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Cretaceous Chicken: Bus-Sized Dinosaur Breathed Like Birds Do
foxnews ^ | September 30, 2008

Posted on 09/30/2008 3:08:33 PM PDT by Justice Department

Dinosaur that lived 85 million years ago was size of a bus, but breathed like a bird

A huge carnivorous dinosaur that lived about 85 million years ago had a breathing system much like that of today's birds, a new analysis of fossils reveals, reinforcing the evolutionary link between dinos and modern birds.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bigbird; birds; chicken; cretaceous; dinosaur; godsgravesglyphs; microraptorgui; oldearthspeculation; storkzilla; thunderbird; urbanmyths

The finding sheds light on the transition between theropods (a group of two-legged carnivorous dinosaurs) and the emergence of birds.

Scientists think birds evolved from a group of theropods called maniraptors, some 150 million years ago during the Jurassic period, which lasted from about 206 million to 144 million years ago.

GIANT CHICKEN ROAMED EUROPE IN THE CRETACEOUS!

A Czech archeology team have discovered the missing link between dinosaurs and chickens. The giant skeleton, excavated in the Moldova river valley, is currently on display in the National Museum in Praque. Wishbone anybody?

1 posted on 09/30/2008 3:08:34 PM PDT by Justice Department
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2 posted on 09/30/2008 3:10:56 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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3 posted on 09/30/2008 3:13:25 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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To: Justice Department
Cavemen must've ate well..


4 posted on 09/30/2008 3:15:13 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Just Say NObama!)
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http://people.eku.edu/ritchisong/birdrespiration.html

Nothing new as the the mode of breathing


5 posted on 09/30/2008 3:15:26 PM PDT by threeoeight
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To: F15Eagle; Justice Department

Eat mor Befe?


6 posted on 09/30/2008 3:16:44 PM PDT by SmithL (Drill Dammit!)
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7 posted on 09/30/2008 3:17:25 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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Q: Why did the Cretaceous Chicken cross the road?

A: Cretaceous Chicken does whatever the hell he wants to.

8 posted on 09/30/2008 3:18:09 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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‘dino-fuzz’

"Then, in the late 1990’s, came a scientific bombshell – Sinosauropteryx, a dinosaur, with feathers. Preserved in fine-grained lake sediments deposited in the Early Cretaceous, about 128 million years ago, in what is now north-east China, this turkey-sized theropod exhibits clear traces of skin bearing tiny, hair-like protofeathers: ‘dino-fuzz’. At least, that is what some researchers claimed, but others were not so sure and wanted more and better evidence. Thankfully, basic economics – selling fossils is far more lucrative than tilling the earth – solved the problem and the Chinese lake deposits began to produce lots and lots and lots more fossils, among them many beautifully preserved small theropods – with feathers. Some bore ‘dino-fuzz’, some had rather simple, but clearly feather-like structures and some came with feathers that were indistinguishable from the feathers of early birds fossilised in the same rocks."

9 posted on 09/30/2008 3:24:21 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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Dino ping


10 posted on 09/30/2008 3:26:53 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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But a giant Cretaceous chicken still tastes just like ... chicken.
11 posted on 09/30/2008 3:27:11 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy voting McCain/Palin)
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To: threeoeight
"Nothing new as the the mode of breathing"

Right. Good air in bad air out. Works for me.


12 posted on 09/30/2008 3:28:34 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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"But a giant Cretaceous chicken still tastes just like ... chicken."

Practically everything...

13 posted on 09/30/2008 3:32:55 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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To: SmithL

Tastes like chicken

14 posted on 09/30/2008 3:38:18 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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15 posted on 09/30/2008 3:49:27 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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Meat-eating Dinosaur From Argentina Had Bird-like Breathing System
Science Daily | Sep. 30, 2008
Posted on 09/30/2008 9:49:28 AM PDT by Soliton
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16 posted on 09/30/2008 3:49:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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dino-chicken

The world’s first biplanes were ... dinosaurs? Scientists say dino-chicken used two sets of wings to flit between trees

Like the Wright brothers, the first flying dinosaurs took to the air with two sets of wings.

New analysis of the winged Microraptor gui suggests that the first feathered dinos relied on a biplane-like wing configuration to swoop from tree to tree. The result may settle a century-old controversy over how the first feathered creatures achieved flight.

“It is intriguing to contemplate that perhaps avian flight, like aircraft evolution, went through a biplane stage before the monoplane was introduced,” said Sankar Chatterjee of Texas Tech University. “It seems likely that Microraptor invented the biplane 125 million years before the Wright 1903 Flyer.”

18 posted on 09/30/2008 3:54:56 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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To: SmithL
"Eat mor Befe?"


19 posted on 09/30/2008 3:59:01 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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To: SmithL

lol


20 posted on 09/30/2008 4:01:10 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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21 posted on 09/30/2008 4:03:54 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: allmendream
Dino Chicken - only visible through night-vision 3D binoculars in the Florida everglades.


22 posted on 09/30/2008 4:17:46 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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To: LiberConservative
"But a giant Cretaceous chicken still tastes just like ... chicken."

Dino Chicken Nuggets


23 posted on 09/30/2008 4:21:16 PM PDT by Justice Department ("Comedy is allied to justice." Aristophenes)
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To: LiberConservative
Study Identifies Dinosaur Protein

Repeated analysis of proteins from a Tyrannosaurus rex found new evidence of a link between dinosaurs and birds: Of the seven reconstructed protein sequences, three were closely related to chickens.

In a retrieval once thought unattainable, scientists have recovered and identified proteins in a bone of a well-preserved Tyrannosaurus rex that lived and died and was fossilized 68 million years ago.

The scientists say the success, with advanced research techniques, opens the door for the first time to the exploration of molecular-level relationships of ancient, extinct animals, instead of just relying on their skeletal remains.

Dinosaur fossil hunters are planning nine expeditions this summer to search wide and deep for more specimens as promising candidates for similar tests. A few large dinosaur bones already in laboratories may be examined for surviving traces of organic matter.

The earliest previously identified ancient proteins were from mammoths that died about 300,000 years ago. The oldest confirmed samples of DNA, a more direct bearer of information of molecular evolution, but more degradable, have come from Neanderthals that lived 30,000 to 50,000 years ago. The extraction of DNA would be necessary for studies in dinosaur genetics and for cloning experiments.

Repeated analysis of the T-rex proteins, the researchers said, uncovered new evidence of a link between dinosaurs and birds, a widely held but contentious hypothesis. Three of the seven reconstructed protein sequences were closely related to chickens. The scientists resisted being drawn into speculation on the likely taste of a T-rex drumstick.

Two research teams are reporting the findings in today’s issue of the journal Science. The principal investigators discussed the results with reporters in a teleconference on Wednesday.

Speaking of the doubts she had had going into the work, Mary Higby Schweitzer of North Carolina State University, leader of one of the groups, said, “We had always assumed that preservation does not extend to the cellular level” in ancient fossils.

Dr. Schweitzer described several tests conducted on soft tissues found deep inside the tyrannosaur’s femur, or thighbone, excavated in eastern Montana. She reported the surprising tissue discovery two years ago.

Though barely detectable, proteins of collagen 1, the main organic component of bone, were separated and examined. Fragments, or peptides, of the protein were pieced together into strands of the seven sequences. Three of these reacted with antibodies to chicken collagen. Two others appeared possibly related to living creatures: a frog and a newt.

The findings, Dr. Schweitzer and her colleagues wrote, “suggested that, under certain conditions, remnant organic constituents may persist across geological time.”

The second team, headed by John M. Asara of the Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, said its independent tests had confirmed the presence of proteins in the tissue.

The researchers subjected samples of the material extracted by Dr. Schweitzer to an examination by mass spectroscopy, which breaks down material to its component parts to determine its mass and chemical makeup. The technology is applied in medical research to analyzing more precisely the nature of disease-causing agents.

Dr. Asara said the most difficult part of the research had been making sure that all the “brown gritty contaminants” were separated out of the specimen. After several steps in the purification process, the protein fragments were separated from one another, measured for mass and joined in seven separate strings of amino acid.

Lewis C. Cantley, a Harvard biology professor on the team, said he was satisfied that the findings were “unlikely due to contamination.”

In a press release from Harvard, Dr. Cantley said, “Basically, this is the breakthrough that says it’s possible to get sequences beyond one million years,” which had been thought of as the absolute time barrier for the preservation of organic matter in animal remains. In the fossilization process, minerals replace the constituents of bones, turning them to stone.

Similar tests by Dr. Asara’s team also isolated and pieced together more than 70 protein fragments from a mastodon estimated to be 160,000 to 600,000 years old. The researchers said this provided further evidence of the staying power of ancient protein.

“We can now start to create relationships between extinct and living organisms,” Dr. Asara said, adding that the T-rex tests supported the idea “that birds are derived from dinosaurs or are closely related.”

Mark A. Norell, a dinosaur expert at the American Museum of Natural History who was not involved in the research, said the importance of the findings was in showing that “biomolecules could be stable over this long period of time.” The evidence for a dinosaur connection with chickens is less significant, he said, contending that “all the data already confirm the dinosaur-bird relationship.”

The huge tyrannosaur thigh was discovered in 2003 by Jack Horner of Montana State University, a longtime dinosaur paleontologist. It was excavated at a depth of 60 feet in the Hell Creek Formation, a dinosaur-rich bed of sedimentary rock underlying much of Montana and Wyoming.

Dr. Schweitzer, a biologist affiliated with Montana State as well as North Carolina State, cut into the thick bone and recovered the soft tissues, including blood vessels and possibly cells that, she said at the time, “retain some of their original flexibility, elasticity and resilience.” This had never been found in a dinosaur before and prompted the investigations into the nature of the organic matter.

Mr. Horner suggested that the size of the bone and the depth of its entombment accounted for the unusual preservation of the tissues. Thick bones, he said, afford interior matter more protection from environmental degradation. Another factor was that this particular dinosaur was buried in a virtually oxygen-free setting very soon after death. The depth may also have insulated it over time.

Mr. Horner said paleontologists should look for other candidates for soft tissue retrieval among remains of the largest dinosaurs resting under tens of feet of rock. Such excavations, he conceded, will not be easy. But this will be the quest of more than 100 fossil hunters fanning out this summer in the American West and as far away as the Gobi Desert of Mongolia.

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Thunderbird


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Microraptor gui


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Microraptor gui


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Microraptor gui


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