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Reconstructing Petra
Smithsonian ^ | 2007 | Andrew Lawler

Posted on 12/20/2007 1:31:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv

[A]archaeologists are discovering that ancient Petra was a sprawling city of lush gardens and pleasant fountains, enormous temples and luxurious Roman-style villas. An ingenious water supply system allowed Petrans not just to drink and bathe, but to grow wheat, cultivate fruit, make wine and stroll in the shade of tall trees... And scholars now know that Petra thrived for nearly 1,000 years... Constructed during the first century B.C. and the first century A.D., it included a 600-seat theater, a triple colonnade, an enormous paved courtyard and vaulted rooms underneath. Artifacts found at the site -- from tiny Nabatean coins to chunks of statues -- number in the hundreds of thousands... No one knows where the Nabateans came from. Around 400 B.C., the Arab tribe swept into the mountainous region nestled between the Sinai and Arabian peninsulas and the Mediterranean Sea... The Nabateans developed a writing system -- ultimately the basis of written Arabic -- though the inscriptions they left in Petra and elsewhere are mostly names of people and places and are not particularly revealing of their beliefs, history or daily lives... By 100 B.C., the tribe had a king, vast wealth and a rapidly expanding capital city... Rome annexed Nabatea in A.D. 106, apparently without a fight... At its peak, Petra's population was about 30,000, an astonishing density made possible in the arid climate by clever engineering. Petrans carved channels through solid rock, gathering winter rains into hundreds of vast cisterns for use in the dry summers. Many are still used today by the Bedouin... on May 19, A.D. 363, a massive earthquake and a powerful aftershock rumbled through the area. A Jerusalem bishop noted in a letter that "nearly half" of Petra was destroyed by the seismic shock.

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1 posted on 12/20/2007 1:31:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

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2 posted on 12/20/2007 1:32:55 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Some days it doesn't even make sense to chew through the restraints.)
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3 posted on 12/20/2007 1:33:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CholeraJoe

[sigh]


4 posted on 12/20/2007 1:35:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

We’ve been there!!!! THe most MAGNIFCENT place I’ve ever seen. It’s not a HOLY place, but it is MAGNIFICENT!!


5 posted on 12/20/2007 1:36:59 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, did they find the Holy Grail? ;-)


6 posted on 12/20/2007 1:38:35 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480

“He did not choose wisely”


7 posted on 12/20/2007 1:40:04 PM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: SunkenCiv

I had read many, many years ago, that at END TIMES there will be 250,000 JEWS in PETRA....but I can find NOTHING and NO ONE who has ever heard that!! It was one reason why I wanted to see it....I had NO idea what it looked like.


8 posted on 12/20/2007 1:42:41 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"If Blam subscribes to Smithsonian Magazine too..."

Yup...I do.

9 posted on 12/20/2007 1:46:02 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Ann Archy

I’ve not been there, but had seen plenty of photos in the past. I was struck by the sheer scale of “The Treasury” (as it used to be called) as shown in the above pic.


10 posted on 12/20/2007 1:53:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

OMG!! And the walls inside are PERFECTLY CUT...and the room is HUGE! ANd the CITY IS HUGE also!! MANY, MANY buildings...and you can see (sp?) Jabaal Aaron gleaming white on a mountain top.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 1:57:15 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: blam

...let’s see... Archaeology, Smithsonian, Discover? (you used to), what else? :’D


12 posted on 12/20/2007 2:03:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ann Archy

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27670


13 posted on 12/20/2007 2:04:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ann Archy

Daniel 11:40-45 specifically 11:41
Matthew 24:15-18, (Mark 13, Luke 21)
Revelation 12:6,14,17


14 posted on 12/20/2007 2:06:31 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: SunkenCiv

15 posted on 12/20/2007 2:12:56 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Ann Archy

from that link:

“the 4,000-year-old King’s Highway”

That’s east of the era of the Cities of the Plain, four of which sites are under water now (Bela a.k.a. Zoar remained after the disaster; and ignoring Babedh-Dhra, which has been claimed by some to be either S or G).


16 posted on 12/20/2007 2:12:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

I have this same picture, I took it myself when I was there. I lived in Jordan for a couple of years.


17 posted on 12/20/2007 2:16:17 PM PST by Bruinator ("It's the Media Stupid.")
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To: SunkenCiv
"...let’s see... Archaeology, Smithsonian, Discover? (you used to), what else? :’D"

Science News, National Geo, National Review...

18 posted on 12/20/2007 2:16:39 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SunkenCiv
Petra - Lots of Pictures

YouTube - Petra Slide Show

Petra - For You Voyeurs

19 posted on 12/20/2007 2:18:51 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: blam
Thanks Blam
Civilization.ca - PETRA: Lost City of Stone
Petra images:
Google
Petra Jordan images Search Text
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20 posted on 12/20/2007 2:19:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1942465/posts?page=20#20

Here’s a big fave, taken of a guy lounging on top of that urn-like decoration on the front of “The Treasury”:

http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/places/images/photos/photo_lg_jordan.jpg


21 posted on 12/20/2007 2:21:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
[A]archaeologists are discovering that ancient Petra was a sprawling city of lush gardens and pleasant fountains, enormous temples and luxurious Roman-style villas. An ingenious water supply system allowed Petrans not just to drink and bathe, but to grow wheat, cultivate fruit, make wine and stroll in the shade of tall trees... And scholars now know that Petra thrived for nearly 1,000 years...

I think Petra is where the Jews will hide out from the Anti-Christ during the Tribulations. They could survive there very comfortably.

22 posted on 12/20/2007 2:23:59 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: NRA2BFree
You might be thinking of this.

The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God

23 posted on 12/20/2007 2:31:10 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ann Archy
Here is a link to a web page referencing the Jews and Petra.

The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God

24 posted on 12/20/2007 2:35:41 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ann Archy
We’ve been there!!!! THe most MAGNIFCENT place I’ve ever seen. It’s not a HOLY place, but it is MAGNIFICENT!!

I would LOVE to go there. I saw a documentary on Petra on the Discovery Channel and it was awesome! I'm amazed at how they have built into the rock walls. It could sustain the Jews during the Tribulations. That's the only place that I can think of that the Jews will be safe from the Anti-Christ. The only way in could easily be shut up by an explosion, or since God's looking out for His chosen, He might do it with an earthquake! :o)

25 posted on 12/20/2007 2:35:46 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: SunkenCiv

WOW!! THANKS!!!!!! EVERYONE needs to see PETRA!


26 posted on 12/20/2007 2:38:36 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Here’s a big fave, taken of a guy lounging on top of that urn-like decoration on the front of “The Treasury”:

A reference is needed, like the man sitting on the urn to fully appreciate the size of this place.

27 posted on 12/20/2007 2:40:34 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s probably what they were going for. One of the myths made up by the later Bedouins was that the big urn thing was filled with treasure. :’) Hard to explain how the treasure got inside, since it’s carved of the living rock.


28 posted on 12/20/2007 2:42:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
She looks pretty well constructed, IMHO:


Petra Nemcova
29 posted on 12/20/2007 2:46:28 PM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: Ann Archy

My 6th grader was assigned the country of Jordan to present to her class. We really enjoyed learning about all the history and Biblical significance within this Kingdom. We also both really would love to visit there some day.

When did you go there? Is it safe?

We read somewhere that you could sleep out there in the desert, although I’d probably need to be smoking something to partake in something risky like that.

People still live out there in those caves, don’t they?


30 posted on 12/20/2007 2:49:32 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: NCC-1701

That Petra survived the tsunami that hit Banda Ache.


31 posted on 12/20/2007 2:50:51 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: SunkenCiv
Maybe it is the orginal Genie Lamp? The place could be the setting for the 1001 Nights.
32 posted on 12/20/2007 2:51:08 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Esther Ruth

THANKS!!! Way above my paygrade to find the passages about the Jews going to Petra in END TIMES. I guess I like things spelled out to me..>:)


33 posted on 12/20/2007 2:54:03 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Really! Thanks for the info.


34 posted on 12/20/2007 2:56:47 PM PST by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was turned on to Petra as a child by a writer named Richard Halliburton who was a famous explorer cum archeologist who wrote a lot of pop archeology stuff in the 30s and 40s.

I think Halliburton was the prototype for Indiana Jones, complete with the hat.


35 posted on 12/20/2007 2:58:03 PM PST by wildbill
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
We went in May of 2000...first to Israel, then another couple, ORTHODOX JEWS that we didn't know, went with an Arab Muslim guide who spoke English, and an Arab Muslim driver who did not.

We went to Jerash, another ancient city in Jordan, AMMAN, which in some places looked like Beverly Hills, and then to Petra!! We stayed at the entrance of the Sicq at The Movenpick Hotel...VERY nice.....and Petra was really UNBELIEVABLE!!

At the time I felt very safe, not one inkling on being un-safe and I am the BIGGEST SCAREDY CAT you've ever seen.

The same Palestinian ina Mercedes took us to the border of Jordan and then picked us back up again on our way back to Israel and I did get very concerned because he was taking us a different route than the way we have gone, and I said something to my husband and the Orthodox Jewish man and he yelled something and the driver said he was just taking us past where Pope JP II had just stayed!!

We can not wait to go back.

36 posted on 12/20/2007 3:02:02 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Does that make it Petra or somewhere else?


37 posted on 12/20/2007 3:03:38 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Bruinator; blam

I, too, have that same picture.....it takes your BREATH away when it first comes into view....it’s UNBELIEVABLE!


38 posted on 12/20/2007 3:04:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Bruinator

What did you do in Jordan?


39 posted on 12/20/2007 3:05:04 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

HOW and WHY do they get Petra as being this place when there is NO direct reference to Petra??? I’m trying to wrap my mind around how everyone zeros in on Petra, but those verses don’t really DESCRIBE Petra....or do they?


40 posted on 12/20/2007 3:08:08 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Someplace else. Petra’s dates are short by more than 1000 years.


41 posted on 12/20/2007 3:17:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ann Archy
I think it is because of the location of Petra along the Kings Highway. Try this link about half way down the page there is a discussion of Petra.

Reference to Petra as Jewish Refuge

42 posted on 12/20/2007 3:33:12 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SunkenCiv

ooooh goood one!

thanks.


43 posted on 12/20/2007 3:40:36 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam
The Nabataeans greatest accomplishment was probably their system of water management. They developed a system to collect rainwater using water channels, pipes, and underground cisterns. Added to this, they developed very strong, waterproof cement, some of which is still in existence to this day.

Cement mortar and plaster played an important role in Nabataean life. They used this essential technology from their very earliest years in the desert. Without their special knowledge of cement, the Nabataeans would never have conquered the desert, and would never have risen to the status of a civilization.

The Nabataeans were experts at collecting water and storing it in underground cisterns. All along their caravan routes, secret water collection systems collected water and stored it for later use. The ancient historian Diodorus noted:

"For in the waterless region, as it is called, they have dug wells at convenient intervals and have kept the knowledge of them from people of all other nations, and so they retreat in a body into this region out of danger. For since they themselves know about the places of hidden water and open them up, they have for their use drinking water in abundance." (II.48.2)

LINK

LINK

44 posted on 12/20/2007 6:03:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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http://www.nabataea.net/cement.html

Timeline of the Development of Cement


45 posted on 12/20/2007 6:52:59 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: NCC-1701

Petra was actually in Phuket and not Banda Aceh. Her story of survival was quite remarkable.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/more/12/28/nemcova.tsunami/


46 posted on 12/20/2007 7:09:50 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks. I never knew about these water systems. I wonder how many are lost and forgotten underground?


47 posted on 12/20/2007 7:42:05 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for these pics. A couple of years ago we had a special exhibit from Petra at Calvin College. Lots of zodiacal stuff from the Hellenistic and Roman periods, monumental sculpture, all very cool. As you said, they were good at water management. I would think that they must have been at least as good at waste disposal (getting rid of sewage, basically), if indeed 30,000 people were living there. Sounds like a parallel can be drawn with Los Angeles — an artificial oasis (of sorts) in the desert, made possible through importation of water from a wide area surrounding the town.


48 posted on 12/20/2007 7:47:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NCC-1701

those get the rocks moving.


49 posted on 12/20/2007 7:51:29 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Ann Archy

jUST VISITED THOSE THREE PLACES IN 2 DAYS.


50 posted on 12/20/2007 7:53:17 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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