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Scientists use MRI at Kadlec to look at ancient Roman scrolls
Tri-City Herald ^ | Thursday, Jul. 10, 2008 | Sara Schilling

Posted on 07/11/2008 9:39:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The director of MRI and radiology at Kadlec Medicl Center watched a TV documentary years ago about efforts to read the ancient scrolls and the story stuck with him. This week, Iuliano is using his expertise to scan fragments of the charred scrolls in hopes of discovering what they say... The papyrus scrolls were discovered more than 200 years ago in a villa in what was the Roman town of Herculaneum. The town was buried along with the more famous city of Pompeii when Vesuvius erupted. The scrolls make up the only surviving library from antiquity, Iuliano said. Scholars have been able to unfold and read some of them, but others are like charcoal bricks. Iuliano had the idea of using Magnetic Resonance Imaging, or MRI, to differentiate between the layers of those heavily damaged scrolls without having to handle them. He also hoped to distinguish the ink from the papyrus. He eventually connected with Brent Seales, a professor of computer science at the University of Kentucky, who's developing software and hardware to allow for that kind of virtual archeology. They agreed to work together... The fragments also were scanned Wednesday at Environmental Molecular Sciences Laboratory, which is at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; papyrus; pozzuoli; romanempire
Dr. Edward Iuliano, right, a radiologist at Kadlec Medical Center, Brian Wilson, a radiologic technologist at Kadlec and Matt Field, a graduate student at the University of Kentucky, look at the first MRI scan of a fragment of scroll recovered from Herculaneum, an ancient Roman city that was buried in the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 A.D. [Herald]
Scientists use MRI at Kadlec to look at ancient Roman scrolls

1 posted on 07/11/2008 9:39:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/11/2008 9:40:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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3 posted on 07/11/2008 9:41:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, I wonder what they say?

- “Keeping It In The Family” by Julia and Gius “Little Boots” Caesar?
- Claudius’s history?
- “Cooking With Mushrooms” by Agrippina Junior?
- “Lyrics from the Nerona”?
- “Tactics” by M. S. Otho?
- “Appealing To The Crowd” by Aulus Vitellius

We can only wonder.


4 posted on 07/11/2008 11:01:14 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

It Takes a Village to Raze an Army .... a German acount of the welcome wagon that took care of Varus and his three legions?


5 posted on 07/11/2008 11:17:48 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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To: Kiss Me Hardy

No, no! “It Takes A Legion To Raze A village”.


6 posted on 07/12/2008 1:29:47 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: SunkenCiv

If this works, it will be interesting to hear of what they have discovered.


7 posted on 07/12/2008 5:52:26 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wouldn’t it be great if some archeologist in Herculaneum’s villa has a chance to repeat Howard Carter’s words on opening Tut’s tomb: I see wonderful things.

If they can recover some of those ancient lost works it will be a time for rejoicing for historians.


8 posted on 07/12/2008 6:03:23 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think I remember that this villa was owned by Caesar’s father in law(Piso?). It would be fantastic if all these documents could eventually be read.


9 posted on 07/12/2008 8:40:34 AM PDT by spyone
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To: SunkenCiv
Thank you for the post. I have toured Herculaneum and most of the former Roman villas in Baia, Bacoli, Pozzuoli and the surrounding countryside, many, many times over the last 40 years. I hope that the scrolls can be read as some may be copies of the library at Alexander in Egypt.
10 posted on 07/12/2008 12:21:12 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool stuff!

Well, cool now. At this moment. Not being cool earlier is sorta part of the problem.

Or is that our opportunity?

Maybe both.


11 posted on 07/12/2008 1:45:43 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wonderful news.


12 posted on 08/12/2008 10:45:51 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: InABunkerUnderSF; Kiss Me Hardy; Dustbunny; wildbill; spyone; YOUGOTIT; Rurudyne; Ciexyz

The handful of works known so far appear to be Epicurian texts.

Philodemus: The Villa of the Papyri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philodemus#The_Villa_of_the_Papyri

The Villa of the Papyri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_of_the_Papyri

[snip] Piso’s home had four levels disposed in a series of terraces on the sloping site and was one of the most luxurious houses in all of Herculaneum and Pompeii... There is still 2,800 [square meters] left to be excavated of this villa suburbana, the most luxurious in the resort of Herculaneum. Beneath the excavated area, new excavations in the 1990s revealed two previously undiscovered floors to the villa [end]

The search for the lost library of Rome
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article505322.ece

[snip] Once the villa had been stripped, 200 years ago, the tunnels were sealed. But last week a group of the world’s leading classical scholars gathered in Oxford to demand that the site be reopened. They believe that there is a better-than-evens chance — “quite likely”, is how Robert Fowler, professor of Greek at Bristol University, puts it — that the villa may have possessed at least one other library still to be uncovered. [end]

AND HERE’S A LAUGH, and maybe a good long cry:

Piso Theory by “Roman Piso”
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso07.htm


13 posted on 08/13/2008 12:05:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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villa of the papyri image search:
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14 posted on 08/13/2008 12:05:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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also of interest:

New life given to ancient Egyptian texts stored at Stanford for decades
Stanford University | July 23, 2008 | Adam Gorlick
Posted on 07/24/2008 8:09:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2050553/posts


15 posted on 08/13/2008 12:11:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Roman History Books and More: the library of the villa dei papiri

16 posted on 08/13/2008 12:22:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the update.

Also, as for: “AND HERE’S A LAUGH, and maybe a good long cry:”

Them people are NVTS....


17 posted on 08/13/2008 6:40:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

There at least used to be some (more than one) forum over on Delphi Forums, run by Roman Piso. Another howler (related to that ridiculous hoax “theory”) was a short-lived (perhaps by the same joker, or perhaps concocted as an elaborate lampoon) “theory” that the Roman Empire was hoaxed ad hoc, as a way to justify the Venetian Empire of the late medieval and the Renaissance. Imagine, Hadrian’s Wall wasn’t built by Hadrian, because there never was a Hadrian. Of course, the wacky “New Chronology” out of Russia (not related to the New Chronology by David Rohl) claims that King Arthur was actually a Russian, that whole dynasties in England were really distorted versions of earlier Byzantine rulers, etc etc.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 10:34:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

‘Those who have rewritten the past are doomed to actually forget it.’


19 posted on 08/14/2008 9:57:25 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

I *like* that.


20 posted on 08/14/2008 10:35:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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