Skip to comments.Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)
Posted on 07/03/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT by SE Mom
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of fraudulent Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears.
The evidence of forgery and manipulation of images of official documents, triggered by Israel Insider's revelation of the collection of Hawaii birth certificate images on the Photobucket site and the detective work of independent investigative journalists and imaging professionals in the three weeks since the publication of the images, implicate the Daily Kos, an extreme left blog site, and the Obama campaign, in misleading the public with official-looking but manipulated document images of doubtful provenance.
The perceived unreliability of the image has provoked petitions and widespread demands for Obama to submit for objective inspection the paper versions of the "birth certificate" he claimed in his book Dreams from My Father was in his possession, as well as the paper version of the Certificate of Live Birth for which the image on the Daily Kos and the Obama "Fight the Smears" website was supposedly generated.
Without a valid birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he fulfills the "natural born citizen" requirement of the Constitution, throwing into doubt his eligibility to run for President.
McKinnon, who says he is 25-30 years old, operates a website called OpenDNA.com and uses the OpenDNA screen name on various web sites and blogs, including his comments and diary on The Daily Kos. In recent years he has divided his time between Long Beach, California and Vancouver, British Columbia. He is a Democratic political activist, frequent contributor to the left wing Daily Kos blog, and a fervent Barack Obama supporter.
(Excerpt) Read more at web.israelinsider.com ...
In September 1960, Castro led a delegation to New York City to address the United Nations General Assembly. He and his entourage caused an immediate sensation by deciding to stay at the Theresa Hotel in Harlem. While there, Castro met with a number of African-American leaders, including Malcolm X from the Nation of Islam and the poet Langston Hughes. On September 26, Castro delivered a blistering attack on what he termed American “aggression” and “imperialism.” For over four hours, Castro lambasted U.S. policy toward Cuba and other nations in Latin America, Asia, and Africa. The United States, he declared, had “decreed the destruction” of his revolutionary government...
Percy Sutton video. I have never understood his special interest in obama...why would he help a young man he did not know, the son of a Kenyan goat-herder (LOL!) get into Harvard?
Excellent point, Fred Nerks
Why would Percy Sutton, Malcolm X’s lawyer, be interested in helping Obama?
I also recall seeing another photo of Malcolm X and Castro together. This photo is a different one than I remember.
Mystery Ranch Ping.
See Post #7008
Forgot to add at #7008 that I think that is a spoof photo.
It must be from a site where they photoshop!!
This may be a good time to remind ourselves of the statement apparently made by the obama lawyers:
“...Obama’s lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would cause a defined and serious injury to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a legitimate privacy concern and the above mentioned risk that particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation. The source of that embarrassment was not specified...
I’m asking - could that embarrassment be connected to paternity issues?
forgot to ping you:
>>This may be a good time to remind ourselves of the statement apparently made by the obama lawyers:
...Obamas lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would cause a defined and serious injury to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a legitimate privacy concern and the above mentioned risk that particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation. The source of that embarrassment was not specified...>>>>
Also, why would it “cause a defined and serious injury “ to Obama and/or the DNC?
The DNC??? What would that matter? Obama was a rogue, unvetted candidate that basically campaigned outside of the DNC. Howard Dean didn’t even vet him, Pelosi signed the form.
Can she do that legally????
The embarrassment is probably connected to paternity and BC issue problem.
This has a somewhat detailed chronology for Malcolm X
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Charles T. Payne, 83, a great uncle to Sen Barack Obama, D-III, is seen during an interview with ... Chicagos library. Payne is proud of his great-nephew, ...
Uncle Charlie proud of Obama
Attention of flub astonishing
CHICAGO, July 24, (AP): Charles T. Payne had his first close brush with his¬tory at the end of World War II, when his infantry division liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of the Nazis Buchenwald concentration camp in eastern Germany.
Now 83, Payne is experiencing a sec¬ond brush as the great-uncle of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Payne spoke to The Associated Press on Tuesday as Obama, on the other side of the world, prepared to visit the Yad Vashem national Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem.
In May, Obama mentioned Uncle Charlie at a meeting with veterans but mistakenly said Payne had helped liber¬ate Auschwitz, when he should have said Buchenwald. Bloggers seized on the error and the Republican Party demanded an explanation.
Obamas campaign corrected the mistake the next day. Soviet forces lib-erated Auschwitz as they marched across Poland in January 1945.
Payne, with an Obama button pinned to his shirt, told the AP he was truly astonished by the attention
paid to Obamas flub. The brother of Obamas maternal grandmother, Payne figures Obama heard the story wrong from his grandparents, whose grasp of geography wasnt always the firmest. He said at the time he asked friends if he should try to set the record straight, but that they advised him to ignore it.
Payne said he didnt want to say any-thing to embarrass the Obama cam¬paign and minimized his role in the lib-eration of Ohrdruf.
I have no heroic story to tell, he said. I was just there.
He had seen plenty of death during his two years in the Army, but the cru¬elty of what he witnessed at Ohrdruf appalled him. In the courtyard, he saw lying dead a circle of the inmates in their rags, and you could see they were mostly near starvation. They were there with their tin cups like they were called to get food, then had been machine gunned.
In a shed, he saw bodies stacked like cord wood. The survivors, many near starvation, were nothing but just skin
over bones with nothing, no flesh at all. He said the 1993 movie Schindlers List was very good, but it didnt begin to show the desperate plight of the prisoners. I guess in real life you cant really starve people next to death in order to make a movie.
After the war, Payne went to college in Kansas and then to graduate school at the University of Chicago, where Obama would later lecture on constitu¬tional law. He later became interested in computers and how they could be used in libraries. He retired at age 70 as assistant director of the University of Chicagos library.
Payne is proud of his great-nephew, who is prominently displayed in family photos.
Hes truly an astounding young man and always has been, he said.
As attention turns to the Holocaust with Obamas expected visit to the Israeli memorial on Wednesday, Payne reflected on the lessons of history.
Clearly to me its proof that theres no limit to what a man will do to man and what government out of control will do, he said. I guess we need to be on our guard eternally.
Has it ever been determined where Stanley Ann was when the fall semester at UH started in 1960?
Could she have been in NY?
Castro speaking about Malcolm X
This event was September 1960 when Castro visited the UN.
“....I always remember when I met with Malcolm X at the hotel “Teresa”, because he was the one who gave us support and made it possible for us to be accommodated there. We had two choices: one was the patio in the United Nations; when I told this to the Secretary General he was horrified at the thought of a delegation camping in tents there; and then we received Malcolm X’s offer, he had talked to one of our comrades, and I said: “That is the place, Hotel ‘Teresa’.” And there we went, so I have personal memories of him. ...”
At some point...one of the dots will suddenly not connect to the natural next part of the story...because we are going to find out bits that arent part of the legend. The birth certificate would readily identify his birthdate....which a number of people are now believing that its in the April/May timeframe....not August...which would mean that Stanley Ann was preg before they came to Hawaii.
Did she visit during the summers? Perhaps that is why she wanted to go there. Surely she had visited the campus prior to applying. Was Chicago a place she was already comfortable with? Having been accepted to the University of Chicago, Stanley would not allow it. Wonder why? The distance or the company she might keep?
Always more questions than answers, but sooner or later that one nugget will glisten in the sunlight.
I agree, and thank you for your research and input, Stanley Ann having an Uncle at the U Chicago explains much as to why she made application to go there. An application that she would have made in person, after her graduation. With her marxist education and background, the events at the UN in September 1960, with Castro and Krushchev at the UN would have been a huge drawcard for her, I believe. It's perhaps no wonder then that her schoolfriend said she lost track of Stanley Ann after graduation. Stanley Ann may have been in Chicago and New York.
Malcolm X's mother & father (from PBS)
Ping to #7,011 and read to bottom of page; don’t miss #7,014 or the question at #7,016.
Was Stanley Ann impregnanted in Chicago? Does this place her in proximity of Malcolm X during the time of conception? Inquiring minds want to know.
It's a question that needs to be both asked and answered.
AND THAT SHOULD WORRY US WHY?
BTTT and place marker
Obviously a liberal-ass judge believes the DNC is more important than the damned Constitution!
BTW, the Obot Troll Patrol has heavily innvested several birther threads this evening. They must have gotten a raise from "Ram Manual"
Will they pay their taxes?
As ‘private contractors’ they’re probably being paid in campaign cash and will not declare the money. Their motto is ‘laws for thee but not fro me’.
From what I have found during my months of research, Ann Dunham never applied to the University of Chicago, that was yet another myth passed on.
This sentence found in a really quick search notes there is no documentation that Ann ever applied to University of Chicago:
There is no documentation that she ever applied the University of Chicago.
Found at the following site:
As mentioned this was from a really quick search done before I start another job, if you wish I will find confirmation tomorrow.
Also from some searching today and earlier this evening I found that the student airlift left Kenya September 5, 1959 and spent a period of time(IIRC it as at least two weeks) orienting the students at a central location before they went on to the schools they would be attending. Knowing this means that UH had a late start to their school years.
Thanks for the ping.
Too many questions...The resemblance to Malcolm X is uncanny.
This guy’s life is like a fairy tale that has a bad ending.
It is much easier to put Ann in the same room with him. He was her teacher.
Kitty up until 23rd January has always paid her taxes.
As graduation neared for the class of 1960, Dunham had hoped to join many of her classmates at the University of Washington, and was also accepted to the University of Chicago, according to Obamas memoir, the best-selling Dreams from My Father.
There it is again. University of Chicago. from Dreams -I have not read the book, but Ill take odds that obama never mentioned her uncle was at that University.
Castro was at the UN September, 30, 1960.
Ping to #7,034.
Interesting stuff, thanks for the ping.
Also, i never paid attention (I guess) to the fact that the lawyers say that revealing what’s on the BC would cause harm etc not only to 0bama BUT TO THE DNC.
That absolutely has to mean eligibility, not just the wrong father.
Good night Irene! This Bozo looks like him, too!
And a black guy to boot. All the easier to “fool” BHO,Sr.
Months and months ago I believed that as time passed the emotional pain caused by this sack of garbage would be slightly minimized. (That thought always frightened me)
Anyway, the pain has only intensified.
Panic and a horrible knot in my stomach that won't go away.
Pregnancy was easier.
I'll keep praying. And thank you everyone for all the digging.
Madelyn, Ann, Jr and Maya visited Chicago the year Jr was 12. There is a picture on this thread of that visit and it shows Ann, Jr, and her Uncle Jon(the youngest Payne). From your earlier post Uncle Charlie retired from U of C in 1995, five years approximately, after Jr was offered his position there. In 1995 Jr and the Jackie wannabe went to Bali so he could “finish his book” but Jr never mentioned that he had an Uncle Charlie at the University.
There is no way of knowing if that information is true, since we know that much of the information in Jr’s book is not true. Examples of lies are his great grandmother comitting suicide, his grandfather being kicked out of school for punching the principal in the nose, his father was a king, his father left when he was two, his grandmother went to work in Hawaii to support the arrival of an unexpected baby, he had his own office and secretary while working at BIC, he was instrumental in having asbestos removed from the building in Chicago etc. etc. etc. If his “fairytale” were presented to a publisher today it would have to be labeled as fiction.
I did know about Castro being at the U.N. in 1960 and that Malcolm X met him while Castro was there.
If Castro was at the U.N. Sept 30, 1960 classes had already started at UH at Manoa as stated in the email from Stuart Lau, Ann attended the first semester when classes began Sept.26,1960.
I can think of quite a few more, but these are among my favorite "Dream-whoppers": the '60's Life magazine article about the black man bleaching his skin -- that was never written; listening to the Watergate hearings during their mainland vacation in the summer of '72 (the hearings were held in the summer of '73); one of his "earliest memories" of sitting on his GF's shoulders as the astronauts from one of the Apollo missions arrived at Hickam AFB after a successful splashdown (the manned Apollo missions didn't begin until '68, and the earliest ones involving fanfare at Hickham would be in the '70-72 time frame.) Then there's my all-time favorite as a native NY'r: sleeping in an alley, with his luggage, in Spanish Harlem on his first night in NYC, and waking up with a live chicken for company -- simply awesome!
Unfortunately, the book would still be accepted on an "as-is" basis today. Fact-checking is as non-existent in publishing nowadays as it is in other print media -- it's "what's hot" that counts. "Dreams" was stone cold when it was first released in '95, selling less than 10M copies (most of them probably to Barry's family), then rocketing off the charts upon the unveiling of the Obamessiah at the 2004 convention.
Robeson was under investigation for commie ties too. Had his passport pulled for a time period for travel to places like Cuba, Moscow and others. He was also friends with Kenyatta, namesake of Kenya.
Paul Robeson became known as a citizen of the world, as comfortable with the people of Moscow and Nairobi as with the people of Harlem. Wherever he traveled, Robeson championed the cause of the common person. Among his friends, he counted future African Leader Jomo Kenyatta, India's Nehru, anarchist Emma Goldman and writers James Joyce and Ernest Hemingway.
Citizen of the world, where have we heard that before???
We don’t have absolute proof that she was actually there on the first day of classes. She could have been traveling with parents and started later.
Just because the CLASSES started on Sept. 26, 1960 she might have physically started later. It happens all the time.
S. Sider Had 1st-Row View Of Real Story
Chicago Sun-Times - Sunday, November 8, 1992
Author: Lee Bey
Former Chicago schoolteacher Christine Johnson won’t go see the new Malcolm X movie premiering this month.
She doesn’t need to, she says: She was a friend of Malcolm X and had a front row seat to the last five years of his life.
“Yes, I knew him,” said Johnson, 83, a South Side resident. “Whenever Malcolm came to town, he would call me. I don’t know what Spike Lee has in his (movie) but everybody these days are saying `I knew Malcolm ,’ but they didn’t.”
Johnson, who changed her name to Catherine X during her stint with the Nation of Islam, met Malcolm X in New York in 1960 . He let Johnson set up black history exhibits at Nation of Islam events.
And when the organization needed a principal for its University of Islam, then located at 54th and Greenwood, Malcolm X selected Johnson.
They talked often by telephone between 1960 and Malcolm ‘s death in February, 1965, she said.
BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WORDS OF MALCOLM X ARE LEGACIES OF ‘60S 25 YEARS AFTER SLAYING, ACTIVIST IS HEARD ANEW
Detroit Free Press (MI) - Sunday, February 18, 1990
Author: CONSTANCE C. PRATER Free Press Staff Writer
Said Dr. Ali Mazrui, a former University of Michigan political science professor, “Some things are changing, but many of the evils are still there.” Mazrui, author and moderator of “The Africans,” the 1986 Public Broadcasting Service TV series, teaches at the State University of New York in Binghamton.
Mazrui said he met Malcolm X in 1960 , when the professor was a graduate student at Columbia University in New York.
Malcolm X ‘s Controversial Legacy ... Movie Sparks Eagerness, Anxiety
St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Sunday, November 15, 1992
Author: Lori Teresa Yearwood ; Of the Post-Dispatch Staff
Alice Windom, coordinator for the Bush Center for Law, Policy and Social Change at the University of Missouri-St. Louis, was among the activists who endorsed the letter of concern sent to Lee. She first met Malcolm X when she heard him speak at a Muslim mosque in Chicago in 1960 .
The way he spoke forced her to think about the reality of her life at age 24 - about how white landlords slammed doors in her face when she went apartment hunting because they ‘’didn’t rent to coloreds,’’ and about how she couldn’t try on hats in certain department stores because that was a privilege for whites alone.
‘’I just sat there and thought how proud I was that Malcolm was standing there and telling the truth, not sucking up to white people at all,’’ Windom said.
Two years later, Windom was so weary of life in America that she said she was ‘’just waiting for some white person to step on my foot so I could knock their head off.’’ She moved to Africa.
She crossed paths with Malcolm X again when he traveled to Ghana, in western Africa, to garner support in his effort to charge America with ‘’violating the human rights’’ of blacks.
Windom was working for the United Nations and helped him establish ties with officials in Ghana. The two became close friends.
‘’He was easy to talk to because he didn’t put on airs at all,’’ said Windom, now 56. ‘’It showed in the way he carried himself - not at all majestically - but rather in a lanky, imperfect way. He was 6 feet 4 inches, you know, but he wasn’t intimidating. He looked you in the eye and listened to what you said.’’
At night, Malcolm X often would gather Windom and other U.N. employees to talk about the condition of blacks in the United States. The civil rights leader had been separated from the Nation of Islam and was working to establish his own activist organizations, the Muslim Mosques Inc. and the Organization of Afro-American Unity.
SHABAZZ ACCUSED IN MURDER PLOT// MALCOLM X ‘S DAUGHTER HIRED HIT MAN TO KILL FARRAKHAN, U.S. SAYS
St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) - Friday, January 13, 1995
Author: BYLINE: Mike Sweeney, Staff Writer
One of the late Malcolm X ‘s daughters was released in her own recognizance Thursday in Minneapolis after she was indicted in an alleged plot to kill Louis Farrakhan, the controversial leader of the black separatist Nation of Islam.
Shabazz, 34, didn’t speak in her appearance before Lebedoff except to acknowledge she had seen the charges against her and to state her birth date - Dec. 25, 1960 .
Chicago Sun-Times - Sunday, November 8, 1992
Author: Lee Bey
May 19, 1925: Malcolm Little is born in Omaha, Neb., to Louise Little, a native of Grenada, and the Rev. Earl Little, a Georgia native.
1929: The Little home is burned down, apparently by racists. The family moves to East Lansing, Mich.
1931: Earl Little is murdered, presumably by a gang of whites.
1936: Louise Little is committed to a mental institution.
1940: Malcolm moves to Boston to live with an older half-sister.
1941: He moves to New York and works at Small’s Paradise Bar, where he meets a young Redd Foxx and becomes known as “Detroit Red.”
1943: Malcolm , immersed in the Harlem street scene, gets addicted to drugs and gambling and becomes a gun-toting hustler.
1946: He is sentenced to 10 years in prison for burglary.
1947: He learns about Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam while behind bars and sees a vision of the movement’s founder, Wallace D. Fard.
1952: Malcolm is paroled from prison, goes to Detroit to work in a furniture store and becomes active in the Nation of Islam, traveling to Chicago to visit Muhammad. Malcolm changes last name to “ X .”
1953: Malcolm X is named assistant minister of the nation’s Detroit Temple No. One.
1954: He starts temples in Philadelphia and Boston and then is sent to New York City.
1958: Malcolm X marries Betty X . Their first child, Attilah, is born.
1959: Nation of Islam becomes nationally known when a documentary, “The Hate That Hate Produced,” is aired.
1961: Malcolm X becomes spokesman for Elijah Muhammad.
1960 : Second daughter, Qubilah, is born.
1962: Third daughter, Ilyasah, is born.
1963: President John F. Kennedy is assassinated. Malcolm X tells reporters the killing was a case of the “chickens coming home to roost” and is silenced by Muhammad. Malcolm later explained he meant that the country’s hate had killed the president. After Malcolm X is isolated, he begins his own mosque in New York.
1964: Daughter Amilah is born. Malcolm makes a pilgrimage to Mecca, the Middle East and Africa, and learns that Africans and Muslims overseas are concerned about the civil rights quest in America. He changes his name to El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz and modifies his views of white America.
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