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Neanderthals talked like us half a million years ago and could even have shaped today's language
Daily Mail ^ | 10 July 2013 | SARAH GRIFFITHS

Posted on 07/10/2013 9:30:34 AM PDT by Pharmboy

[Note: headline edited slightly in order to fit]

Origins of modern language are ten times older than thought and could date back half a million years, according to Dutch researchers

It contradicts the popular idea that our modern language began with a sudden emergence of modernity presumably due to one or a few genetic mutations that gave rise to language

The scientists claim that far from being slow brutes, Neanderthals' cognitive capacities and culture were comparable to ours

Dutch researchers have claimed that our modern language can be traced back to stone age man - ten times older than previously thought

Our modern language can be traced back to Neanderthals living half a million years ago, scientists have claimed. Research increasingly seems to indicate that our close cousins, the Neanderthals, were much more similar to us than imagined even a decade ago.

Dutch researchers argue that the last common ancestor we shared with the Neanderthals around half a million years ago, shared speech and language with modern humans. They believe that the origins of out modern language are ten times older than previously thought. The scientists at the Max Planck Institute in the Netherlands are interested in the implications for understanding present day linguistic diversity. Popular opinion is that they spoke in primitive grunts, but Neanderthal man successfully inhabited vast swathes of western Eurasia for several hundreds of thousands of years, during harsh ages and milder interglacial periods.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; humanevolution; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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To: Jack Hammer

I wonder what the first word was??? Or sentence??? “bring me a beer honey”....or “Nice tatas on that narnook”


21 posted on 07/10/2013 10:42:21 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: donmeaker
"Neandertals had larger brains than ‘modern’ man."

Proof of deevolution. Man isn't coming from the apes. He's going to them.

22 posted on 07/10/2013 10:42:30 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Pharmboy

We are Neanderthals.


23 posted on 07/10/2013 10:48:15 AM PDT by blam
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To: Pharmboy

speculation on speculation on speculation, not science


24 posted on 07/10/2013 10:55:32 AM PDT by Wuli (qu)
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To: Pharmboy

Only problem is the earth is only tens of thousands years old.


25 posted on 07/10/2013 10:56:21 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Pharmboy
Ah yes...”Stranger in a Strange Land.” One of my favorite books from high school days. It was the only thing that came to mind. Thanks!

Not one of my favorite Heinlein novels (I prefer the juveniles), but still better than 99.9% of what's written these days...

26 posted on 07/10/2013 11:00:54 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Pharmboy

The headline is a bit misleading; while there were humans with proto-Neanderthal traits as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago, Neanderthals as such didn’t exist until approximately 135,000 years ago.


27 posted on 07/10/2013 11:00:54 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Pharmboy

This is a very poorly written article. This article is very poorly written. Very poorly written is this article. Very poorly this article is written. Written very poorly, this article is.


28 posted on 07/10/2013 11:00:56 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Wuli

they even spoke cursive


29 posted on 07/10/2013 11:01:43 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Pharmboy

“I say old chap, you seem to have a piece os mastadon stuck in your teeth, by jove!”


30 posted on 07/10/2013 11:06:22 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Born to Conserve

It ain’t wrote right by the writer, right?


31 posted on 07/10/2013 11:07:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: GeronL

lol


32 posted on 07/10/2013 11:08:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Pharmboy

It seems to me that I knew this. Wouldn’t there be physical and brain changes that evolved along with growing language use? That takes a long time. As long as we’re speculating anyway.


33 posted on 07/10/2013 11:09:03 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Rebelbase

She does NOT look like a Neanderthal or a cave...person.

More like Jabba’s sister.


34 posted on 07/10/2013 11:11:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lancey Howard

I can only imagine what they would be saying????

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WBfnHvcQobM/Ttu0fjPQYlI/AAAAAAAAZfI/Wha4r76jNlM/s1600/welch-one-million-years.jpg


35 posted on 07/10/2013 11:15:46 AM PDT by scotts8826
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To: Pharmboy
Neanderthals talked like us half a million years ago and could even have shaped today's language

Yo true dat fo sho.

36 posted on 07/10/2013 11:19:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: blam

Well, 23andme says I am 2.7% Neanderthal, just above the 2.6% average for the group of northern Euros it has me in. And from the looks of their groupings, this does not mean Scandinavian, since I do not have that blood in me; what they seem to mean is not Italian, Spanish or Greek (I guess).


37 posted on 07/10/2013 12:44:43 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Wuli

I agree, but it is interesting nonetheless, and allows for a very funny FR thread.


38 posted on 07/10/2013 12:46:01 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: from occupied ga

The funny thing is, Africans have no Neanderthal genes in them at all; only Euros and Asians; Asians have the most, up to 4%. There never were any Neanders in Africa.


39 posted on 07/10/2013 12:49:40 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

40 posted on 07/10/2013 1:54:36 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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