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Replica of ancient ship to follow part of Argonauts' route
The Star (Myanmar) ^ | Sunday June 15, 2008 | unattributed

Posted on 06/16/2008 3:02:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

A replica of the Argo, the ship that according to legend carried Jason and the 50 Argonauts in search of the Golden Fleece, sailed Saturday from the central Greek city of Volos on a two-month journey to Venice in Italy.

Turkey's refusal to guarantee the 93.5-foot (28.5-meter) wooden ship safe passage through the Bosporus Strait meant that the ship will not reach its ancient predecessor's destination of Colchis, in what is modern-day Georgia, at the eastern end of the Black Sea. Its route, instead, will retrace part of the Argonauts' return trip...

The ship's crew comprises 50 oarsmen with another 22 on standby on a ship following the Argo, said Vangelis Constantinou, a spokesman for the project...

The ship was built according to known designs for warships during the Mycenaean era. The Argonauts' trip is said to have taken place in the 14th century BC, almost 200 years before the Trojan war. The ship includes a ram, used to attack and sink enemy ships.

The trip is scheduled to end in Venice on August 11.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com.my ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; argonauts; colchis; freepun; godsgravesglyphs; goldenfleece; jason; navigation
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"Turkey's refusal to guarantee the 93.5-foot (28.5-meter) wooden ship safe passage through the Bosporus Strait meant that the ship will not reach its ancient predecessor's destination of Colchis..."
1 posted on 06/16/2008 3:02:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Centuries after Jason mythed the boat, another team has a go
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2 posted on 06/16/2008 3:03:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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3 posted on 06/16/2008 3:04:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m not surprised Turkey would refuse to allow passage. The ship is a hazard to navigation.


4 posted on 06/16/2008 3:06:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SunkenCiv
"Turkey's refusal to guarantee the 93.5-foot (28.5-meter) wooden ship safe passage through the Bosporus Strait meant that the ship will not reach its ancient predecessor's destination of Colchis..."

Don 't worry, they'll make it.


5 posted on 06/16/2008 3:09:24 PM PDT by Krankor (N)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Knock, knock.”
“Who’s there?”
“Argo.”
“Argo who?”
“Arr go jump in the lake!”


6 posted on 06/16/2008 3:09:49 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("One look in the mirror and I'm tickled pink, I don't give a hoot about what you think.")
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To: 1rudeboy

So the boat is just too slow and would hold up traffic too long in that busiest of straits?


7 posted on 06/16/2008 3:13:38 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju
A lot of oil passes through the Straits on tankers heading west. An accident would shut it down and the consequences would be enormous. The Turks are anal about it, but deservedly so.

I just don't see how you can let some nerds simply row on through . . . the Bosporus is less than a half mile wide in places.

8 posted on 06/16/2008 3:25:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SunkenCiv

It would really be cool if they fight a cyclops along the way.


9 posted on 06/16/2008 3:40:22 PM PDT by max americana
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh please.

Have you ever seen what passes for a ship on the Bosporus?!

“Other” politics are at play here.


10 posted on 06/16/2008 4:10:12 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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To: aristotleman
Politics that are so "other," that apparently you cannot share. In any case,


11 posted on 06/16/2008 4:21:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m not talking about those ships I’m talking about the crappy ones that fishermen use from the 1940s the ones that can break/do break all the time, common to all the mediterranean ports.

Or the crappy cruise liners that nearly kill people daily.

I don’t want to get into the “other” politics, I just showered and don’t have the patience to roll in the mud right now.


12 posted on 06/16/2008 4:30:27 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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To: 1rudeboy
I don't know the subtleties of nautical-type language, but the story doesn't say the Turks refused passage. It says they refused to guarantee safe passage. That sounds more like "paddle at your own risk." Am I missing something?

It would seem to me that a toy boat like the Argo could hug the shore and stay out of the shipping lanes. Would the wake of passing ships be a problem? Perhaps insurance carriers objected?

13 posted on 06/16/2008 5:35:15 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx
I read it to mean that the Turks just don't want to deal with the hassle. Here is an interesting link describing the challenges.
14 posted on 06/16/2008 5:57:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: max americana

:’) Different epic, but still funny.


15 posted on 06/16/2008 6:01:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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:’D I just hope they don’t wind up poop side down.


16 posted on 06/16/2008 6:03:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ah yes. Jason and the 50 Argonauts.

I saw them in concert once with my pal Homer. Homer didn’t see them, but he definitely heard them. He said they sounded better than The Sirens. How would he know, if he was telling the truth?

(ancient myth trivia quiz)


17 posted on 06/16/2008 6:13:08 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

;’)


18 posted on 06/16/2008 7:14:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: max americana
That was Sinbad. Jason fought,Talos,Harpies,The Hydra and Skeleton Warriors. Ray Harryhausen won't mind. Both movies are classics!
19 posted on 06/16/2008 7:48:38 PM PDT by 4yearlurker ("Give them Watts boys!!")
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To: SunkenCiv

The paranoid Parastate of turkey’s constant state of insecurity pops up during the most interesting of events.

Muslim Turks have turned the Bosporus into the most polluted waterways in the world and the City or Constantinople - once the most beautiful of cities - into a hellish polluted dirty place.


20 posted on 06/17/2008 8:24:48 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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