investment than the $45,000 year liberal arts degree. In five years, we will have hundreds of thousands of dimwits with costly but worthless degrees and no free ride. Then what?
Start laying off professors?
What can you do? Can you look in the mirror?
That passage by itself indicates that there is little reality in the tool provided.
Liberal arts degree qualifies one to be one of these exciting professionals: hooker, escort service, porn star, used car sales rep, manure merchant, Starbucks Barista, zombie, burger joint grill commander, battle xylophone player, yak urine sample collector, medical study volunteer, professional rent a protester, telemarketer, or modern politician as no brains are apparently required to get the position either.
The problem in the US is that we're over-extended financially, and we've given power to corrupt-o-crats.
I would say that the tradition of a well-rounded education would make these students excellent prospective hires. But is that what these colleges are producing? In a lot of cases, I would say no.
In general, a degree in Math, Engineering, or the sciences will be of more value. We have a shortage of American born students in those areas.
While taking my Masters in Computer Science, I was typically the only native English speaker in any of my classes.
Some studies are for their intrinsic value. They have little or no market value. You usually need LSD to “visualize “ a high- paying career from a degree in Chaucer or Eskimo Studies. And some degrees have zero value intrinsically as we’ll as Practically. Such as “ kumminity servuce” whatever the hell that may be.
The LEFT turned a liberal arts education into an anti-Western, communist indoctrination. So, unless you are a “community organizer” hellbent on the destruction of capitalism, where real money is made, life for you sucks.
Imagine you have no money, no job and at the same time, you think Shakespeare is just an old, racist, selfish, white man? A lifetime of stupidity can really be a drag.
My son graduated High School and came to me and said he wanted to go to College and study Music.
His best friend was going and that was what he was studying.
I could see he wanted to go and play so I asked him if he intended to be a music teacher in high school. The answer was no, and I refused to pay for a waste of time. He did not go to college, but he found a job and he is doing well.
His friend graduated and ended up driving a dump truck, then he married well and lived off his wifes money. All of us cannot be that lucky.
Liberal arts...........progressive, socialist, facist, communist, manifesto training coarses. The future politicians
Hillsdale College is a liberal arts school and anything but liberal.
A classical liberal arts education is worth its weight in gold, but it’s not job training. It’s life training.
My #2 son, the National Merit Scholar, is being recruited by Hillsdale. However, he’s just not all that thrilled at the idea of Michigan.
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