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Restoring Honor Rally Opening Prayer of Dedication Addressed to the "gods"
Jmouse007

Posted on 08/31/2010 10:18:57 AM PDT by Jmouse007

The opening prayer of dedication at Glenn Becks "Restoring Honor" rally:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47V-dpiLM78

(Pastor Jehles (Pronounced "Jail") is introduced and invited to give the opening prayer of dedication at approximately the 5minute:14second mark.)

was addressed to the "gods", NOT to the one TRUE God who establised America, not to the God of the Bible or of biblical Christianity.

We watched the entire "Restoring Honor" event and "Pastor" Paul Jehles OPENING PRAYER in behalf of the nation and everyone assembled which was addressed to the Lord "gods" (plural) was appalling!

This "pastor" made a specific point of calling on the "gods" for various reasons at least SEVEN TIMES in his "prayer".

(He is introduced to give the prayer of dedication at approximately the 5minute: 14second mark.)

Having taught Homiletics, I carefully reviewed his "prayer" in order to confirm what I distinctly thought I heard. I have listened to his prayer numerous times using all of the tools at my disposal and my conclusion is this: It is clearly evident from the recorded prayer found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47V-dpiLM78

that he was NOT making a mistake or that he had a lisp or speech impediment when he referred to the "gods". This is evident because in the very beginning of the "prayer" he prayed to God" (no plural) and then shortly thereafter, and I believe for the remainder of the "prayer", he prayed to the "gods".

This is either because "Pastor" Paul Jehles is a Mormon (which, upon further examination of his background, education, ministry and bio, is not the case), or because he was being PC and trying to appease all of the other "faiths" and the various false "gods" they represent and serve. In either case what he said from the dais and what he "prayed" in behalf of those gathered, and in behalf of the nation of America, in order to dedicate and open this event was nothing short of evil and Satanic!

To my knowledge, never before in the history of America has a supposed man of the cloth specifically prayed to the "gods" in a massive national public forum representing America and praying for the "gods" blessings upon the nation.

This is deeply disturbing and raises very real issues regarding the "spiritual" nature of the event, and Glenn Beck's relationship to "jesus"; especially in light of the fact that Mr. Beck injected Mormon theology into the event prior to the prayer by addressing the American Indians on the platform as "God's CHOSEN PEOPLE"! A title and position scripturally reserved for the Jews alone!

Mr. Beck was responsible for the event and nothing took place, no one did anything, without his direct involvement.

Pastor Paul Jehle was specifically chosen to give the OPENING prayer of dedication for the Restoring Honor rally. He does not appear to have any speech impediment.

In his "prayer" you can distinctly hear him apparently praying to the "gods" at least SEVEN different times:

He is introduced by Glenn Beck and invited to give the opening prayer of dedication at approximately 5minute: 14second mark.

Feel free to examine the following evidence for yourself.

Observations:

1) Whenever Pastor Jehles uses plurals: "peoples," "nations," "rights," "accounts," "treaties," "words" etc, he draws out the Ssss at the end of the word. When he uses singular words he does not put an "s" on the end or draw out an Ssss on the end of the word.

2) He begins his prayer by using the SINGULAR form "God" and uses the singular form "God" THREE TIMES before switching to the PLURAL word "gods" (*Note: all of the following minute and second marks are approximate):

He starts his prayer with "Lord God"(singular) 5:47

"In the name of 'God'" (singular) amen 6:42

"blessed the 'God'" (singular) of heaven 6:52

3) After this, Pastor Jehle switches to the plural term: "gods" for the remainder of his prayer. He uses the term "gods" at least EIGHT TIMES (unless "under gods" at the very end of the prayer is in fact singular. This is the only instance that is difficult to discern):

"Lord gods" used 4x's: 7:02, 7:09, 7:37, 7:43;

"Oh gods" used 1x :7:56

"You will do it because your gods" used 1x: 8:58

"Restoring gods" used 1x: 9:21

"One nation under gods" used 1x: 9:39. In this ONE case it is not clear if he is saying "God" or "gods", in every other instance it is clearly evident that he is using the plural and it is very disturbing to say the least.

My son, along with 200 others from Oklahoma City attended the rally and my son, along with EVERYONE around him was taken aback when they heard Jails praying to the "gods" and they were also very disturbed by what he said as he said it!

So what? Why does this matter? Why is what Pastor Jehle said in his prayer important?

This IS important! The reason it DOES matter is because throughout the event and on his TV and radio shows, Glenn repeatedly talks about the individual and America's need to "come to god," to return to "god". In light of Glenn's Mormonism and his specific choice of "Pastor" Paul Jehle to give the OPENING PRAYER OF DEDICATION to the "gods", which set the tone for the entire event, the preeminent question we must all ask ourselves and Glenn Beck is this =

WHICH "god"? Which "gods" are you calling us to cry out to? Which "god" are you calling America and Americans to follow and obey?

As much as I love and respect Glenn Beck, the "jesus" of Mormonism, the "jesus" and "gods" Glenn and Mormonism worship and serve are NOT the Lord Jesus Christ, or the God of the Bible. Neither are they the God who established America.

There is only ONE TRUE and LIVING God, He is a jealous God and He will NOT give His glory to another "god" because ALL OTHER "gods", including "jesus" and ALL of the "gods" of Mormonism, are FALSE "gods":

‘See now that I, I AM HE, And there is NO god BESIDES ME; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from MY HAND.' (Deuteronomy 32:39 Emphasis mine)

You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was NO God formed, And there will be NONE after Me.

“I, even I, AM the LORD, And THERE IS NO SAVIOR BESIDES ME.

“It is I who have declared and saved and proclaimed, And there was no strange god among you; So you are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “And I AM GOD.

“Even FROM ETERNITY I AM HE, And there is none who can deliver out of My hand; I act and who can reverse it?” (Isaiah 43:10-13 Emphasis mine)

“I AM the LORD, that is MY NAME;

I WILL NOT GIVE MY GLORY TO ANOTHER,

Nor My praise to graven images. (Isaiah 42:8, Emphasis mine)

We are living in the Last days, spiritual deception and false "Christs" abound. Given the times in which we are living, it is imperative that all of us who know the true and living God use spiritual discernment in order to avoid following after false Christs, and false "gods", including the false "jesus" and false "gods" of Mormonism because all of the supposed "good works" in the world cannot save us:

"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. “MANY will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME, and IN YOUR NAME CAST OUT DEMONS, and IN YOUR NAME PERFORM MANY MIRACLES?’ “And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’" (Matthew 27:10-13, Emphasis mine)

God's Word is clear; as Christians and the Church of Jesus Christ we have a responsibility to maintain spiritual purity for the cause of Christ and in order to maintain purity regarding the genuine Gospel of Jesus Christ:

DO NOT BE BOUND TOGETHER WITH UNBELIEVERS; for what PARTNERSHIP have RIGHTEOUSNESS and LAWLESSNESS, or what FELLOWSHIP has LIGHT with DARKNESS?

Or what HARMONY has Christ with BELIAL, or what has a BELIEVER in common with an UNBELIEVER?

Or what agreement has THE TEMPLE OF GOD WITH IDOLS? For WE ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them;

And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

“Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,” says the Lord. “And do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you. “And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,” Says the Lord Almighty. (2 Corinthians 6:14-18, Emphasis mine)

We need to be careful because God may be testing America as to whether or not we will serve Him and Him alone of follow after false "gods":

“If a PROPHET or a dreamer of dreams ARISES AMONG YOU and gives you a SIGN or a WONDER,

and the sign or the wonder COMES TRUE, concerning which he spoke to you, saying, ‘LET US GO AFTER O T H E R gods (WHOM YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN) and LET US SERVE THEM,’

YOU SHALL NOT LISTEN TO THE WORDS OF THAT PROPHET or that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God IS TESTING YOU TO FIND OUT IF YOU LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL.

“You shall follow THE LORD YOUR God and FEAR HIM; and YOU SHALL KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, LISTEN to HIS VOICE, SERVE HIM, and CLING TO HIM.

“But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has HE HAS COUNSELED REBELLION AGAINST THE LORD YOUR GOD who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery, TO SEDUCE YOU FROM THE WAY IN WHICH THE LORD YOUR GOD COMMANDED YOU TO WALK. So you shall purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Emphasis mine)

As Christians our responsibility is to "seek first the kingdom of God", not the country of America. If that means removing ourselves from future events and rally's promoted by Mr. Beck or others that seek to "restore America" or "restore honor" while promoting "spiritual unity" at the cost of doctrinal purity between those who know the Lord Jesus Christ and individuals, denominations and cults, like Mormonism which do not, then so be it.

For more on this pressing issue please see the following article by Brannon S. Howse regarding:

Following Glenn Beck's Divine Destiny or God's Word By Brannon S. Howse

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-times/article.php?articleid=6439


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To: Jmouse007

This might sound crazy but did this writer ask the minister what he meant? I have friends that speak in plural form. It threw me at first but when you think of it They are Three yet One.


41 posted on 08/31/2010 10:56:09 AM PDT by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: Jmouse007

This was not a crusade. I think you have your trousers in a twist over nothing important. No one went there to be converted.


42 posted on 08/31/2010 10:56:09 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Of course, I heard that “all y’all” thing from a woman while standing in line for the potty at the rally this weekend.

Now, I’m convinced she was a subversive element put in place by the people that allowed the “gods” thing to enter the speeches there. Her job was just to complicate and confuse the rallyers. No telling how many people she told that to...there could be entire busloads of people just waking up to the hideous nature of this subterfuge.

She was good too. She made it sound like a joke...with a cute little laugh coming from this cute little Southern Belle. Little did we understand the damage this joke would ultimately bring about!


43 posted on 08/31/2010 10:56:25 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Jmouse007

I understand what you are saying. Maybe he was being PC, but to me, there is one true living God to Whom we should pray.
God Bless you.


44 posted on 08/31/2010 10:56:30 AM PDT by Chong (How's that HopEy, changEy, (thingEy) stuff working out for ya?)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Please LISTEN to the recorded prayer for yourself: He begins by using the singular term for God THREE TIMES then he switches to the plural for no good reason and uses the term “gods” (which is heresey) SEVEN or EIGHT times for the remainder of the prayer.


45 posted on 08/31/2010 10:57:43 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

I’m with you on this. George Washington talked about Divine intervention by God. He didn’t say anything about “gods” nor did he pray to Allah.

If honor is to be restored to this nation we need to follow the example of the founding fathers. And there wasn’t a muslim among them. This political correctness asking all religions to pray is not going to help this country. I don’t think praying to the “great wind god” will have much of an effect. It sure didn’t help the Indians keep their lands when they were fighting the U.S. Army.


46 posted on 08/31/2010 10:59:59 AM PDT by Terry Mross (o)
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To: Jmouse007
Yes, there seems to be a “s” at the end of his reference to God. But after listening to his prayer, his references about God were consistently singular. I'm not convinced he was purposely making a reference to multiple “god's” but more an inflection in his speech.
47 posted on 08/31/2010 11:00:50 AM PDT by rjamesca (Been there, done that . . .)
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To: Jmouse007

I’m thinking it is a verbal tic and nothing more.


48 posted on 08/31/2010 11:01:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: jimt

I get you JT.

I, myself, have more faith that MY God is the one true God than to have to verbally berate those of other faiths 24/7. Might as well call them all “Infidels.”

Although I always get a kick out of the term “heathen.” LOL


49 posted on 08/31/2010 11:01:48 AM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: rogue yam

Hmm, after watching that video and that excellent presentation of the facts regarding the establishment clause, I can now see that the pastor purposely added an “s” at the end of some use of ‘god’, even making overly emphatic pronunciation of same. Why do you suppose he did that in a prayer from a supposed Christian dedicating the rally for renewal?


50 posted on 08/31/2010 11:02:01 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dem voters, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when deceived.)
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To: Jmouse007
I remember hearing this during the prayer and trying to figure out if it was a dialect or impediment thing. I started listening closely to other words ending in D, and I recall hearing the same funny "s" sound on one of them. Alas, at work on lunch and streaming is blocked, so I can't re-find it.

It certainly wasn't a Mormon prayer style, though.

51 posted on 08/31/2010 11:02:31 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: Jmouse007

I suspect you have a BEAM in your eye....

Way to much protesting for a gathering with that many relgious demonations.


52 posted on 08/31/2010 11:04:42 AM PDT by Robbin (If Sarah isnÂ’t welcome, IÂ’m not welcome, itÂ’s just that simpleÂ…)
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To: Jmouse007

I listen to Beck’s radio program on a fairly regular basis. He talks about “God” (no “s”) all the time. You’re really working at this too hard...knitting is a good hobby.


53 posted on 08/31/2010 11:04:47 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: pappyone

Then there’s the folks that declared the “War of Nothern Agression” on the South...Philadephia comes to mind:

“youse” as in “Hey, youse gods.”

(pronounced yoose, but sorry, punctuation in youse, if any, fails to come to mind)


54 posted on 08/31/2010 11:04:51 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Jmouse007

Listen,
Here’s the guys church:
http://www.tntchurch.net/
Senior Pastor:
Dr. Paul Jehle, Ed.D

Why don’t you email him and ask him to clarify what he said. If he is a “all gods are one” type guy, he’s probably not going to hid it.

Rather than speculate, just ask the guy.


55 posted on 08/31/2010 11:05:52 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Jmouse007
Here are the lyrics to the Mormon hymn "Praise to the Man." Note the reference to "Gods" in the refrain.

A recording of the hymn--by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir--is available here.

Praise to the Man

(William W. Phelps, 1844)

Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus anointed that prophet and seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Refrain:
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his memory, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assassins,
Stain Illinois while the earth lauds his fame.

Refrain

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood:
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true, he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Refrain

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know "brother Joseph" again.

56 posted on 08/31/2010 11:07:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Jmouse007

All is forgiven. Now can I go vote the Dhimmi-crats out in November?


57 posted on 08/31/2010 11:08:52 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Jmouse007

Psssst. Not everybody in America believes exactly as you do on the subject of religion. Not every gathering of conservatives is an evangelical revival meeting. Pass it on.


58 posted on 08/31/2010 11:09:22 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"You" can be singular or plural depending on CONTEXT if he is praying to "gods" he can use you in reference to plural "gods".

As for the "tic" I don't hear it. The problem is Pastor Jehles has no problem saying "God" over and over again the first three times he uses the term. There is no Sssss, no "gods", no tic. He also does not appear to have a problem adding Ssss onto other singular words other than the word "God" in his prayer. This leads me to believe that his choice of the term "gods" was intentional.

59 posted on 08/31/2010 11:09:58 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007

I was there and thought he was saying gods, but just figured it was some kind of speech impediment.


60 posted on 08/31/2010 11:11:44 AM PDT by crosshairs (If I agreed with a liberal, then we would BOTH be wrong.)
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