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EgyptAir Flight Data Shows Smoke Detected in Bathroom Before Crash: Report
NBC News ^ | May 19, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 05/20/2016 2:03:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Data transmitted from a doomed EgyptAir flight minutes before it fell off radar screens suggests a fire had broken out on board the plane, according to an aviation industry website.

AvHerald.com is reporting that data transmissions from EgyptAir Flight 804 to ground stations show smoke was detected in a bathroom near the cockpit.

The report includes the plane-to-ground messages sent in the final minutes of the flight:

00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE

00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE

00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR

00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT

00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT

The information would suggest the possibility of smoke or a fire in close proximity to the electronics and equipment bay of the Airbus below the floor of the cockpit

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: a320; airbus; airbusa320; alexandria; crete; egypt; egyptair; egyptair804; europeanunion; flight804; france; greece; jihad; ms804; msr804; nato; waronterror
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To: Timpanagos1

It is not “easy and cheap” when you have to ground entire fleets waiting for problem discovery/solution. Ask Boeing how much fun they had with the 787.


101 posted on 05/20/2016 6:23:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OMorgair (Latin form: Malachy)northeast hiy)
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To: jacquej

I wonder if the long, inexplicable delay in finding the crash site was not the start of a cover up. They should have - and maybe did - find it within a hour of first light. Then, they got all the evidence and black boxes - this took about a day. Then, they announced they had finally found it.

This is speculation on my part. But it does fit the time line.


102 posted on 05/20/2016 6:51:12 PM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Rockpile

Thank you. Situation I was referencing was chafing in a fuel tank (causing an in-flight explosion) of a B-707 type, not just loss of flight controls.


103 posted on 05/21/2016 6:16:23 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: old curmudgeon

“The MAYDAY MAYDAY thing is the stuff of movies. “

Indeed. All ATC can do for you is send a post-card to your wife. . .does just as much good.

“Those of us who have flown a lot of hours are amazed at how calm crew members driving big iron sound in declaring an emergency.”

Lot of hours. . .how many and type? I’ve had my share of IFE’s in the A-10 and the F-15E, no biggee, that is why we practice and know the systems. Besides, gotta sound calm on the radios because you want your last worlds to sound cool, not panicky like a little girl.


104 posted on 05/21/2016 6:22:08 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Timpanagos1

“If it was a mechanical problem, that problem can be fixed on other Airbus products.”

Provided enough wreckage remains to determine without a doubt what caused it.


105 posted on 05/21/2016 6:23:32 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Also, this COULD HAVE been a low yield explosive that tore a hole in the side of the aircraft which would give enough time for an error code to be transmitted.

Sure, a pressure-triggered bomb in the baggage compartment. Automatically armed at cruising altitude, detonated by rising pressure when they started descending into Cairo.

106 posted on 05/21/2016 6:26:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Hulka

Min were not nearly as exciting as yours.

10,000 hours business aviation, light twin,.

Retired quite a few years ago.


107 posted on 05/21/2016 6:36:21 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Where there are muzz’s there is death.


108 posted on 05/21/2016 8:35:48 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Agreed. Conveniently for the terrorists the aircraft went down in the worst place possible for finding the aircraft of all the possible locations along the entire flight path. THIS IS NO COINCIDENCE.

This is a HUGE clue that this was a calculated take down of the aircraft.

109 posted on 05/21/2016 10:44:45 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: Hulka

.......or even a vapor elec cig. They have been exploding.


110 posted on 05/21/2016 11:06:48 AM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It wastes time.)
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To: BlackVeil

The waters there is 10,000 feet deep. Even if they did find where it crashed, it would be impossible to find the black boxes that quickly.

Sounds a bit like conspiracy theory.


111 posted on 05/21/2016 11:13:31 AM PDT by Snark
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To: HandyDandy

Now that is true. . .and another possibility. . .


112 posted on 05/21/2016 11:38:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Snark

They have announced, now, that they have found the flight recorders. That is within 24 hours of locating the crash site - according to the official story. But I do have doubts about this story.


113 posted on 05/22/2016 5:21:57 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

smoke does not mean fire

an electronic short will generate copious smoke and no fire


114 posted on 05/22/2016 5:25:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If this is not terrorism I want an official at AirBus to tell the world in a press conference that their planes can spontaneously burst into flames at FL30+ and crash into the sea.

A "design" feature?

115 posted on 05/22/2016 5:34:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: old curmudgeon
If I had to wager on this one, I would bet that two of the cockpit windows were blown out because of a bomb, hence the alerts before the aircraft went down. The cabin briefly filled with smoke BUT MOSTLY FOG due to rapid depressurization and visibility for the surviving pilot was next to ZERO.

Lack of claim of responsibility could be due to this being a 'lone wolf' bomb maker* OR there's more aircraft take-downs afoot. *

SUICIDE BOMBER IN THE BATHROOM?

116 posted on 05/22/2016 9:36:57 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

In Feb 2016, a laptop bomb was smuggled aboard an Airbus A320 in Somalia. A passenger set it off, blowing a hole in the side of the plane that sucked them out. Despite the damage, the plane managed to land.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/africa/somalia-airplane-explosion/

The Egyptian A320 was in Eritrea (near Somalia) the morning of the crash. Maybe the pilot picked up a laptop bomb and carried it aboard. They don’t check pilots that thoroughly.

Sensors on the Egyptian A320 showed smoke and things failing in the cockpit and nearby restroom. A suicidal pilot could have brought a bomb on board.


117 posted on 05/22/2016 9:38:26 AM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: old curmudgeon

No way was this a mechanical malfunction. If you study the flight path of this aircraft it went down in the worst possible place for finding the fuselage (open ocean and the ONLY place along the entire flight path where the ocean was the deepest). This is NO coincidence and defies statistical probability for it being a mere malfunction.


118 posted on 05/22/2016 9:41:30 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: r_barton
00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW
00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR
00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE
00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE
00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR
00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT
00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT
no further ACARS messages were received

The more I think about it, I'll also conclude a 'suicidal' pilot did it, more specifically the PILOT SITTING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE COCKPIT (Which Mohammed was that?) We all know he REALLY did it for Allah, though. The media can't wait to call it "SUICIDE" and bash Trump for blaming terrorism.

119 posted on 05/22/2016 10:00:46 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
24 year old Co-Pilot Mohamed Ahmed Mamdouh was seated on the right side of the cockpit? Did someone place a bomb in the area he sat, or did HE bring the bomb aboard? Stay tuned.

Mark it!

120 posted on 05/22/2016 10:05:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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