Ancient migration: Coming to America

Nature ^ | 02 May 2012 | Adam Curry

[Theoria]

For decades, scientists thought that the Clovis hunters were the first to cross the Arctic to America. They were wrong — and now they need a better theory

The mastodon was old, its teeth worn to nubs. It was perfect prey for a band of hunters, wielding spears tipped with needle-sharp points made from bone. Sensing an easy target, they closed in for the kill.

Almost 14,000 years later, there is no way to tell how many hits it took to bring the beast to the ground near the coast of present-day Washington state. But at least one struck home, plunging through hide, fat and flesh to lodge in the mastodon's rib. The hunter who thrust the spear on that long-ago day didn't just bring down the mastodon; he also helped to kill off the reigning theory of how people got to the Americas.

For most of the past 50 years, archaeologists thought they knew how humans arrived in the New World. The story starts around the end of the last ice age, when sea levels were lower and big-game hunters living in eastern Siberia followed their prey across the Bering land bridge and into Alaska. As the ice caps in Canada receded and opened up a path southward, the colonists swept across the vast unpopulated continent. Archaeologists called these presumed pioneers the Clovis culture, after distinctive stone tools that were found at sites near Clovis, New Mexico, in the 1920s and 1930s.

As caches of Clovis tools were uncovered across North America over subsequent decades, nearly all archaeologists signed on to the idea that the Clovis people were the first Americans. Any evidence of humans in the New World before the Clovis time was dismissed, sometimes harshly.

[blam]

"Do you have any links? I went looking using a dogpile metasearch, but didn’t find anything, then it was two in the morning... "

Vintage Skulls

The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas.

Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.

Who Were The Si-Te-Cah

[Elsie]

So are two braincells to rub together!

[Elsie]

He even tried to sell it at one point as a novel.

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• Preface to the Book of Mormon 1830 Ed.

  PREFACE.

  TO THE READER—

  As many false reports have been circulated respecting the following work, and also many unlawful measures taken by the evil designing persons to destroy me, and also the work, I would inform you that I translated, by the gift and power of God, and caused to be written, one hundred and sixteen pages, the which I took from the Book of Lehi, which was an account abridged from the plates of Lehi, by the hand of Mormon; which said account, some person or persons have stolen and kept from me, notwithstanding my utmost exertions to recover it again—and being commanded of the Lord that I should not translate the same over again, for Satan had put it into their hearts to tempt the Lord their God, by altering the words, that they did read contrary from that which I translated and caused to be written; and if I should bring forth the same words again, or, in other words, if I should translate the same over again, they would publish that which they had stolen, and Satan would stir up the hearts of this generation, that they might not receive this work: but behold, the Lord said unto me, I will not suffer that Satan shall accomplish his evil design in this thing: therefore thou shalt translate from the plates of Nephi, until ye come to that which ye have translated, which ye have retained; and behold ye shall publish it as the record of Nephi; and thus I will confound those who have altered my words. I will not suffer that they shall destroy my work; yea, I will shew unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the Devil. Wherefore, to be obedient unto the commandments of God, I have, through his grace and mercy, accomplished that which he hath commanded me respecting this thing. I would also inform you that the plates of which hath been spoken, were found in the township of Manchester, Ontario county, New-York.

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[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

**the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old.***

But, but L S B Leaky, the patron saint of African evolution, visited the Americas and declared some stone tools to be close to 200,000 years old! No one challenged him on it!

Oh dear ,who to believe, who to believe.

[Elsie]

And the Obamaites said to the Lamanites, “WHAT!!? Our dinner is being hugged by the COOK???”

[Lazamataz]

The Soloutrean hypothesis

....is that people DANCED TO AMERICA!!!

[Elsie]

Elizabeth Warren's great, great granny was also partying with them that day.

Uh-huh!

This proves you was sittin' on yer butt today, listenin' to RUSH, instead of ridin' the Orange Beast, rounding up all them weeds to get rid of!

[Utah Binger]

Susan Binger is in charge of the weeds. I'm just back from Kanab Custom meats where I got two full tenderloins in preparation for Saturday night's big dinner for the WOW group of about thirty women artists from all over the west.

[Utah Binger]

I should have pinged Lazamataz to get a bit of help with the WOW group.

[blam]

"But, but L S B Leaky, the patron saint of African evolution, visited the Americas and declared some stone tools to be close to 200,000 years old! No one challenged him on it! "

An article I posted eleven years ago:

Calico: A 200,000-year Old Site In The Americas?

[1010RD]

Check Noah’s Ark again. Look at the specs. The “Arks” that have been built aren’t to the specifications laid out by God.

[1010RD]

Noah’s ark was built in the nearly same fashion as the Jeridite ships and it did have a miraculous light for interior lighting. The entire Ark story from the OT is a series of incredible miracles. Nothing is impossible to God.

[1010RD]

So is it his PhD or that he taught people who are on ships that lends gravitas to what he wrote?

You don’t see any monomania in your hijacking an interesting thread to fulfill your anti-Mormon vendetta?

Who is Kent Poder that his opinion should count? What else has he written on?

[1010RD]

They have to because if the allow for any continuing migration it upends their carefully crafted view of aboriginals as victim as opposed to displacers.

[colorado tanker]

And perhaps not. Joseph had, at best, a third grade education. Many of his early followers were noted for being even less academically sophisticated; Sidney Rigdon may have completed one or two years of elementary school and Brigham Young was illiterate.

The women couldn't have been very bright or how else did those dirty old men talk them into agreeing to polygamy?

[Elsie]

Get Laz in with that bunch and he’ll come out looking like a Pollock canvas!

[Elsie]

Who is Kent Poder that his opinion should count?

Who is Joseph Smith that his opinion should count?

Who is Brigham Young that his opinion should count?

Who is Thomas Monson that his opinion should count?

[dsc]

Thank you for the assistance.

[dsc]

Thank you for the assistance.

[reaganaut]

Google is your friend. I was making an aside. While there is proof for Biblical archeology (both old and new testaments) there is still ZERO evidence for Mormon archeology. Deal with it.