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An Ancient City Is Discovered Underwater. What They Found Will Change History Forever
Sunken Skyz blog ^ | December 1, 2013

Posted on 12/07/2013 12:44:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The city of Heracleion was engulfed underwater 1500 years ago. This grand city had been mentioned by the Greek writer Herodotus, the 5th-century BC historian. He had told a wonderful tale of Helen of Troy, who traveled to Heracleion, then a port of 'great wealth', with her Trojan lover, Paris.

When French marine archaeologist Franck Goddio stumbled upon some relics, it led them to one of the greatest finds of the 21st century; a city underwater. The discovery took place when Goddio had been in search of Napoleon’s warships from the 1798 Battle of the Nile, when he had been defeated by Nelson in these very waters, but to his surprise, he stumbled upon this magnificent discovery.

The discoveries include the colossal statues of the Egyptian goddess Isis, the god Hapi, and an unidentified Egyptian pharaoh, all preserved in excellent condition by their muddy burial shroud. Along with these 16ft statues there are hundreds of smaller statues of Egyptian gods, among them the figures that guarded the temple where Cleopatra who was inaugurated as Queen of the Nile. Dozens of sarcophagi have also been found, containing the bodies of mummified animals sacrificed to Amun-Gereb, the supreme god of the Egyptians. Many amulets, or religious charms, have been unearthed, too, showing gods such as Isis, Osiris and Horus.

Evidence shows that Heracleion slipped into its watery grave sometime in the 6th or 7th century AD. The discovery of Heracleion will now add depth and detail to our knowledge of the ancient world, because among the discoveries, there are perfectly preserved inscribed pillars decorated with hieroglyphics.


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: alexanderthegreat; archeology; catastrophism; egypt; franckgoddio; godsgravesglyphs; greece; heracleion; herodotus; history; thonis
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Nice photos at the link.
1 posted on 12/07/2013 12:44:05 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting this article. Look forward to all articles on archaeological finds.


2 posted on 12/07/2013 12:52:21 AM PST by itssme
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv

Awesome....


3 posted on 12/07/2013 1:00:50 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv
"Nice photos at the link."

Very; thanks for posting. I think the name of the site is Sunny Skys, rather than Sunken Skys. Come to think of it though. . .

SunkenCiv - Ping.

4 posted on 12/07/2013 1:02:58 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (It's all rigged.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the city was underwater wouldn’t everyone be wet all the time....?


5 posted on 12/07/2013 1:54:02 AM PST by njslim (St)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to know how an entire city came to be inundated like this. Obviously the sea level rose, but how? Sport Utility Chariots belching CO2?


6 posted on 12/07/2013 1:57:18 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: njslim

If the city was underwater wouldn’t everyone be wet all the time....?


Just because civilization was still primitive doesn’t mean the people were stupid. They probably used umbrellas.


7 posted on 12/07/2013 1:58:14 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, it's useless. huh?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The pics are worth seeing!!!

This is not just any find... the statues and the massive tablets look almost NEW. I’ve never seen anything that old preserved so well.

Can’t wait to get some high res pics of those after they are brought up.

And that bronze statue... much of that stuff dates BC. Can you believe the quality of it? It’s preserved condition really shows that we underestimate what their artisans were capable of. I mean, just LOOK at that thing.

Thanks for the link. That was great.


8 posted on 12/07/2013 2:25:46 AM PST by Advil000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For those of us today who follow and learn from history and not try to re write it, nice!


9 posted on 12/07/2013 2:41:03 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Truly amazing that it had not been discovered till now. It was far from being in a "remote" location.


"An ancient Egyptian city found 6.5 km off of modern Egypt's coastline..."(LINK)

10 posted on 12/07/2013 2:46:31 AM PST by drpix
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would be nice if the article explained what causes a city to slip into a sea. What is the possibility of a modern city doing the same thing today? It just happened 1,400 years ago. Less than a minute ago in the earth’s history.


11 posted on 12/07/2013 2:58:40 AM PST by BushCountry (Obama: The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: Windflier

From everything I’ve been able to find so far, sea levels have been pretty stable over the last 3000 years, and around 500 AD especially. There have been some periods of slight rises, but nothing to put a city underwater as seen in the photos @ the link. I’d guess at subsidence during a large seismic event. The Mediterranean region is very active...

http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science/earth/the-dynamic-earth/anatolian-history/#page=1


12 posted on 12/07/2013 3:14:51 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Paul R.
I’d guess at subsidence during a large seismic event.

You know, that possibility also occurred to me. I'll bet that was what did it.

13 posted on 12/07/2013 3:20:26 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I was stationed in the Sinai desert for a year back in the late 80s and I remember the discussions that earthquakes had caused some of the port cities to submerge and others to be pushed upward and out of the sea’s reach. All along the northern Sinai there are the remains of Roman outposts between al Kantara (near the Suez Canal) and el Arish (near the Israeli border). During routine patrols in that area it was easy to find the remains of Pelusium - where Cleopatra was unrolled in front of Caesar - and Petrocine with its graving docks and baths. A short stroll unearthed lamps, small statues, coins, and bronze arrowheads. That part of the world is loaded with archeological treasures but the attitude of the Egyptian authorities was “if it isn’t Islamic, we don’t care”.


14 posted on 12/07/2013 3:33:49 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail; Windflier; Paul R.

Also, the city is in the Nile Delta area. The ground was “sinking sand” to begin with, since the river constantly deposits silt, shifts its channel, and generally restructures the topography all the time. Add in earthquakes and storms, and a nice port city can easily be left submerged, like Caesaraea Maritima, or high and dry.

Think of New Orleans and the Mississippi Delta area or the river-mouths area we call Bangladesh. It doesn’t take sea-level changes to make the situation unstable.


15 posted on 12/07/2013 3:45:40 AM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: Tax-chick

Is that what happened in Detroit ? Heard that they are underwater too.


16 posted on 12/07/2013 3:49:32 AM PST by Einherjar
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To: Einherjar

LOL!


17 posted on 12/07/2013 3:50:32 AM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: BushCountry

Oh, sorry, I’d have included you as a recipient to my post 12, but I was on the comment page and had gone reading for a while...

As far as the “possibility” goes, I’d say it’s just a matter of time. You’ll find that article I linked to pretty fascinating, I think. Sobering, too. I sure did.


18 posted on 12/07/2013 4:03:54 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes. Any area with any depth of sediments is vulnerable. The New Madrid (MO) earthquake(s) were an excellent example (and will be again).


19 posted on 12/07/2013 4:24:12 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Al Gore finds proof of man made global warming when, “An Ancient City Is Discovered Underwater. What They Found Will Change History Forever”

How do you change history? Is it done by executive order?


20 posted on 12/07/2013 4:31:43 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paging Dr Daniel Jackson...


21 posted on 12/07/2013 5:35:00 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That 1.9m tablet pictured at the link looks like polished “Jet Black” granite with ‘skin cut’ letters.

I am in the monument trade. People today get tomb stones in that style, and much more than once, I have come upon such a person while he was in the middle of re-thinking the wisdom of such shallow letters.

They ask me if I can cut the letters deeper. I say “yes, but then you’d have to pay for it and you would not like that.” They then invariably say ‘But look how SHALLOW they are, won’t they disappear with time’?

That’s when I laugh. I laugh and I laugh and I laugh...


22 posted on 12/07/2013 6:04:48 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Windflier

I was thinking the opposite. If the Mongolian plate is rising, wouldn’t another have to sink? Or would that take millions of years? I want another continent to rise with Hawaii at the center. What would that do?


23 posted on 12/07/2013 6:22:52 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

24 posted on 12/07/2013 6:28:17 AM PST by blam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone remember about those “ancient cities” off the coast of Peru found back in 1966? There were reports of them in several real newspapers back in March of 1966.

I’ve never seen anything mentioned of them again.


25 posted on 12/07/2013 7:22:30 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Windflier

Earthquake, maybe, with a severe drop in elevation?


26 posted on 12/07/2013 7:46:50 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; mikrofon; martin_fierro
Helen of Troy, who traveled to Heracleion, then a port of 'great wealth', with her Trojan lover, Paris.


27 posted on 12/07/2013 8:24:03 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (All wet.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

http://books.google.com/books?id=0800Y4SaEQgC&pg=PA111&lpg=PA111&dq=sunken+city+peru+1966&source=bl&ots=oLoamrmcxV&sig=QSX7f24-8SLlwKZgaUcJDQT1OOE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QUyjUpvmJefX2QWLpIG4BQ&ved=0CHIQ6AEwCw#v=onepage&q=sunken%20city%20peru%201966&f=false


28 posted on 12/07/2013 8:32:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks! I knew I wasn’t crazy or senile!


29 posted on 12/07/2013 8:45:26 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Charles Henrickson; martin_fierro; 2ndDivisionVet
The discoveries include the colossal statues of the Egyptian goddess Isis, the god Hapi, and an unidentified Egyptian pharaoh

NTBCW a modern-day, self-styled god & Pharaoh:


30 posted on 12/07/2013 8:52:50 AM PST by mikrofon (Cur-Isis Management)
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To: Einherjar

Hah...LOL’S


31 posted on 12/07/2013 10:29:49 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Dear Santa.....I can explain...)
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To: TalBlack

Please explain the term...skin cut...thanks.


32 posted on 12/07/2013 10:34:55 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Dear Santa.....I can explain...)
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To: Conservative4Ever

“Skin cut” is a current term for very very shallow letters. A stone is polished to mirror gloss, a template is glued on and sand blast (sometimes steel shot) takes the polish off. Depth may only be one sixteenth or 3 thirtyseconds. After that there is u cut and after that there is v cut. V cut usually requires a no polish panel to be more visible as the letters darken as they v out.


33 posted on 12/07/2013 3:14:20 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


34 posted on 12/07/2013 3:18:38 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Vendome; Flotsam_Jetsome

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/franckgoddio/index


35 posted on 12/07/2013 5:24:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Thanks Vendome and Flotsam_Jetsome.

36 posted on 12/07/2013 5:25:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Gobekli Tepe is more important.

Heck, it was already buried under the dust ten thousand years before Romulus and Remus changed their diapers!


37 posted on 12/07/2013 5:28:16 PM PST by djf (Global warming is a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: blam

“The god Hapi was the god of the flooding of the Nile, “. Heh


38 posted on 12/07/2013 5:45:06 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Windflier

I’ve read that periodically sections of the Egyptian coastline slide into the Mediterranean. Earthquakes.


39 posted on 12/07/2013 5:53:50 PM PST by Tallguy (between taglines...)
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To: Paul R.
I’d guess at subsidence during a large seismic event.

Me too. With the African and Arabian Plates being subducted under the European Plate, conditions exist for many events like that over geologic time.

40 posted on 12/07/2013 6:03:19 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://canadajournal.net/science/egypt-heracleion-sea-mediterranean-1200-years-photo-1499-2013/
Has short underwater video.
“like the Rosetta Stone, those steles found beneath the waters of Aboukir Bay are inscribed in Greek and Egyptian... It appears that Heracleion faded in importance in the later classical period, eclipsed by its neighbouring city of Alexandria, which became the capital of Egypt in 312BC.
Still, Heracleion lingered on, later under Roman control, until it slipped into its watery grave some time in the 6th or 7th century AD.”


41 posted on 12/07/2013 6:12:57 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Tallguy
I’ve read that periodically sections of the Egyptian coastline slide into the Mediterranean. Earthquakes.

I realized that subsidence due to earthquakes was the likely culprit after I posted my question. I really shouldn't post when I'm half asleep :-)

42 posted on 12/07/2013 6:49:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: gitmo

and kept the water in tubs and amphorae and such.


43 posted on 12/07/2013 7:05:39 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amazing stuff!!


44 posted on 12/07/2013 7:17:05 PM PST by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: TalBlack
Thank you for that explanation. In your expert opinion, that ancient tablet with the hieroglyphics, was that considered skin cut? I assume weathering is a big factor in the damage done to lets say a headstone. I remembering seeing very weathered headstones in cemetaries in new England and barely able to read them. They looked to have been cut deeper that the depth you related. Or monuments for that matter. I find the subject interesting. Oh one other point...ancient stone carvings, runes, that look to be embossed, raised letters/symbols. How us that done. If the explanation is to long, reference to an article or book would be appreciated. Thank you again for the information.
45 posted on 12/08/2013 12:51:33 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Dear Santa.....I can explain...)
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To: lepton

Thought the same thing when seeing that caption.

Great links in this thread, fascinating stuff. I am most impressed by the granite tablet with the inscriptions. Looks brand-new.


46 posted on 12/08/2013 1:03:25 PM PST by Betis70
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To: drpix
It does look like the coastline just fell away, and the land collapsed around the city.

-PJ

47 posted on 12/08/2013 1:04:11 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amazing.


48 posted on 12/08/2013 1:05:55 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Conservative4Ever; TalBlack

A lot of the New England headstones were made out of sandstone. Easy to carve, easy to weather. Locally (I’m in CT) a number were made out of ‘Portland Brown’ a sandstone well known to people who live in NYC and quarried at a site about 10 miles from where I live. Sandstone is a sedimentary rock.

This is granite and granite is an igneous rock. One was produced by processes at the surface of the earth (sandstone), the other by volcanic processes deep in the earth (igneous).

You can easily cut sandstone with a cold chisel. But that means it is also easy to weather. If you get a small fissure in the headstone and you have quick freeze-thaw, as happens pretty often around here in Nov-Dec and late Feb-Mar, you get some physical weathering where the ice expands and makes a bigger fissure. And of course all that rain also affects the weathering (chemical), along with pollution either from lots of wood burning or coal or cars or Krakatoa blowing its top.

But granite and most igneous rocks are tough to physically weather (or physically inscribe), and chemical weathering, while it happens, does so on a time scale we humans would have trouble noticing.


49 posted on 12/08/2013 1:20:29 PM PST by Betis70
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To: njslim; a fool in paradise
If the city was underwater wouldn’t everyone be wet all the time....?

True, but like fish they wouldn't know they're wet.

50 posted on 12/08/2013 1:23:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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