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100,000-year-old human skull found
China Daily ^ | Wednesday, January 23, 2008 | unattributed

Posted on 01/23/2008 11:48:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv

An almost complete human skull fossil that could date back 100,000 years was unearthed in Henan last month, Chinese archaeologists announced yesterday... The Henan find was made after two years of excavation at the site in Xuchang. Archaeologists have worked on an area of 260 sq m, merely one-hundredth of the Paleolithic site... The fossil consisted of 16 pieces of the skull with protruding eyebrows and a small forehead. More astonishing than the completeness of the skull is that it still has a fossilized membrane on the inner side, so scientists can track the nerves of the Paleolithic ancestors... The pieces were fossilized because they were buried 5 m near the mouth of a spring, whose water had a high content of calcium. Besides the skull, more than 30,000 animal fossils, and stone and bone artifacts were found in the small area in the past two years. The pieces of the human skull showed up just when archaeologists were going home for the Spring Festival... The Paleolithic site was discovered in 1965, when IVPP scientists found animal fossils and stone artifacts from soil dug for a well. Excavation started in June 2005.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: asians; china; eastasians; godsgravesglyphs; humanity; multiregionalism; origins; pekingman; prehistory; tianyuancave
100,000-year-old human skull found

1 posted on 01/23/2008 11:48:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/23/2008 11:49:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
it still has a fossilized membrane on the inner side, so scientists can track the nerves of the Paleolithic ancestors

Nerves in the dura mater?

3 posted on 01/23/2008 11:50:39 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

Looks like a cabbage leaf to me. :’)


4 posted on 01/23/2008 11:55:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Pieces of the ancient human skull fossil are seen in this picture
provided by State Administration of Cultural Heritage.
5 posted on 01/23/2008 11:58:55 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: SunkenCiv
100,000-year-old human skull found

Seated in the front row of a White House Presser.

6 posted on 01/23/2008 11:58:56 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: RightWhale

Those are blood vessels, branches of the middle meningeal artery. The dura does have nerves, too which are branches of the trigeminal nerve.


7 posted on 01/23/2008 12:34:05 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Not to discount the sexual prowess of the rabbit, BUT, there's a reason it's not called BUNNY STYLE.)
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To: SunkenCiv

At first glance I thought that they had opened up Robert Byrd’s head.


8 posted on 01/23/2008 1:21:05 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: SunkenCiv

9 posted on 01/23/2008 2:07:55 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SunkenCiv
An almost complete human skull fossil that could date back 100,000 years was unearthed in Henan last month, Chinese archaeologists announced yesterday.

Besides the skull, more than 30,000 animal fossils, and stone and bone artifacts were found in the small area in the past two years.

That's an awful lot of animal fossils in a 'small area' but no mention of species?

Is the age of the skull based on 'protruding eyebrows and a small forehead'?

'Stone and bone artifacts' hmmm...Hey China, show me!

10 posted on 01/23/2008 2:29:12 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Ancient skull offers clues to origins of Chinese

Jonathan Watts in Beijing
Wednesday January 23, 2008
Guardian Unlimited (UK)

Some of the pieces of the ancient human skull unearthed in central China’s Henan province. Photograph: China Daily/Reuters

Chinese archaeologists are hailing their biggest discovery in the country for almost 80 years after unearthing an ancient skull that could provide a clue about the origins of a fifth of the world's population.

The fossilised skull - named Xuchang Man after its location - is thought to date back 80,000 to 100,000 years, a period that has long been a mystery to scientists.

It contains a rare fossilised membrane that archaeologists hope will reveal important details about the nervous system of people from the era and settle a contentious academic debate about whether the majority of China's 1.3bn population are mainly indigenous, descended from African migrants or intermixed.

The almost complete skull, which comprises of 16 fragments, was found in the central province of Henan last month. It has protruding eyebrows and a small forehead. Government officials said the find was second in importance only to that of Peking Man in 1929, when archeologists discovered five almost complete skulls and other bones believed to date back 250,000 to 500,000 years.

"It is the greatest discovery in China after the Peking Man and Upper Cave Man skull fossils were found in Beijing early last century, and will shed light on a critical period of human evolution," Shan Jixiang, director of the State Administration of Cultural Heritage was quoted as saying by the Xinhua news agency.

The Xuchang site had been of interest since the mid 1960s when villagers found ancient tools while they were digging a well. But it was only two years ago, after the spring dried up, that the Henan cultural relics and archaeology research institute began excavating the area.

The 17-member team has also found thousands of animal fossils and other artefacts.

The skull was unearthed in freezing conditions just as the last two archaeologists on the site were closing down the dig ahead of the upcoming lunar new year holiday. The framents were found at five metres depth near the calcified mouth of the spring.

"When we started digging on this site, we expected to find something important, but not this important," Li Zhanyang, who led the excavation, told the Guardian. "When we discovered the skull we couldn't believe it. We were thrilled, but we also felt a lot of pressure."

Although not as old as other discoveries, he said the skull could fill a huge gap in our knowledge of human evolution.

Most palaeoanthropologists believe all modern homo sapiens are descended primarily from people who came out of Africa about 60,000 years ago. Another view is that there was significant interbreeding in Europe and elsewhere with Neanderthals. Some Chinese scientists make a stronger link with Peking man, saying there is more regional continuity than western scientists believe.

The skull fragments are now at the China Academy Of Sciences in Beijing, where they will be reconstructed and analysed. If there is any residual organic material, DNA analysis may be possible. Foreign scientists say the potential of the find is enormous.

"This is a crucial period in human evolutionary history, but we know almost nothing about it. Anything coming from that period of great interest to outside world," said Dennis Etler, a palaeoanthropologist at Cabrillo College in California. "This sounds like a breakthrough."

Li and his team hope to excavate further at the site in the hope of finding evidence of how ancient Asians used fire and built dwellings. They have found fragments of charred animals bones, which has led them to believe that China's ancestors cooked meat at an early stage.

The controversy about the origins of today's Chinese people may not be cleared up completely however. Comparisons with the nation's oldest dwellers will be hampered by the disappearance of the skulls of Peking Man, which went missing in mysterious circumstances in 1941.

11 posted on 01/23/2008 3:12:30 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: SunkenCiv

In case there was any foul play involved, can you tell me where you were on that Thursday night, 98,000 BC?


12 posted on 01/23/2008 3:18:22 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: SunkenCiv

13 posted on 01/23/2008 3:23:05 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: blam
Another view is that there was significant interbreeding in Europe and elsewhere with Neanderthals. Some Chinese scientists make a stronger link with Peking man, saying there is more regional continuity than western scientists believe.

And one day someone will dig up this Melanesian's skull and try to tell us it is 100,000 years old...

14 posted on 01/23/2008 3:35:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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Any other freeper suspicious this is just another attempt by China to further their argument that Chinese and other East Asian homo sapiens (sapiens) originated from Asian homo erectus?

The article didn't state what the man supposedly was (homo erectus or sapiens).

15 posted on 01/23/2008 5:14:32 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

A little. But these look legit. The only real question will become, is the dating correct?


16 posted on 01/23/2008 9:56:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: Pharmboy

Hey, I was out of town when that happened. Way out of town. So far out of town, the town wasn’t even there yet. That’s how way out.


17 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: blam

I told those kids to play frisbee somewhere else.


18 posted on 01/23/2008 9:57:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: blam

I told those kids to play frisbee somewhere else.


19 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: MarkBsnr

Probably his older brother. No brains were found.


20 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; GSWarrior
That just triggers recollections of a deeply disturbing image. In fact, I don't even have to post the image itself, everyone will just hallucinate her face, possibly with some odd, surreal, dreamlike alterations.
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21 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: NormsRevenge; Fred Nerks; blam

Thanks!


22 posted on 01/23/2008 9:58:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: blam

In fact, I told them twice.


23 posted on 01/23/2008 9:59:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: blam
Ancient skull dug up in Henan may bury 'Out of Africa' theory
Stephen Chen
Thursday, January 24, 2008
South China Morning Post
...an anatomically modern Homo sapiens nearly 100,000 years old. If the estimate is correct and if the skull, broken into 16 pieces seemingly by a powerful strike, demonstrates a feature of the East Asian population, then one of palaeoanthropology's paradigms - "Out of Africa" - may be shattered... Chinese palaeoanthropologists have unearthed some evidence in the past few decades - some teeth, bones, flint tools and domestic animal remains. But what they found was scant, partial or indirect compared with remains found in Africa - an arid, less populated and largely exposed continent where conditions for fossil preservation and discovery are nearly perfect... The preliminary result of optically stimulated luminescence dating completed by Peking University shows that the age of the skull ranges from 80,000 to 100,000 years.

24 posted on 01/23/2008 10:53:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

I believe very little of what comes out of China. Proof of what they say needs to be verified by outsiders. They are Communists and all Communists are excellent liars.


25 posted on 01/24/2008 6:40:17 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: SunkenCiv
Ancient skull dug up in Henan may bury 'Out of Africa' theory

That should have been the headline on the lead article. (It will get lots more attention)

26 posted on 01/24/2008 7:32:10 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
Color me skeptical. The DNA evidence seems strongly supportive of out of Africa.
27 posted on 01/24/2008 9:25:05 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

Please add me to your GGG list. Thx.


28 posted on 01/24/2008 9:48:58 AM PST by BGHater ('A Nation's best defense is an educated citizenry'-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: colorado tanker

There isn’t any DNA evidence that does that. There has been plenty of spin in that regard, though. :’)


29 posted on 01/24/2008 10:32:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: blam

It won’t be long before the dating is condemned, starting with Chris Stringer. Speaking of replacement, he needs that.


30 posted on 01/24/2008 10:33:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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Most Ancient Case Of Tuberculosis Found In 500,000-year-old Human;
Points To Modern Health Issues
Science Daily | 12-7-2007 | University of Texas at Austin.
Posted on 12/07/2007 8:10:26 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1936456/posts


31 posted on 01/24/2008 10:54:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: colorado tanker
"The DNA evidence seems strongly supportive of out of Africa."

Yup.

Late Pleostocene Human Population Bottlenecks. . . (Toba)

Maybe humans from Asia migrated to Africa...then, Toba killed everyone except those who went to Africa. That would explain the DNA. We need some really old human DNA, huh?

32 posted on 01/24/2008 11:01:08 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
?Maybe humans from Asia migrated to Africa...then, Toba killed everyone except those who went to Africa. That would explain the DNA. We need some really old human DNA, huh?

Yup, that would explain it, alright. :-))

33 posted on 01/24/2008 11:50:49 AM PST by colorado tanker
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sidebar:
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

34 posted on 01/24/2008 11:55:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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Fossilised skull may end row over origin of 1.3bn Chinese
Jonathan Watts in Beijing
Thursday January 24, 2008
The Guardian
Additional reporting by Chen Shi
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,,2245680,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=12
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,332218485-108142,00.html


35 posted on 01/25/2008 10:17:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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