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GOP won by planting seeds of deception
Chicago Sun-Times Inc ^ | December 14, 2000 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 11/28/2004 7:03:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv

What the Republicans did, cleverly, was to establish effective "memes" in the minds of the public and the pundits... Bush became the "winner" of a dead heat, in the midst of an incomplete recount, when a premature victory was declared on her own unnecessary deadline by his Florida campaign co-chairwoman, who also held the crucial post of secretary of state... [I]t was clearly a shameless ploy to slam the door before the election escaped. A meme was born. The other effective GOP meme was the mantra, "we counted, and counted again, and then a third time." These words were chanted by Baker and the other Bush spokesmen until many Americans accepted them as a form of truth, even though it is clear that thousands of ballots were never counted at all. Another successful meme was the assault on the honesty of election judges and the courts in general. They were often characterized by the GOP as partisan crooks, unless their findings agreed with the Bush cause, in which case they were patriots.

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1 posted on 11/28/2004 7:03:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA
Ping!
2 posted on 11/28/2004 7:03:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

I sorta knew Ebert was a liberal. I never realized he was a Michael Moore-bibly obese psychopath democrat party propagandist.


3 posted on 11/28/2004 7:09:05 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: SunkenCiv

I sorta knew Ebert was a liberal. I never realized he was a Michael Moore-bidly obese psychopath democrat party propagandist.


4 posted on 11/28/2004 7:09:32 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: SunkenCiv

Finally got dumped, did he? Gee. Musta been those pesky memes that got the best of him.


5 posted on 11/28/2004 7:14:36 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: FormerACLUmember

As soon as I saw his review of Moore propogandamentory, I knew this clown was a political idiot and his movie reviews need careful reading.


6 posted on 11/28/2004 7:15:00 PM PST by JLS
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To: FormerACLUmember; hinckley buzzard; JLS

Just in case anyone didn't notice, that was an op-ed that Ebert wrote in 2000.


7 posted on 11/28/2004 7:17:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

I'm sorry, why is this movie critic writing professionally published pieces on electoral politics?

If he wants to spew nonsense on subjects beyond his bailiwick, let him get a blog, like everyone else in the world.


8 posted on 11/28/2004 7:18:26 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Are these people still in Florida 2000? Perhaps they should take the advice of their own propaganda website and MOVE ON! Sheesh, we are into 2005 almost now!
9 posted on 11/28/2004 7:19:34 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh sure, now you tell me it was written in 2000! :-)


10 posted on 11/28/2004 7:20:16 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: SunkenCiv
GOP won by planting seeds of deception

I suggest this title as 'bogus garbagus'.  Anyone who understands Darwinian notions would readily realize that it is not about 'planting the seed' but rather what was killed or eaten as to allow the seed to mature and drop in the first place.  

Bush became the "winner" of a dead heat, in the midst of an incomplete recount

Nature does not recount anything, it is the sum of the parts.

11 posted on 11/28/2004 7:27:07 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

He trashed Michael Moore.


12 posted on 11/28/2004 7:28:00 PM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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To: SunkenCiv

I saw that. I didn't know he'd been dumped though, that must have happened more recently?


13 posted on 11/28/2004 7:57:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

He hasn't been. Just my blowin' out the candles.


14 posted on 11/28/2004 8:00:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

"Ann Coulter accused the Democrats of being "delusional nutcases," called the Florida Supreme Court "power-mad lunatics," and found that the Democrats had crossed the "fine line" between "typical Democrat lies and demonstrably psychotic behavior."

That sounds about right. What film is this Roger is talking about? When did he become a political pundit. The Dems. were far more active about floating false memes. Republicans pretty much just had to sit back and watch them implode. I don't understand how Rober can see this.


15 posted on 11/28/2004 11:31:53 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: SunkenCiv

Bullshit. Gotta call bullshit.

61 million Americans shouted down Michael Moore, Roger Ebert, Bruuuuuce "pissing on the flag" Springsteen, Noam Choad Comsky, Ralph Nader, Dan Ratherbiased, Petah Jennings, et al....


The Rats tried to pull the wool over Americans' eyes with lies about a non-existent draft and other Goebbels inspired poppycock (BS).

Pull my post. I don't care. Horseshit needs to be called out as such. Roger Ebert is a "progressive" socialist and turns thumbs down on movies he doesn't agree with politically even though he "claims" that he would never do such.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 12:45:32 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
He's diggin' a hole...

Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

17 posted on 11/29/2004 12:47:12 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: orangelobster

He became a pundit after Siskel died. He never would have been this outspoken.

Gene was always there to reign him in. Now his partner works for the same paper (and writes more leftist whiney crap).

Dopey Roeper won't even watch Little Rascals shorts (A) because they are black and white and (B) because they are "racist".


18 posted on 11/29/2004 12:53:13 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Perdogg
Funny, he wrote several article praising the film and the "25 minute" standing ovation it got.

Meanwhile the films that criticized Moore's film and his technique were not so well reviewed (if at all).

Roger Ebert: (Fahrenheit) '9/11': Just the facts? (in defense of Michael Moore documentaries)

Jim Emerson: On celebrities, Politics, and movie critics (shilling for Roger Ebert)

Fahrenheit 911 review 3/12 stars and 2 thumbs up his a..

19 posted on 11/29/2004 1:03:15 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

I wholeheartedly agree.


20 posted on 11/29/2004 6:24:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: weegee

Ebert still falsely claims that he's never changed his mind regarding a review, but Siskel pointed out that was false (I think it was the last Klaus Kinski film) to Jay Leno, who used that tidbit when he had them on the show. Instead of "oh, yeah, I forgot about that one" or "oops, ya caught me", he turned to Siskel and shouted, "you gave him that, didn't you?" I think that must have been during Leno's first six months as the host, it was early on in any case. The first six months' tapes were destroyed by Leno's order, because he was so awful. Down the Memory Hole.

The Brown Bunny / *** (Ebert pulls a Kerry!)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | Sept 3 2004 | Roger Ebert
Posted on 09/03/2004 8:07:14 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207021/posts


21 posted on 11/29/2004 6:28:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv; little jeremiah; EdReform

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=151

Ex-Porn Film Screenwriter Roger Ebert Pans Christian Movie Review Site

Washington, DC - In a recent newspaper column Q&A, film reviewer Roger Ebert responded to a question from a filmgoer who was deeply offended by movie reviews produced by the Child Care Action Project (CAP), a Texas-based ministry headed by Thomas A. Carder. The filmgoer said that CAP is "the most insulting movie site on the Web. Their lust for demeaning a film solely on its content (violence, sex, profanity) is annoying." Ebert agreed. He noted that "At www.capalert.com, few films seem innocent" and recommended another movie review site that offers "sane advice" about movies. Ebert apparently considers it "insane" for a Christian movie review site to consider profanity, explicit sex, and anti-Biblical messages in its analysis of films.

CAP provides what may be the most thorough analysis of films available on the Internet. Carder carefully analyzes each film to give parents a detailed overview of objectionable content. Parents can then make up their own minds about what films their children may see. Carder's site can help parents pinpoint films that may seem innocent on the surface, but that contain messages or images that violate the Christian beliefs of those parents.

It is not surprising that Roger Ebert would be immune from concerns over explicit sex, violence, anti-Christian messages, or profanity in movies. Ebert was a screenwriter in the 1970s for Russ Meyer, one of the pioneers of mainstream pornographic films.

Ebert wrote the screenplay for Meyer's "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls," a sexually explicit film that ends with a bloody Charles Manson-like massacre. He also penned "Vixens," "Beneath the Valley of the Ultra-Vixens," and "Up." Writing under a pseudonym for "Up," Ebert created a pornographic film that featured a violent double rape scene that was apparently too disturbing even for Meyer's hard-core followers.

Given Ebert's love of pornography and violence, it would seem far more appropriate for concerned parents to consult the Child Care Action Project for movie reviews, than to depend upon Ebert for allegedly "sane" reviews of today's films. Ebert has obviously been desensitized to the point where he cannot clearly distinguish between right and wrong or good and evil. It is disheartening to think that so many filmgoers depend upon his advice for what they will see. Fortunately, CAP and Ted Baehr's www.movieguide.org web site offer other movie review options for parents.


22 posted on 11/29/2004 6:55:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks.


23 posted on 11/29/2004 7:33:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rog claims that the "re-edited" version "totally changes" the movie.

I still suspect that he trashed Vincent Gallo's film because he is an outspoken Republican (even if some conservatives don't like his work). It was taken to a personal level the way that Roger assailed Vincent in repeated articles.


24 posted on 11/29/2004 9:18:35 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Their lust for demeaning a film solely on its content (violence, sex, profanity) is annoying."

Did Roger ever denounce the Catholic Church and the "League of Decency" which denounced certain films?

Did Roger denounce Joe Bob Briggs who's film reviews always included an accounting of the 3 B's in a drive-in film (Blood, Breasts, and Beasts; he would give the dead body count, number of breasts seen, and the Fu's like Kung Fu, Baseball Bat Fu...)?

25 posted on 11/29/2004 9:24:18 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

I don't know. I stopped watching this left wing hog over a decade ago.


26 posted on 11/29/2004 10:32:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: SunkenCiv

It is amazing what we find on when we do searches on the Bush Bashing Maggots in the MSM.


27 posted on 11/29/2004 10:36:50 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yeah... well, back in 2000, when that column came out (actually, probably early in 2001, but I'm too lazy to check) a friend who's a foam at the mouth Dim emailed it to me (sans the URL, which I found later), so I'd been aware of it for some time. :') Naturally some other of that kind were favorably impressed and had posted it in entire (I found two or three other examples).


28 posted on 11/29/2004 9:27:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: weegee

(regarding post #24)

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29 posted on 11/19/2005 4:31:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Wednesday, November 2, 2005.)
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Note: this topic is from 11/28/2004. Written by Roger Ebert in 2000.

30 posted on 09/18/2011 4:19:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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