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Fossils point to ancient ape-monkey split
Science News ^ | May 15, 2013 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 05/18/2013 3:37:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The oldest known fossils of an ape and a monkey have been uncovered, providing an intriguing glimpse of a crucial time in primate evolution.

The discoveries suggest that by 25 million years ago, two major groups of primates were distinct: one that today includes apes and humans and another that encompasses Old World monkeys such as baboons and macaques. Previous studies using living primates’ DNA suggested that ancient apes and Old World monkeys parted from a common ancestor between 25 million and 30 million years ago.

The new ape and monkey fossils, from Tanzania’s Rukwa Rift Basin, suggest that the evolutionary split between these primate lines must have occurred close to 30 million years ago, or perhaps even earlier, anthropologist Nancy Stevens of Ohio University in Athens and her colleagues conclude in the May 15 Nature...

Her team assigns a tooth-bearing lower right jaw to a new ape genus and species, Rukwapithecus fleaglei. The scientists classify a second find, a jaw fragment containing a tooth, as a new monkey genus and species, Nsungwepithecus gunnelli.

These animals lived 25.2 million years ago, based on age estimates of volcanic ash layers that sandwiched the Tanzanian fossils.

Rukwapithecus may not be a new ape genus, though. The newly discovered jaw appears to belong to Rangwapithecus, an ape genus previously known from East African fossils dating to around 17 million years ago, says anthropologist K. Christopher Beard of the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; nsungwepithecus; paleontology; primatology; rangwapithecus; rukwapithecus

subtitled, "African finds offer peek at a pivotal moment in primate evolution".
LONG-GONE PRIMATES Using new fossils and previously recovered remains of related creatures, an artist created portraits of an ape (left) and a monkey (right) that inhabited East Africa 25 million years ago. Mauricio Antón

Mauricio Antón

1 posted on 05/18/2013 3:37:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 05/18/2013 3:38:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Please allow me to introduce myself, I’m a prosimian of wealth and taste.


3 posted on 05/18/2013 3:44:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I been around for a long long time.


4 posted on 05/18/2013 3:50:26 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: cripplecreek
nothing like a high technology social life to give you what you need ~ to impress the girls ~ but at some point these apes and monkeys were still mutually fertile, which means, lo and behold, there can be other apelike lines we don't know about yet.

That's probably where we come in ~ way back there ~ and due to happenstance and design changes we lost our first article constructs ~ now some think we're just modified chimps rather than quite possibly modified monkeys.

I'm voting for the monkeys. That's based on my experience with the internet ~ people toss poo all over the place ~ definitely monkey-like behavior!

5 posted on 05/18/2013 3:52:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
there can be other apelike lines we don't know about yet

we are all over the cyberjungle

6 posted on 05/18/2013 3:57:10 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: muawiyah

I’m hoping octopi and squid rise to take our place. They have surprising intelligence and amazing manipulative dexterity.


7 posted on 05/18/2013 3:58:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SunkenCiv
"In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."

-Beck

8 posted on 05/18/2013 4:07:00 PM PDT by SIDENET
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To: SunkenCiv

Obama points to an ape-lizard reconnection.


9 posted on 05/18/2013 4:18:11 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama's Chechens are coming home...to roost.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No pics of Michelle Obama yet? Freepers are slacking off.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 4:32:33 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: cripplecreek; Conspiracy Guy

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/monkeys.wav


11 posted on 05/18/2013 4:34:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: muawiyah
"I'm voting for the monkeys. That's based on my experience with the internet ~ people toss poo all over the place ~ definitely monkey-like behavior!"

If you want real intense poo flinging, you're better off looking toward the hippo family:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKQ3ZNQ_O8

12 posted on 05/18/2013 4:40:24 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Excellent~


13 posted on 05/18/2013 4:42:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3021147/posts ~ wherein is announced that Ardi’s hips had a combo of hominid and monkey design features. What I said ~


14 posted on 05/18/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BenLurkin

LOL


15 posted on 05/18/2013 4:49:08 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The split is still evident in modern times...

The Kinks - Apeman 1970

Monkey Man - The Rolling Stones

16 posted on 05/18/2013 5:37:52 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SunkenCiv

When the newest next, makes the dna jump- well then, that’ll be an insight. Until then,... “fare thee well...”


17 posted on 05/19/2013 8:54:55 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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