Posted on 08/27/2007 11:26:12 AM PDT by stm
Yep, ya gotta love the MSM - all that courage of conviction - - backbone - - fairness... yeah, right. The new "yellow" in journalism stands for cowardliness....
Jihad has always meant “Fighting in Allahs cause”.
If a thousand verses from the Koran doesn’t clearly tell you that, and a thousand more hadith, then there is no hope for you.
When they are sawing off your head, don’t forget to remind them what Jihad is.
Mein Kampf = My Struggle = Jihad
Nathan’s main point is right on.. Jihad is Holy War. Sure, it’s ‘struggle’ or whatever, but everyone knows it means Holy War.
Noble Qur'an:2:190 Footnote: "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite."
That is thwe Koran's definition, not mine.
One more victory for double standards. I don’t see what the problem with the strip is, but then I’m not a radical muslim who is just looking for something to be offended by.
As if Moose Limbs are capable of responding any other way? "Rationally" isn't a form of response that many of them seem to be too familiar with.
In the Koran it establishes that "Allah" is his name-
Qur'an 20:8 "Allah! There is no Ilah (God) save Him. His are the most beautiful Names. To Him belong the most beautiful attributes." [Allah is conceited]
The word "allah" is actually a contraction from a phrase used by the pagan arabs,(the god most high) which evolved into the name "Allah" which they called their black rock.
At first, Mohammad called his god Ar-Rahman, because the name "Allah" was already in use by the pagan Arabs in Mecca.
Early arguments between the Pagan Quarish tribe (Mohammads own tribe) have them saying things like "by Allah, we will not believe in YOUR god, Mohammad"
Mohammad wasn't able to take the name "Allah" for his gods name until he slaughtered his own tribe and took the "Ka'aba"(rock god shrine) by force. All the time he spent in exile in Medina his god was called Ar-Rahman. After the conquest of Mecca, Ar-Rahman is never used again.
So while 'allah" may have had it's beginnings as part of a phrase meaning god, it developed into a NAME, and is just that and only that. Personally I say it's another name for Satan.
Qur'an 20:14 "Verily, I am Allah. No Ilah (God) may be worshiped but I. So serve you Me, and perform regular prostration prayer for My praise. Verily the Hour is coming. I am almost hiding it from Myself." [Allah is childish]
Here, "Allah" is telling the Jews that their God is NOT the same as himself, "Allah".
Qur'an 20:96 "Now look at your ilah (god), of whom you have become devoted. We will (burn) it and scatter it in the sea! But your Ilah (God) is Allah: there is no ilah (god) but He. Thus do We relate to you some stories of what happened before from Our own Remembrance."
It's pretty hard to argue "Allah" means god when the Koran argues clearly that it is a NAME.
No, that’s the definition provided by a commentator on the Koran, neither your definition nor mine, nor the Koran’s.
Your reasoning is like arguing that the footnotes in an annotate version of the King James (or ‘Authorized’) version of the Christian Scriptures are part of the Bible.
Arabic speakers speaking in a non-theological or non-Muslim context use the word in its original and general meaning of ‘struggle’.(there are Arabic speaking Christians—my Metropolitan and Patriarch are both native speakers of Arabic, and my Bishop is fluent, for instance, and besides the Orthodox, or Rum, as we are called in the Middle East, lots of Maronites, Melkite Uniates, Syrian Jacobites, and, for that matter, since the Arabization of Egypt, Copts).
The sheer vileness of Mohammed’s false teachings is not a reason for you to either misunderstand or misrepresent Arabic linguistics.
That footnote is the definition that the Islamic council holds to be the meaning of the Koran, so you are now arguing that the Islamic scholars, all those that control every word printed in the Koran are all wrong as well?
That can get your head chopped off if you lived in an Islamic country.
Funny cartoon and it should have been run. The Falwell one was good as well.
Amen.
They just retreat to their girlie-man caves.
All I’m arguing is that your footnote is, at best, dishonest and at worst, an outright lie.
Odd, that I didn’t come across any such footnotes. Of course I stopped looking after I found 2 sources that didn’t mention anything close to what your footnotes read.
Funny how people perverse history to use it for their personal gains.
Don’t tell me what’s hogwash. I personally know Christian Arabic speakers. Do you? Do you know anyone who speaks Arabic?
Lying about Arabic does not advance the resistance to the false teachings of Mohammed. It only makes the liar look like a stupid bigot, thereby harming the cause by making it easier for the Muslims to portray their opponents as rubes or racists who hate all Arabs regardless of creed.
Stick to showing that Islam is a political ideology cloaked in a religion that needs to be resisted for the sake of Western Civilization and any understanding of freedom, right or left, and stop exhibiting your ignorance of foreign languages as if it somehow helped the cause of resisting the Jihad. (By the way, capitalizing it in transliteration, particularly with the definite article does fix it as having the Muslim theological sense.)
Qur'an:2:216 "Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. "Warfare is ordained for you."
Nothing to suggest "personal struggle" in any of it.
The Koran is nothing but a war manual from beginning to end. Just put it in order and read it. The only time abrogation occurs is when a later sura replaces an earlier one, which is why the Koran has to be read in order it was "handed down" (made up by Mohammad as he went along)There is nothing 'peacefull' and about a 'inner struggle' in any of it.
Subtlety is a virtue! Humor shouldn't be like a smack in the teeth with a shovel!
Inshallah means “God [Allah] willing”
Second, I am not supporting the spurious story told by double-dealing Muslim apologists that most Muslims accept as authoritative the Hadith in which Mohammed after a defeat tells his followers that they are leaving the 'lesser jihad' of warfare against the infidel for the 'greater jihad' of personal purification.
At best a tiny minority of Muslims (mostly among the Sufi) regard that Hadith as genuine, though lots and lots of Wahhabis and even Salafists, all of whom reject its authenticity, will cite it to deceive non-Muslims.
I repeat, I am talking about the meaning of the word 'jihad' in Arabic, qua Arabic, not in Islamic discourse. In Arabic it means 'struggle', period. In Islamic discourse (with the exception of a minority among the Sufi) it means the particular struggle, warfare against the infidel.
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