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Scientists finally solve mystery of why Europeans have less Neanderthal DNA than East Asians
Live Science ^ | October 18, 2023 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 10/26/2023 11:05:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Modern Europeans have a smaller proportion of Neanderthal genes in their genomes than East Asians do. New research suggests the reason lies at the feet of migrating early farmers.

A wave of migrating farmers from the ancient Middle East may be the reason why modern Europeans don't carry as much Neanderthal DNA as today's East Asians do, a new study finds.

All humans with ancestry from outside of Africa have a little bit of Neanderthal in them — about 2% of the genome, on average. But people with East Asian ancestry have between 8% and 24% more Neanderthal genes than people of European ancestry. That's a bit of a paradox, because fossil evidence suggests Neanderthals lived in Europe. Why, then, should East Asians carry more of those genes today?

Now, a new study posits a solution to this conundrum: While a wave of human migration out of Africa before at least 40,000 years ago brought Homo sapiens — who were hunter-gatherers — into contact with their Homo neanderthalensis cousins and led to interbreeding, a later wave of H. sapiens migrating about 10,000 years ago diluted Neanderthal genes in Europe only. This was the movement of farmers with minimal Neanderthal ancestry from what is today the Middle East and southwestern Asia into Europe. These early farmers mixed with local hunter-gatherers, bringing a more H. sapiens-flavored genome to the region. The Homo sapiens who settled East Asia by around 60,000 to 70,000 years ago did not undergo this dilution from newcomers...

Research suggests that having Neanderthal genes didn't lead to any major survival advantages or disadvantages for humans, so natural selection is probably not the reason why some populations carry more of these genes than others, Hawks told Live Science...

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
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1 posted on 10/26/2023 11:05:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/26/2023 11:06:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Er, science doesn’t have may, might or could in it.


3 posted on 10/26/2023 11:07:40 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: SunkenCiv

Atilla the Hun................


4 posted on 10/26/2023 11:13:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Seruzawa

That’s called an hypothesis.


5 posted on 10/26/2023 11:14:10 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Seruzawa
Er, science doesn’t have may, might or could in it.

At least their admitting they really don't know for sure. Unlike COVID and climate change which as you know is "settled".

6 posted on 10/26/2023 11:14:55 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: SunkenCiv

7 posted on 10/26/2023 11:19:59 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Seruzawa

Of course it does. Superstitions speak in absolutes.


8 posted on 10/26/2023 11:20:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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if Neanderthal DNA confers no evolutionary advantages or disadvantages, then why didn’t Neanderthals survive through time to today?


9 posted on 10/26/2023 11:20:27 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: SteveH

They did. We call them demo-commies now-a-days.


10 posted on 10/26/2023 11:22:34 AM PDT by curious7
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To: Seruzawa

“Er, science doesn’t have may, might or could in it.”

It does if it is reporting uncertainty.


11 posted on 10/26/2023 11:26:29 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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To: SteveH
if Neanderthal DNA confers no evolutionary advantages or disadvantages, then why didn’t Neanderthals survive through time to today?

I believe they did.


12 posted on 10/26/2023 11:29:53 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: SteveH

Well regardless of what your DNA is, if your whole tribe gets killed off by the opposition that DNA is a dead end.


13 posted on 10/26/2023 11:31:17 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Only a sith deals in absolutes.”


14 posted on 10/26/2023 11:33:13 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: SunkenCiv

“Research suggests that having Neanderthal genes didn’t lead to any major survival advantages or disadvantages for humans”

All manner of jokes are begging to follow this comment!


15 posted on 10/26/2023 11:33:19 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: SunkenCiv

I had previously read the highest Neandertal DNA was in the Norse. That Neandertal were blond or red haired and contributed to the height.


16 posted on 10/26/2023 11:41:56 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member)
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To: SteveH

I guess they were smarter, but more naturally peaceful, and the newcomers either wiped them out and/or raped them out of existence.


17 posted on 10/26/2023 11:45:10 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: SteveH
A small part seems to have provided resistance to diseases endemic to Ice Age Europe. These would have been kept.

In contrast, genes associated with the neuropathways that guide speech were strongly selected against in modern humans, suggesting that the H. sapiens genes provided real advantages.

Most of the surviving Neanderthal DNA is inactive, which also suggests it may have been selected against or simply did nothing in H. sapiens cell metabolism but did not interfere with it.

As far as survival goes, the evidence so far suggests that early modern humans formed much larger social groups and communicated over much larger distances, giving those groups a big advantage over Neanderthals. They may not have been killed off, merely bred out of existence. If Neanderthals had survived in the Near East and learned agriculture, they might be wondering why H. sapiens did not survive.

18 posted on 10/26/2023 11:47:25 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I guess they were smarter, but more naturally peaceful...

Unlikely on both counts. They had bigger brains, but most of the increase in the back part of the skull associated with vision. They also had larger eyes, so I would guess they had much better vision than we do, especially night vision.

The lack of some genes associated with speech suggests they couldn't communicate as well as we can.

As far as peaceful goes, the modern humans who lived as the Neanderthals did (and who have a high level of Denisovan genes) are the highlanders of New Guinea. Their clans constantly fought ferociously and ate each other.

19 posted on 10/26/2023 11:57:51 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Sawdring

Don’t get me started on those *******s. ;^)


20 posted on 10/26/2023 11:57:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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