Skip to comments.What Is The Best 12 Gauge Shotgun Load for Home Defense?
Posted on 11/05/2001 5:07:23 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
I would like opinions on the best shotgun shell load for use in a 12 Gauge Shotgun when being used for home defense. I have heard of using bird shot, buck shot and slugs - standard or magnum loads. I have heard of progressive loading such as first round-bird shot, second round-buckshot, third round-slugs.
Considerations seem to include whether you want to blow the door or wall down in the process of stopping the intruder.
The cheap little fiber optic sights are pretty good, too.
That is the correct series of loads. Also, practice shooting from the hip. Recoil becomes not a problem, and you have a couple more feet to swing around. Push the muzzle down and away to compensate for line of aim. This is most important if it is dark.
You need a pump...nothing like the sound of a pump jacking a shell into the chamber in the dark! :-)
Lemme guess - you signed up today and bumped an old home defense thread with a call to use an illegal weapon in order to salt FR with some posts to use against it later.
I have a couple of old Winchester Model 12's. They make a sound when loading that will most certainly loosen the bowels of any intruder.
You figure anything you shoot in your house is probably going to be within 15 feet so in my opinion it doesn't really matter what shot size you use. Once you pull the trigger, your next major concern is how to clean up the mess......
My Winchester Defender does a pretty good job as well.;
A cinder block just sitting there will react VERY differently than a cinder block holding up a house. The former will disintegrate rapidly in a delightful manner; the latter will just go "ow, stop that".
Probably makes no difference. If you inside your home any load of shot will do the trick since it will be at very close range. A slug is probably not a good idea since you are more likely to miss.
Wow, you all have reached way back...some threads never die and only get better with age...Thanks for the reply.
At close range, you are not more likely to miss with a slug; shot does not spread appreciably within normal indoor distances.
Actually started up by the pulled post before lugsoul, by a banned troll.
I think that removed post (156?) revived it. I saw it in the forum, click and posted before I realized I had posted on the same thread many months ago.
Obviously, rounds intended for serious "social work".
Some twerp who signed up today resurrected this thread by posting that his weapon of choice would be a sawed-off shotgun and he would just blow someone's face away with it. He probably wanted to slip a post into FR that he could use later as evidence of our conservative gun-nut derangement. However, his MO is pretty obvious by now.
My fav: #2 steel. A bit much indoors and sort ranges but also great for longer shots and outdoors.
Thanks to all for the replies. My question to start this thread was in 2001.
Some good, some not so good advise. Any quality pump shotgun will do, preferrably 12 gauge. Thirty inches of piano wire with crimped on split shot fishing sinkers is devistating if you load your own. If you don't hand load, use light target loads to protect from over penitration. If the wound doesn't kill the surgery to remove 720 pellits will.
Slugs and buckshot can be lethal to your neighbors. Don't use them for home defense.
Can you say CHEESE PLEASE ????
I knew a guy who took a good half of a guy's face off with birdshot and left part of it on the wall. The slimey creep still managed to get outside and collapse in a neighbors front yard. He died later. This guy was a real piece of work. He would sneak into a house, sometimes repeatedly, and open up a bunch of escape routes. He would then molest females of any age in the house. After his third or fourth visit my acquaintance waited up for him. Anyone from Bucks County PA might remember this creep. He was active in the very early 70s.
Great. Just noticed this was a 100 year old thread.
AKA Hooch or Hut Busters. Candy Cane loads were layers of dimes and carpet tacks...due to wet conditions, we sealed the crimp with nail polish. The Ithaca 37 with a duckbill muzzle attachment and pistol grip would only work with NAV issued #4 buck and useless as t*ts on a bull past 6-7 yards depending on vegetation.
Bird shot.....point in general direction of soon to be dead person and squeeze trigger
I've got one with a Knoxx, Spec Ops double recoil reducing action that takes all the kick out of it... Holds 8 +1 rounds, to boot....
I've got that, except mine is not OD/parked....
Within the first 5 to 10 yards it really doesn't matter, so I use birdshot. Also I strongly suggest people go to a range to see how small the pattern is at that range.
Also for those who talk about "sweeping" a house with short barrels etc IMHO you are morons. If you go after a perp in YOUR house you are asking for trouble. If it comes to it I wait in a room behind a closed door with my family behind me. You know your house, and will likely be able to hear them coming. Screw the "rack" sound - the first thing a perp is going to hear is an explosion as soon as they try the door.
A Remington 870 pump with double-ought buckshot is what I have.
"At the likely ranges inside a house, it has the same punch as lead or steel bird or buck. At longer ranges it won't kill, but the perp will never, ever forget you shot him, either."
Leave him alive so he can sue you? I don't think so.
"That would be nice if you wanna piss me off if you wanna stop me you better get a barrel of deer slugs"
If you get shot from ten feet with No. 6 shot you're not going anywhere. It will tear you up really badly and the hydrostatic shock is going to out you down.
Well...what did you end up going with?
Iside my home the intruder dies. I fire repeadedly until no discernable movement is detected, I check the perp for lifesigns. If any are found I fire once more at close range. Then I call authorities if that has not already occured. Be a real shame to shoot twice , pick up the phone and have one of my family take a finale blow from a dying scumbag.
If your not sure what a 12 gauge will do at the distance you might use it at , do some testing for yourself.
Up close any bb shot acts like a slug (pretty much), just keep in mind whats behind the wall or door ,a slug will go through many walls, small shot ...1 maybe 2 walls. Too many variables, do some testing
#6 to 8 shot should be good for most....imo
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