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Meat-heavy low-carb diets can 'shorten lifespan': study
Daily Mail ^ | August 16, 2018 | AFP

Posted on 08/18/2018 11:03:44 AM PDT by fireman15

Middle-aged people who get roughly half their daily calories from carbohydrates live several years longer on average than those with meat-heavy low-carb diets, researchers reported Friday. The findings, published in The Lancet medical journal, challenge a trend in Europe and North America toward so-called Paleo diets that shun carbohydrates in favour of animal protein and fat. Proponents of these "Stone Age" diets argue that the rapid shift 10,000 years ago -- with the advent of agriculture -- to grains, dairy and legumes has not allowed the human body enough time to adapt to these high-carb foods. For the study, receiving less than 40 percent of total energy intake from carbohydrates qualified as a low-carb regimen, though many such diets reduce the share to 20 percent or less. At the other extreme, a 70 percent or higher share of carbohydrates -- such as pasta, rice, cakes, sugary drinks -- can also reduce longevity, but by far less, the scientists found. "Low-carb diets that replace carbohydrates with protein or fat are gaining widespread popularity as a health and weight loss strategy," said lead author Sara Seidelmann, a researcher at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston. "However, our data suggests that animal-based low carbohydrate diets might be associated with shorter overall lifespan and should be discouraged." Replacing meat with plant-based fats (such as avocados and nuts) and proteins (such as soy products and lentils) reduces the risk of mortality, Seidelmann and her team found. The optimal balance of food groups for longevity remains hotly debated. Many studies have concluded that eating carbohydrates in moderation -- 45 to 55 percent of total calorie intake -- is best, but others report improved short-term, cardio-metabolic health with high-protein, high-fat diets.

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TOPICS: Education; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: atkins; carbs; diet; longevity; lowcarbdiet; meat; protein; replaceallmeat; saraseidelmann; soy; soyispoison; vegan; veganpropaganda; vegetarians; vegetariansonfr
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To: fireman15

Protein and fat from healthy animals, no seed oils, and (almost) no processed grain food, you should be good to go for 100 years. Our gut bugs do want us to eat starchy carbs, but they should be natural, like rice, a few grains alone, not baked into crap, and best starches from vegetable roots like tubers. 1 serving or less of fruit a day. Rare dessert. If it doesn’t cause digestive problems, even a little natural, minimally processed bread would be ok.

It’s more a cumulative thing. If you eat a healthy, clean diet all week, of course you can share someone’s birthday cake.


41 posted on 08/18/2018 11:49:30 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: kiryandil

Correct!

Cured patients are no longer customers.


42 posted on 08/18/2018 11:50:00 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: fireman15

And another study...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30114226

High protein intake is associated with low plasma NAD+ levels in a healthy human cohort.

High protein diets may accelerate aging more than we thought


43 posted on 08/18/2018 11:50:03 AM PDT by erlayman (yw)
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To: kiryandil

Good science it ain’t lol!

I see a label with ANY grams of sugar on it I put it down & move on.


44 posted on 08/18/2018 11:51:21 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: fireman15

'might be'?

Come back when you are scientifically sure.


45 posted on 08/18/2018 11:54:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: grania

I’m guessing there’s something wrong other than diet.

I like the idea of clean food but there are lots of people with boundless energy who eat food that would never pass muster with the clean food crowd so I’m going to say that’s not the problem.

I drink about a quart of heavy cream weekly plus lots of other dairy and I just spent two months in the middle of the desert humping it daily and I had plenty of energy. I don’t think dairy is the problem.

Naturally lettuce is worthless as a source of nutrition other than fiber. Maybe look there but I’m guessing the problem is somewhere else.


46 posted on 08/18/2018 11:54:59 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: TheStickman

I love what you did!

If you don’t do this already, let me add to your health. Zero carb means you can’t keep the healthiest gut bugs in yer belly. May I suggest you add to your cool to warm not hot) drinks (including water, whatever you drink, or even nice full fat yogurt) either potato starch or inulin? It’s the lowest carb way to feed your gut bugs the resistant starch the good ones need. Plus since it isn’t digested it probably is a zero carb addition to you! Start with one tbsp a day.

You will have some vivid dreams and a bit more well being, as well as better digestion. Ignore if you are already on top of it but remember that our bacterial biome helps our thinking and psychology. You don’t want to ignore them, and you don’t want to add a bunch of heavy carbs to your diet. Try those two powders. Inulin is better, but more expensive. Potato starch is dirt cheap.


47 posted on 08/18/2018 11:55:11 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: 2banana


Yes.


48 posted on 08/18/2018 11:55:42 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: visualops

low carb, carnivore ping to da wife creature :)


49 posted on 08/18/2018 11:56:17 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: fireman15

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Fake news abounds in the ‘Vege’ world!


50 posted on 08/18/2018 11:56:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yep.


51 posted on 08/18/2018 11:56:59 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: fireman15

Some people lose weight by just cutting out half their carbs.


52 posted on 08/18/2018 11:57:04 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: grania

Tell her to get some mushrooms and Fresh Kale and green beans and celery and carrots and broccoli and onions and a bit of garlic and sautee it up in some butter and olive oil and you have a lot of the stuff you need.


53 posted on 08/18/2018 11:57:42 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Cravings come from the gut bacteria species we do not WANT to have. Best to go quite low carb and no sugar for a bit to kill them off, then add in only veggies and root veggies as your carbs, and you will get gut bugs that actively crave roasted beets, etc. I’ve done it. It works. The bugs are very persuasive.


54 posted on 08/18/2018 11:57:43 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: a fool in paradise

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>> “Brought to you by the grain lobby” <<

The quickest and most painful way to die!


55 posted on 08/18/2018 11:57:52 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: kiryandil

I lost about fifty pounds over the summer of my sixteenth year on a low carb diet that had an upper limit of 55 grams. I probably consumed less than ten each day for two months, and had my first real job burning calories like mad, to achieve that result. You’re right. A “limit” of 160 grams (almost six ounces) is ludicrous. Besides, refined sugar bears a similar resemblance to unrefined carbs like starches and whole grains as cocaine does to coca leaves. Refining anything down to its addictive core is where real trouble starts. It changes something nature has built us to handle into poison.


56 posted on 08/18/2018 11:58:06 AM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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To: CJ Wolf

haha. Sounds like a great diet :)

Can you lose weight on it?


57 posted on 08/18/2018 11:58:14 AM PDT by cazmandeuce
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

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Adam’s children ate meat.

They all lived 800-900 years.

10,000 years ago the universe was not here, nor was time; it hadn’t been invented yet.


58 posted on 08/18/2018 12:00:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Yaelle

“I love what you did!”

Thanks. It’s working wonderfully for me. For me right now, the notion of adding anything at this time is just not in the cards. I’ve gone through too much for too long to risk adding anything I am not 100% certain cannot harm me.

Thanks for the suggestions as I’m sure they are based on helpful intentions. I will give them some thought & research the info. There is a large group of carnivores in a facebook group called, Zeroing In On Health & some of those folks talk about biome issues now & then.


59 posted on 08/18/2018 12:01:13 PM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: TheStickman

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Right on!
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60 posted on 08/18/2018 12:01:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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