Why I Am Still an Evangelical Protestant [And Not Roman Catholic]

Chris Castaldo ^ | March 15th, 2013 | Chris Castaldo

[caww]

..”Claiming that we need to “pay for our sins in purgatory” is denying Christ”....

True, yet I think it's an easy way out for people to avoid dealing with the fact of their sins here and now...and most want just that..an escape.

If you believe in a make-believe place where others will be praying for you to get to heaven, that in itself bypasses the Cross entirely, and makes his death for their sins noneffective..... because it takes it away from individual responsibility before God to that of those praying for you as your ticket out. None of which are worthy to release or forgive your sins.

Jesus Crucifixion, Death and Resurrection is complete 'in full' and covers 'all' our sins, or it covers nothing at all. So just who do Catholics think bore their sins for them? Their church, priests, nor any among them can do that, they are sinners, every one just like the rest of humanity.. They themselves can do nothing to change God's equation that all have fallen short...that our righteous acts are not enough to "gain" anything pertaining to Salvation of our very soul. That was "given" to Christ Jesus FOR us. Just seems to me that many are still carrying their own sins and perhaps in denial it is so.

[Former Fetus]

Reference?

[caww]

Amen!

[Gamecock]

***Sin is just missing the mark in God’s Plan.***

Sin is open rebellion to God’s law. It is flipping God off.

[Salvation]

The Catholic Church gave you the New Testament. Perhaps you need to give credit where credit is due instead of posting stuff that is not true.

Where do you get these falsehoods, anyway? A pamphlet? A preacher who hates Catholics? Please educate yourself.

[xone]

Luke 16:19-31.

Some Bibles show the Lord's words in red. It is a reference to the propensity of some to 'rate' scripture as if it isn't all given by God. Read the thread, to some the OT don't cut it.

[Salvation]

We are paying for the reparation that WE did not do on earth. Like saying “I’m sorry” to someone we had hurt. Or not forgiving someone who hurt us.

[Salvation]

Is that belief only because you do not have the complete Bible? LOL! There were reasons that Luther left out certain books.

[.45 Long Colt]

Whatever. While you read your Aquinas, I will read Scripture.

[xone]

The Catholic Church gave you the New Testament.

The Catholic church inspired the NT? Taking credit for what God wrought. Cue the Martin Luther quote. Even though he made that statement it wasn't in reference to the inspired authorship. Despite the honor conveyed to the early church in preserving the NT, some Catholics pretend it is 'their' book, not Gods. Frankly, if Catholics authored it, you'd think they would have included the all important Tradition piece. As well as accepting 'stories' referenced by Christ instead of ignoring them.

[Colonel_Flagg]

I’ve followed your posts on the threads I’ve lurked and I know you to be very strong in your faith, so I know I’ll get a good answer from you. Please give me your thoughts on this:

If what you say is true, is that not sin? To not forgive or failing to make amends for a wrong done? And would Christ not have died for that sin as well, rendering an extra sentence for that sin unnecessary?

Bless your evening.

[xone]

There were reasons that Luther left out certain books.

Yeah, they weren't inspired. Weren't claimed to be so by ECF, Catholics no less.

[Salvation]

I didn’t say “inspired”, I said “gave”. You might want to check out which Bible was printed on the Guttenberg press.

[redleghunter]

Good article. Now to read the threads to see at what point the flamethrower comes out:)

I felt very much the same about my Catholic background until coming to FR.

[Salvation]

They were inspired by the Holy Spirit. Luther didn’t want them because they disproved some of his new theories.

But you already knew that, didn’t you?

[xone]

I didn’t say “inspired”, I said “gave”.

Therein lies the issue. It isn't God's Word.

[Former Fetus]

That is the passage I have been using as an example. Where does it say anything about purgatory? Did the rich man ever get out of the flames? Jesus did not say so. In fact this parable makes it very clear that, after death, there are only two destinations, smoking and non-smoking. That’s it, no third choice!

[xone]

You might want to check out which Bible was printed on the Guttenberg press.

The one that claims Mary crushed the serpents' head? No longer a Messianic promise, it becomes a Marian one instead where Mary conquers Satan.

[Salvation]

It IS God's word. I don't understand why you seem to be arguing with me.

Here are FR threads for your re-education. LOL! Even Luther said the Catholic Church gave the world the Bible.

"We are compelled to concede to the Papists
that they have the Word of God,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther

Some Biblical Truths
The "Apocrypha": Why It's Part of the Bible
How to Read the Bible – A Three Step Plan (written for Catholics - valid for all)
Where Does the Bible Say We Should Pray to Dead Saints?
The Canon of Scripture [Ecumenical]
To understand Bible, one must understand its nature, pope says
Let the Bible be “entrusted” to the faithful
But Seriously — Who Holds the Bible’s Copyright?

Ignorance of Scripture is Ignorance of Christ
Apostolic Authority and the Selection of the Gospels (Ecumenical)
The Bible - 73 or 66 Books? (Ecumenical Thread)
How Rediscovering the “Plot” of Sacred Scripture is Essential to Evangelization
The Word of God is a Person Not Merely a Text
Are Catholics into the Bible?
Are the Gospels Historical?
What is Biblical Prophecy? What Biblical Prophecy is NOT, and What It Really IS
Biblical Illiteracy and Bible Babel
The Pilgrims' Regress - The Geneva Bible And The "Apocrypha"

The "Inconvenient Tale" of the Original King James Bible
The Bible - an absolutely amazing book
Christian Scriptures, Jewish Commentary
Essays for Lent: The Canon of Scripture
Essays for Lent: The Bible
1500 year-old ‘ Syriac ‘ Bible found in Ankara, Turkey
How we should read the Bible
St. Jerome and the Vulgate (completing the FIRST Bible in the year 404) [Catholic Caucus]
In Bible Times
Deuterocanonical References in the New Testament

Translations Before the King James: - The KJV Translators Speak!
EWTN Live - March 23 - A Journey Through the Bible
"Our Father's Plan" - EWTN series with Dr. Scott Hahn and Jeff Cavins on the Bible timeline
The Daunting Journey From Faith to Faith [Anglicanism to Catholicism]
Reflections on the Soon to Be Released New American Bible (Revised Edition)[Catholic Caucus]
New American Bible changes some words such as "holocaust"
Is the Bible the Only Revelation from God? (Catholic / Orthodox Caucus)
History of the Bible (caution: long)
Catholic and Protestant Bibles
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH: ON READING THE BIBLE [Catholic Caucus]

Because I Love the Bible
Where Is That Taught in the Bible?
When Was the Bible Really Written?
Three Reasons for Teaching the Bible [St. Thomas Aquinas]
The Smiting Is Still Implied (God of the OT vs the NT)
Where Is That Taught in the Bible?
Friday Fast Fact: The Bible in English
Bible Reading is Central in Conversions to Catholicism in Shangai, Reports Organization
Verses (in Scripture) I Never Saw
5 Myths about 7 Books

Lectionary Statistics - How much of the Bible is included in the Lectionary for Mass? (Popquiz!)
Pope calls Catholics to daily meditation on the Bible
What Are the "Apocrypha?"
The Accuracy of Scripture
US Conference of Catholic Bishops recommendations for Bible study
CNA unveils resource to help Catholics understand the Scriptures
The Dos and Don’ts of Reading the Bible [Ecumenical]
Pope to lead marathon Bible reading on Italian TV
The Complete Bible: Why Catholics Have Seven More Books [Ecumenical]
Beginning Catholic: Books of the Catholic Bible: The Complete Scriptures [Ecumenical]

Beginning Catholic: When Was The Bible Written? [Ecumenical]
The Complete Bible: Why Catholics Have Seven More Books [Ecumenical]
U.S. among most Bible-literate nations: poll
Bible Lovers Not Defined by Denomination, Politics
Dei Verbum (Catholics and the Bible)
Vatican Offers Rich Online Source of Bible Commentary
Clergy Congregation Takes Bible Online
Knowing Mary Through the Bible: Mary's Last Words
A Bible Teaser For You... (for everyone :-)
Knowing Mary Through the Bible: New Wine, New Eve

Return of Devil's Bible to Prague draws crowds
Doctrinal Concordance of the Bible [What Catholics Believe from the Bible] Catholic Caucus
Should We Take the Bible Literally or Figuratively?
Glimpsing Words, Practices, or Beliefs Unique to Catholicism [Bible Trivia]
Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Church and the Bible(Caatholic Caucus)
Pope Urges Prayerful Reading of Bible
Catholic Caucus: It's the Church's Bible
How Tradition Gave Us the Bible
The Church or the Bible

[xone]

Agree with you completely.