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Ancient DNA (Cheddar Man, Otzi, Etc)
International Society Of Genetic Geneology ^ | 1-7-2007

Posted on 01/07/2007 5:11:17 PM PST by blam

To see the DNA results of some of the ancient people click here. You'll have to scan around to find this exact page but it contains many links of interest.

A compilation of DNA haplotypes extracted from ancient remains

Cheddar Man

In 1903, skeletal remains were found in a cave in Cheddar, England. The remains of a 23 year-old man, who was killed by a blow to the face, were discovered to be at least 9,000 years old. Ninety-four years after the discovery of "Cheddar Man", scientists were able to extract mitochondrial DNA from his tooth cavity. Name Haplo Haplotype Cheddar Man U5a 16192T, 16270T

Bryan Sykes, and his team at Oxford University distributed DNA test kits to local Cheddar schools, and a match was found to a local schoolteacher, Adrian Targett. (More) on Cheddar Man.

Ice Man - Otzi of Italy

Widely known as "Otzi (Oetzi)" the Iceman found in 1991 in the Italian Alps, is also known as "Similaun Man". Of the Neolithic era, Otzi lived between 3350-3300 B.C. in the "Copper Age". He was believed to be 46-years old when he died at the top of a mountain pass from wounds received. (More)

Name Haplo Haplotype Ice Man K 16224C, 16311C

Ice Maiden - "Juanita" of Peru

Also known as "Juanita", the Inca Ice Maiden was discovered on Mount Ampato, near Arequipa, Peru by Johann Reinhard in 1995. She was sacrificed sometime around the ages of 12-14 and lived about 500 years ago. Her body lay frozen at the mountaintop until a nearby volcanic eruption melted Mount Ampato's ice cap.

Name Haplo Haplotype Ice Maiden A 16111T, 16223T, 16290T, 16319A

Luke the Evangelist - aka St. Luke

A doctor, but better known as the biblical author of the "Gospel According to Luke", Luke the Evangelist was believed to have been born in Antioch, in the Roman province of Syria. Historical sources cite that he died at the age of 84 in Thebes (Greece) around the year 150 A.D. His body was interred first in Constantinople, and then later transferred to Padua, Italy. Geneticists have tested the remains believed to be those of Luke, and sampled Syrian and Greek populations for comparison. They've determined that the body attributed as Luke's, is likely of Syrian origin. (Source)

Name Haplo Haplotype Luke H 16235G, 16291T

The Norwich Anglo-Saxon

Is the Anglo-Saxon skeleton found at Norwich Castle indeed of Romani origin as stated in the media? (Source) Or does the young Anglo-Saxon just share a partial haplotype similar to a Romani? (View sequences)

Name Haplo Haplotype Anglo-Saxon X 16189A, 16223T, 16271C, 16278T

The DNA Saga of King Tut

Will he or won't he be tested? That is the question! In December 2000, a team of Japanese scientists announced that they had received approval to DNA test the most famous of ancient Egypt's kings. (Source) By 2001, Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities reversed their decision to allow testing. (Source) Another announcement to do forensic testing on King Tut came in 2004, but was halted after a public outcry. (Source)

Western European DNA found in Central Asia

DNA analysis of the remains of nomadic peoples in Kazakhstan provides evidence of Western genetic influence in Asia between the 15th century BC and the 5th century AD. (Source)

mtDNA Lineages from the Basques of Aldaieta

HVR1 mitochondrial DNA sequences from a 6th-7th century Basque burial site reveals a diverse genetic population indicating that the Basques may not have been an "isolated" population. (Source)

2,000 Year-Old Cemetery in Egyin Gol Valley, Mongolia

mtDNA, Y-chromosome DNA and nuclear DNA was successfully extracted from a Mongolian cemetery containing 99 individuals. (Source)

Neanderthal DNA

Several ancient Neanderthal remains have been typed and found to differ significantly from human mitochondrial DNA. (Source) Amazingly, a team of scientists in Germany have recovered and sequenced Y-chromosome DNA from a 49,000 year-old Neanderthal. (Source) For more info and sequences

Coming soon: Mycenaean Shaft Graves NOT coming soon: Kennewick Man

NOTE: All of the above haplotypes are the result of scientific genetics studies, and most, if not all, have been published in scientific journals. Submissions of additional haplotypes are welcome, please submit the values along with an online link to the scientific publication of the subject's study to ISOGG. Submissions will be reviewed and ISOGG reserves the right to accept or decline submissions. The purpose of the "Ancient DNA" page is to provide a compilation of DNA results of ancient homo sapiens for comparison and educational purposes only.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; ancientautopsies; ancientnavigation; bronzeage; cheddarman; dna; epigraphyandlanguage; geneology; genetic; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; indoeuropeans; neolithic; norwich; roots
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To: SunkenCiv
Very interesting! Many thanks for the ping; as always.
41 posted on 01/07/2007 9:02:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sherman Logan

The DNA family studies I've looked at (ones where a number of people are researching a related ancestory), and have tested people in the same purported lines) have shown an amazing amount of faithfulness...more than modern assumptions would lead one to believe...


42 posted on 01/08/2007 5:30:40 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Interesting.


43 posted on 01/08/2007 5:38:40 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Sherman Logan

> The DNA family studies I've looked at (ones where a number of people are researching a related ancestory), and have tested people in the same purported lines) have shown an amazing amount of faithfulness...more than modern assumptions would lead one to believe... <

Good observation. I can offer at least two hypotheses by way of explanation. And they aren't by any means mutually exclusive:

1. Families that value "faithfulness" will also tend to value the study of family history. So there's a self-selection bias among those people who study genealogy, whether or not they employ DNA analysis for their research.

2. Faithfulness is also correlated with factors that contribute to "family survivability" or "fitness" -- such as education, health status, and income. So over the long span of history, more children conceived "within marriages" will have survived to adulthood and will have borne children than will have children conceived in extra-marital and non-marital circumstances.

[Obviously however, the second hypothesis may lose its explanatory value for future generations of researchers, due to today's social pathology whereby out-of-wedlock births have lost most of their historical stigma and where government welfare programs have positively encouraged illegitimacy.]


44 posted on 01/08/2007 7:51:33 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Pharmboy

Wazzamatta U? No sense of humor? Cardiff Giant? Wasn't that the other fraud?
Where's Java man?


45 posted on 01/08/2007 8:15:33 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

HAHA...HOHO...HEEHEE...Oh boy...ya gots me...I'm laughing so hard I'm crying here...you must be life o' the party.

The Giant and Piltdown were hoaxes. Java man Homo erectus...


46 posted on 01/08/2007 10:04:46 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy
Hmmm! You really don't have a sense of humor then? Of course they were fake! But the hubbub surrounding them was hugh and series when they were first "discovered." And, didn't Java man go missing for a long time? Or was that another partial skeleton? "Piltdown Man" was my favorite segment from Oldfield's "Tubular Bells."
47 posted on 01/08/2007 10:25:47 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
It was Peking Man (again, Asian Homo erectus) that was and IS still missing. Lost during WWII...all we have are the casts of the fossils.
48 posted on 01/08/2007 10:40:27 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy
"It was Peking Man" Thanks! I didn't really think it was Java Man, but Peking (or is it Beijing?) Man was lost somewhere in the gray matter jumble.
49 posted on 01/08/2007 10:44:41 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: blam
Very interesting. Our Scottish ancestors are Munro (me) and Kerr (my wife). I am betting that there was a bit of intermarriage between the clans.

And I also have some Swede in me.
50 posted on 01/08/2007 12:05:38 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I didn't really think it was Java Man, but Peking (or is it Beijing?) Man was lost somewhere in the gray matter jumble.

I'm sorry, I don't have him. Have you looked in the pachysandra? Over the years I've lost eyeglasses, a wallet, half a bikini, my best wirecutters, and some very special shell casings, in pachysandra. But there's nothing in my jumble except the elderberry wine and some tea strainers.

51 posted on 01/24/2007 3:16:44 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Pharmboy

52 posted on 02/21/2007 4:19:49 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

53 posted on 02/21/2007 4:20:54 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Oh geez...I'm R1b just like (shudder, gasp) Charlie Rose??


54 posted on 02/21/2007 4:31:38 PM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: Pharmboy
"Oh geez...I'm R1b just like (shudder, gasp) Charlie Rose??"

And...Dr Spencer Wells who is in charge of the National Geographic Genographic Project.

Have you been here and seen where the R1b trail comes/goes? If you're interested, go to the bottom, click on 'genetic markers' then look to the right on the next page and click on the R haplogroup.

I sent my DNA packet off today.

55 posted on 02/21/2007 5:08:47 PM PST by blam
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To: Pharmboy
"Oh geez...I'm R1b...just like Charlie Rose! Yecchhhh..."

A reminder ping.

56 posted on 03/25/2007 7:15:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: BenLurkin

Take it from me - she’s a stiff!!


57 posted on 04/30/2007 9:45:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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