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Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord
Fightin Words ^ | October 15, 2009 | Walter Scott Hudson

Posted on 10/15/2009 4:56:20 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson

Regardless of whether global warming is taking place or caused to any degree by human activity, we do not want a global government empowered to tax Americans without elected representation or anything analogous to constitutional protections. The Founding Fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew their progeny allowed a foreign power such authority, effectively undoing their every effort in an act of Anti-American Revolution. If that is our imminent course, we need to put all else on hold and focus on stopping it. If American sovereignty is ceded, all other debate is irrelevant

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhonwo; bob152; climatechange; globalism; globalwarming; healthcare; military; newworldorder; obama; sovereignty; treaty; veterans; worldgovernment

1 posted on 10/15/2009 4:56:20 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Already has....to the IMF.


2 posted on 10/15/2009 5:04:17 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Related:

“The Copenhagen Climate Change Treaty Draft – wealth transfer defined, now with new and improved ‘dignity’ penalty”

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/03/the-copenhagen-treaty-draft-wealth-transfer-defined-now-with-dignity-penalty/

“Linking health, wealth, and well being with the use of energy” 12 October 2009

“Has Industrialization Diminished the Well-Being of Developing Nations and are Industrialized Countries Responsible?”

Guest post by: Indur M. Golanky

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/12/linking-health-wealth-and-well-being-with-the-use-of-energy/


3 posted on 10/15/2009 5:04:26 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Nothing surprises me anymore.


4 posted on 10/15/2009 10:55:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson; LucyT

thanks for posting, I nearly missed it!


At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

[laughter]

And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.

So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.

But I think it is here, here in your great nation, which I so love and I so admire – it is here that perhaps, at this eleventh hour, at the fifty-ninth minute and fifty-ninth second, you will rise up and you will stop your president from signing that dreadful treaty, that purposeless treaty. For there is no problem with climate and, even if there were, an economic treaty does nothing to [help] it.

So I end by saying to you the words that Winston Churchill addressed to your president in the darkest hour before the dawn of freedom in the Second World War. He quoted from your great poet Longfellow:

Sail on, O Ship of State!
Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
Humanity with all its fears,
With all the hopes of future years,
Is hanging breathless on thy fate!


5 posted on 10/15/2009 2:50:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson; Jim Robinson; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; null and void; ...
Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord

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Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord

At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it.

Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created.

The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity.

The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t.

And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement..

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand.

They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it.

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In the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever.

And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is.

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6 posted on 10/15/2009 4:56:49 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

NO!

Jesus Christ!


7 posted on 10/15/2009 5:05:51 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is.

The largest armed civilian population in the world may differ!!!!

8 posted on 10/15/2009 5:07:23 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: LucyT
And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back

I'll respectfully disagree with that part, and that's all I'll say about that.

9 posted on 10/15/2009 5:07:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end?)
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To: LucyT

Well at some point someone must do something to stop them.


10 posted on 10/15/2009 5:09:33 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: LucyT; Walter Scott Hudson
And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties

Is this really true? Can this really happen? Looks like another sleepless night...

11 posted on 10/15/2009 5:09:39 PM PDT by azishot
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To: LucyT

They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it.


12 posted on 10/15/2009 5:23:19 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer

If so, Lock & Load.

I’m not buying this crap.

It will come uncorked here if he thinks he has the balls to do that. Will not stand.


13 posted on 10/15/2009 5:30:03 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: IrishPennant

Argument to the Contrary-

“Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution”

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm


14 posted on 10/15/2009 5:36:24 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Good post, TF...nothing succeeds the only written text that follows the Bible...our US Constitution. No country, no treaty, no Obama-initiated Marxist/Facist/Hitler style backroom deal shall override our country’s MANUAL!!!!


15 posted on 10/15/2009 5:40:43 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: IrishPennant

Jefferson’s tree is getting very thirsty.

My gut tells me that Obozo has no clue what the U.S. Citizens are capable of, .....yet.

There are a few Lefties that think they are “bad”, but I have known some X-mil folks who are quiet, but effective. I would put my money on them.


16 posted on 10/15/2009 5:43:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Already a done deal by increments over the last several decades . . . some say deliberately since the beginning 200 years ago.


17 posted on 10/15/2009 5:47:32 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Texas Fossil
Thanks for the post. I was about to hit the roof; still don't feel good about what will happen in December though. This page “Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution”,/i> needs to be widely publicized. I hope Obama knows it too.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/staterights/treaties.htm

18 posted on 10/15/2009 5:48:55 PM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: Texas Fossil

I do agree with Beck...that we must turn the other cheek for now and rely on the Constitution to win the day without violence...it was crafted to keep our country functioning that way and Obizmal et. al. are looking fore a reason to institute a national emergency and suspend rights...However, should it come to a need for sharper measures, and I pray that never happens, tag me...I’m in!


19 posted on 10/15/2009 5:53:50 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: LucyT

I don’t think an American would do what is being done to America. And I don’t think an American is doing it.

Problem so far seems to be proving conclusively that the Won doing it isn’t an American.

Although my reasonable doubts on that are all gone.


20 posted on 10/15/2009 5:54:59 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
US Constitution:

"Article II. Section 2.

...He [the President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur;..."

Consequently, it would seem that Obama can sign anything he wants but has to get a 2/3 vote of Senators to ratify it. That raises the interesting question of whether he or his dark forces would be ruthless enough to threaten enough Senators, or make enough of them absent on the day of vote, to exceed the threshold of "two thirds of the Senators present".

In that case, Article VI would be in operation:

"...all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land;..."

In that case, this proposed relinquishment of national sovereignty by means of the treaty being signed in December, with subsequent fraudulent ratification soon thereafter, WILL be the flashpoint leading to a new civil war. This far outweighs the health care issue or anything else we can conceive.

21 posted on 10/15/2009 6:03:07 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Texas Fossil; IrishPennant
“Treaties Do Not Supersede the Constitution”

Oh they’re going to walk right through that restraining order, or at least attempt to.

This means war, pure and simple.

22 posted on 10/15/2009 6:18:12 PM PDT by Semper Mark (My ROE: Kill 'em all, God will sort 'em out.)
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To: LucyT

I call BS on this. Obama is a loony Leftist asshat Commie, but he can’t sign away our Nation as described, much less enforce it.


23 posted on 10/15/2009 6:20:04 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: LucyT

Forwarded on...How to stop this????


24 posted on 10/15/2009 6:23:45 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Texas Fossil

Looks like you answered my question in post #11.

At least I can sleep well tonight but be on guard tomorrow...


25 posted on 10/15/2009 6:27:28 PM PDT by azishot
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To: Texas Fossil
Some good news finally:
No Executive Order, Presidential Directive, Executive Agreement, no NAFTA, GATT/WTO agreement/treaty, passed by ANYONE, can supersede the Constitution. FACT. No question!
26 posted on 10/15/2009 6:28:06 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Markos33
Oh they’re going to walk right through that restraining order, or at least attempt to.

Bring it...again, the world's largest ARMED civilian population may have a design to stand behind what GOD created.

The Lord has blessed us with a strong volunteer military, but that is NOT the reason why this country never gets invaded...it is US. It is the people. It is our hearts and the belief that when we are attacked we will stand and fight as we did when we created this great country. We have held off the foreign aspect of threats...must we hold off the domestic aspect, I imagine we will do the same.

I am ashamed that we let our country get to the point where someone thinks they can takeover and trash the American way of life domestically..internally...from within. Shame on us. But let this mistake serve to make us stronger in the future. Let the outcome of the upcoming be a shining example of the greatest nation on this earth...now or at any time in our past and future.

Soros, Obama, Rahm Emmanual, Cloward-Piven, George Wiley, Dale and Wade Rathke as well as Saul Alinsky can kiss my big red, white and blue a$$.

27 posted on 10/15/2009 6:37:33 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

I cou;d have told you that on November 5, 2008.

Why do you think that all the traitors and American haters voted for him?


28 posted on 10/15/2009 6:39:32 PM PDT by sport
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To: Texas Fossil

That was back when individuals had the intelligence to read and understand the Constitution.

Now, most people do not know how to wipe their butts without the government telling them how.

Don’t believe it?

Ask the first ten people you meet tomorrow what rights are guranteed under the Constitution. Pay close attention to their answers.


29 posted on 10/15/2009 6:46:39 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport; Texas Fossil
Ask the first ten people you meet tomorrow what rights are guranteed under the Constitution. Pay close attention to their answers.

What if people this year bought bulk pocket copies of the U.S. Constitution and handed them out to kids on Hallowe'en along with the Fun Size Milky Way Bars and Smarties?

30 posted on 10/15/2009 6:50:20 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: LucyT; Markos33; Salamander
"And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is."

Wanna bet your life on that one?

I'm betting mine that you're wrong.

(By the way, I'm represented in this matter by the law firm of Mossberg, Makarov, Springfield and Colt, PC.)
31 posted on 10/15/2009 6:54:39 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: thecodont

I don’t think that it would hurt.


32 posted on 10/15/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by sport
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To: shibumi
“the law firm of Mossberg, Makarov, Springfield and Colt, PC.”

Now that's a dream team...

33 posted on 10/15/2009 7:09:56 PM PDT by Semper Mark (My ROE: Kill 'em all, God will sort 'em out later.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson; Yadanuiat

linked thread

Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2363537/posts


34 posted on 10/15/2009 7:36:05 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: Texas Fossil

This comment has a similar tone to others I have received, to which my response is:

I agree with you on principle. However, there is a flaw in passively relying on the “limitations” built into the executive office. Those limitations really only exist if enforced. Like any law, if there is no one policing to detect and deter violations, it has no meaning. A cursory examination of American history reveals numerous examples of the built-in limitations of government being violently abused or ignored. At the end of the day we are the limitation on the executive. We are the Law. We have to keep this from happening.


35 posted on 10/16/2009 12:49:36 AM PDT by Walter Scott Hudson (fightinwords.us)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Our friends in Great Britain, Canada and Australia and even France have been the ones reporting these things and trying to wake us up. They are worried about us.

Come on American media! Wake up!!! Stop thinking about your damn jobs. This is bigger than you! And you are dispensible! We’re all dispensible.


36 posted on 10/16/2009 12:55:45 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Yes, and the only way to do that is put the Congressmen on notice that we will vote them out and punish them for excess where there is a legal option.

Ultimately the threat of worse toward them is the only real limit, but that is implied.

I understand your position and agree fully.

The calls to the Congress Critters must be firm and show them that we DO understand what they are doing.


37 posted on 10/16/2009 5:45:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: thecodont

Handing out copies of the Constitution with Halloween candy is not a bad idea.

I like that.


38 posted on 10/16/2009 5:50:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: IrishPennant

I think it depends on what one’s definition of an invasion is. I’d call what is occurring on our southern border an invasion. We don’t have the strength to resist it. Political correctness has sapped our strength.


39 posted on 10/16/2009 12:03:41 PM PDT by blackd77
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

This is treason...


40 posted on 10/18/2009 12:31:19 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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