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Hijacker Crashed Flight 93 on 9/11
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 8/7/03 | TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 4:22:34 PM PDT by dead

WASHINGTON - U.S. investigators now believe that a hijacker in the cockpit aboard United Airlines Flight 93 instructed terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah to crash the jetliner into a Pennsylvania field because of a passenger uprising in the cabin.

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

The government's findings — laid out deep within the report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that was sent to Congress last month — aim to resolve one of the enduring mysteries of the deadliest terror attacks in U.S. history: What happened in the final minutes aboard Flight 93?

The FBI strenuously maintains that its analysis does not diminish the heroism of passengers who — with the words "Let's roll" — apparently rushed down the airliner's narrow aisle to try to overtake the hijackers.

President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft have regularly praised the courage of those aboard Flight 93, some of whom told family members by telephone they were planning to storm the cockpit.

"While no one will ever know exactly what transpired in the final minutes of Flight 93, every shred of evidence indicates this plane crashed because of the heroic actions of the passengers," FBI spokeswoman Susan Whitson said Thursday.

Thirty-three passengers, seven crew members and the four hijackers died.

Citing transcripts of the still-secret cockpit recordings, FBI Director Robert Mueller told congressional investigators in a closed briefing last year that, minutes before Flight 93 hit the ground, one of the hijackers "advised Jarrah to crash the plane and end the passengers' attempt to retake the airplane."

Jarrah is thought to have been the terrorist-pilot because he was the only of the four hijackers aboard known to have a pilot's license.

Mueller's description was disclosed in a brief passage far into the 858-page report to Congress. Previous statements by FBI and other government officials have been ambiguous about what occurred in the cockpit.

Mueller's explanation was based on the FBI's efforts to decipher the cacophonous sounds on the cockpit recorder and produce a comprehensive transcript, said one official, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The FBI is convinced it may never know for certain what transpired in those final moments, but Mueller represented the information as the FBI's leading theory, this official said.

The same cockpit recording was played privately in April 2002 for family members of victims aboard Flight 93, and the FBI also provided them with its best effort at producing an understandable transcript.

Some family members indicated afterward they were led to believe that passengers used a food cart as a shield and successfully broke into the cockpit.

The FBI has been loath to publicly put forward a contradictory theory out of sensitivity to the families and because of uncertainty about what happened.

People who have heard the recording describe it as nearly indecipherable, containing static noises, cockpit alarms and wind interspersed with cries in English and Arabic. Near the end of the tape, sounds can be heard of breaking glass and crashing dishes — lending credence to the theory that passengers used the food cart to rush the jetliner's narrow aisle.

Separately, the data recorder showed the plane's wings rocking violently as the jet flew too low and too fast for safe flight.

Intelligence officials believe the likely target for Flight 93 was the White House, based on information from Abu Zubaydah, a senior al-Qaida terrorist leader in U.S. custody who is believed to have played a key role in organizing the Sept. 11 attacks.

Prosecutors have sought a U.S. judge's permission to play recordings from Flight 93 during the terrorism trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only defendant in a U.S. case prosecutors have directly tied to the attacks. Moussaoui is accused of conspiring with the hijackers.

The government has said it can link Moussaoui to Jarrah, using a telephone number found on a business card recovered at the Shanksville, Pa., crash site. Prosecutors believe the card belonged to Jarrah and that Moussaoui had called the same number.

Moussaoui has acknowledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida but says he was not involved in the attacks.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911report; americanheroes; blessthemall; fbi; flight93; godblessthem; heroes; jarrah; letsroll; moussaoui; robertmueller; targets; whitehouse
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To: dead
Basically the same thing.
141 posted on 08/07/2003 6:10:29 PM PDT by kk22tt
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To: montag813
It's true the AP are scumbags. But covering up the truth gives them ammo.
142 posted on 08/07/2003 6:11:49 PM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
b) The hijackers might have had a small bomb.

The hijackers probably said they had a bomb to discourage a passenger revolt.

143 posted on 08/07/2003 6:13:18 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: Pukka Puck
Actually a bomb or shoot-down are absolutely neccessary to explain the way the debris was distributed.
144 posted on 08/07/2003 6:13:22 PM PDT by eno_
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To: TomB
But you never told us what that "other reason" might be.

Poor flying skills on the part of the hijacker who was flying the aircraft.

There's been lots of speculation about whether the plane was shot down, but I'm quite certain that was not the case.

145 posted on 08/07/2003 6:13:52 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: sarasmom
God bless you for having the best post of the thread and one of the best posts since 9/11 on this subject.

HOW the plane went down is not particularly relevant. WHY it went down -- directly from the actions of the passengers -- is the only thing that matters now.

"Let's roll" will resonate with Americans for generations to come.
146 posted on 08/07/2003 6:14:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Silas
Hey idiot did you know that the initial news reports (prior to the spin control and hero making) stated that US military planes shot down Flight 93?

No they didn't.

147 posted on 08/07/2003 6:15:36 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I've got brown sandwiches, and green sandwiches." Oscar Madison in THE ODD COUPLE.)
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To: Alberta's Child
That plane crashed with an Islamic hijacker at the wheel. It did not crash with a gang of passengers pouring into the cockpit. It did not crash with Wesley Snipes throwing a hijacker out the door. It did not crash as a result of a passenger named MacGyver making a hand grenade out of his airline meal utensils and throwing it in the cockpit

But it did crash with passengers moving forward and one flight attendant boiling water to throw on the hijackers. I always wonder if she was able to pull that off...but the intent was there at the very least.

148 posted on 08/07/2003 6:16:43 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: speedy
I found this information:

tbridis@ap.org
Ted Bridis, staff writer
The Associated Press
2021 K St., NW, Suite 600
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 776-9462, voice
(202) 776-9570, fax
(202) 437-4640, cell
149 posted on 08/07/2003 6:16:49 PM PDT by calvin sun ("Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL")
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To: Silas
Nutcase, you are relying on second hand reports from the tabloid Daily Mirror. Even in this bit of fluff the witness watched the plane in its intact form fly into the ground. It does not report the plane falling in many pieces from the sky. This report makes it seem as if a strange, aircraft matching no type of airplane in our military inventory caused the plane to crash by following it.

What a silly little conspiracy theorist you are.
150 posted on 08/07/2003 6:17:14 PM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: mikegi
AQ previously experimented with improvised explosives, like peroxide-acetone bombs and killed a Japanese passenger on an airliner over the Pacific with such a a bomb.

Then we caught the shoe bomber.

In this case, a bomb would have ejected debris far from the main crash site, which is what incontrovertably happened here. So a bomb is one way to explain what happened. A shoot-down would also explain it.

But there is no possible way that just flying the plane into the ground would have resulted in small debris, including human remains, miles from the main crash site.
151 posted on 08/07/2003 6:17:33 PM PDT by eno_
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To: Alberta's Child
Poor flying skills on the part of the hijacker who was flying the aircraft.

So it was all a coincidence? "Let's roll" and then the pilot loses control all within a couple minutes?

I'd believe the shoot-down before I believe that.

152 posted on 08/07/2003 6:18:24 PM PDT by TomB
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To: eno_
Actually a bomb or shoot-down are absolutely neccessary to explain the way the debris was distributed.

Debris was not distributed; it was concentrated in one place.

153 posted on 08/07/2003 6:19:26 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I've got brown sandwiches, and green sandwiches." Oscar Madison in THE ODD COUPLE.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
The thing you are missing is that some people are not able to understand what they read.

I agree. Witness the post (#138) which follows yours.

Regards,
LH

154 posted on 08/07/2003 6:19:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sinkspur
I cited what appears to be a well-researched major newspaper report that includes eyewitness and official accounts of debris, including body parts, miles from the crash site.

Got anything that refutes that?
155 posted on 08/07/2003 6:21:36 PM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
But there is no possible way that just flying the plane into the ground would have resulted in small debris, including human remains, miles from the main crash site.

There were no human remains found, miles from the crash site.

There were few human remains found at the crash site.

Where are you getting this stuff? Conspiracynuts.com?

156 posted on 08/07/2003 6:22:17 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I've got brown sandwiches, and green sandwiches." Oscar Madison in THE ODD COUPLE.)
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To: eno_
Even in your article it says:

In response to a question on recurring rumors that the plane might have been shot down, Crowley said that at this stage of the investigation, no possibility was being ruled out. He stressed, however, that no evidence had surfaced to support that theory.

And of course, it never did.

157 posted on 08/07/2003 6:22:32 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Pukka Puck
There is a difference between a bomb and something that looks like a bomb.

Are you implying Islamic terrorists do not know how to make strap-on bombs? This is by far their favorite way to kill people.

On 9-11 there was no way to prevent someone from bringing a bomb onto a plane.

158 posted on 08/07/2003 6:22:51 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Silas
Why don't you do a google search or better yet a FR search. Have you even heard of WND ? Here is a link: Do your homework before you even think about posting here again.

My aren't we full of ourselves!

Jeesh.

159 posted on 08/07/2003 6:23:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (And whither then? I cannot say)
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To: Alberta's Child
I've known for a long time that the passengers did not seize control of the plane, or even make it into the cockpit.

Mr. Insider, eh?

160 posted on 08/07/2003 6:23:40 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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