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Texas could vote on referendum to secede from the United States this spring
msn.com ^ | 12/16/2023 | Carl Gibson

Posted on 12/19/2023 4:40:22 PM PST by eastexsteve

Leaders of the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM) — which openly calls for the Lone Star State to secede from the United States and become an independent nation again — appear to have surpassed the threshold to put a secession ballot initiative on the 2024 Republican primary ballot this March..

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bs; democrats; headfake; nonsense; secession; signatures; texas
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To: eastexsteve

It would make more sense to wait and see if the Federal election is rigged again.


61 posted on 12/19/2023 6:58:23 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: maddog55

“”Never happens...they’d still need approval by both houses of Congress and 3/4 of the states.””

Nobody will be asking permission...

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62 posted on 12/19/2023 7:07:31 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: eastexsteve

Bring it on!


63 posted on 12/19/2023 7:08:40 PM PST by bgill
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To: Nik Naym

It’s the precinct map from 2016. A lot of those S Texas counties switched to Trump in 2020.


64 posted on 12/19/2023 7:22:24 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: maddog55

Ignoring U.S. law, in order to eschew U.S. law, makes Congress a tad irrelevant.


65 posted on 12/19/2023 7:44:54 PM PST by thescourged1
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To: eastexsteve

Deo Vindice !!!!!!


66 posted on 12/19/2023 7:52:47 PM PST by BrexitBen
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To: eastexsteve

The biggest hurdle is that with gutless RINOS like Dade Phelan, (SotH), Abbott and Patrick, the chances of this seeing the light of day are slim to none.


67 posted on 12/19/2023 8:59:29 PM PST by txeagle
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To: ansel12

The bigger question is who is going to ship all the Californians from Texas? In my neck of the woods, we’re overrun with nest sh*tters.


68 posted on 12/19/2023 9:03:11 PM PST by txeagle
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To: TLI

Unfortunately, what they’ll take to their new abode is their relative conservatism....what passed as conservative in the state they abandoned is a far cry from red state conservatism.


69 posted on 12/19/2023 9:04:50 PM PST by txeagle
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To: txeagle

Jim Robinson—”No f-bombs. No c-words, no sh-words, etc. Not even masked.”


70 posted on 12/19/2023 9:14:52 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: txeagle

“”what passed as conservative in the state they abandoned is a far cry from red state conservatism.””

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They can learn.

What might actually trip them up would be the mandatory firearm ownership laws.

If they meet the residency requirements of 18 years prior to enactment they should be allowed to take the loyalty oath.

If they are just arriving from out of the country it will be eight years continuous residence, property owner and passing the Republic of Texas Citizenship exam with a score of at least 80% correct answers out of 100 questions and a reviewed essay of 2500 words minimum THEN they will be allowed to take the loyalty oath.

Gaining citizenship in the Republic of Texas will be serious business and no, not everyone will make the grade.

If they don’t make it there will be no voting in any elections and no government benefits of any kind, what few that will actually exist.

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71 posted on 12/19/2023 9:56:59 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: eastexsteve

This would destroy our country.


72 posted on 12/19/2023 10:00:21 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: Coronal
If Texas secedes, then they cannot vote in federal elections.

Many people without U.S. citizenship have been voting in U.S. elections in recent years. It's not that they cannot vote. It's that they may not vote legally. It's become an unimportant matter of late, especially if they vote for the "right" candidate.
73 posted on 12/19/2023 10:03:07 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
At least there’s one sensible state.
Get out before the whole thing collapses into ruin.


Well SCOTUS refused to hear the Texas v. Pennsylvania brought under its original jurisdiction, and that was constitutionally required to have been heard. So, there was a breach of contract by SCOTUS. By seceding, Texas could finally secure its border without getting grief from the elitist federal courts.
74 posted on 12/19/2023 10:09:50 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: ridesthemiles

Only Texas can articulate why it has the option, the power, to secede.

IIRC, it was part of the negotiations by which Texas became a U.S. state to begin with. And it appears in the law by which Congress declared Texas a state.


75 posted on 12/19/2023 10:43:21 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Levy78

And who gets to keep Fort Hood?


76 posted on 12/19/2023 11:05:51 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Well SCOTUS refused to hear the Texas v. Pennsylvania brought under its original jurisdiction, and that was constitutionally required to have been heard.

That point is in dispute.

77 posted on 12/19/2023 11:17:14 PM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
That point is in dispute.

No, it's not:
"Public ministers of every class, are the immediate representatives of their sovereigns. All questions in which they are concerned, are so directly connected with the public peace, that as well for the preservation of this, as out of respect to the sovereignties they represent, it is both expedient and proper, that such questions should be submitted in the first instance to the highest judicatory of the nation. "

The Federalist No. 81, [28 May 1788]
78 posted on 12/20/2023 12:08:34 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

The Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers are great reads.

But they are not law.


79 posted on 12/20/2023 12:28:39 AM PST by Fury
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To: eastexsteve

I hated living there when I did, but if they secede, it would be the only country I would immigrate to


80 posted on 12/20/2023 1:24:07 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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