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Defending Byzantium
Al-Ahram ^ | 20 - 26 November 2008, Issue No. 923 | David Tresilian

Posted on 11/24/2008 3:55:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Lasting some 11 centuries from the foundation of the city of Constantinople, today's Istanbul, on the site of the Greek city of Byzantium by the Roman emperor Constantine in 330 CE to its final defeat at the hands of the Ottomans in 1453, at its height the Byzantine Empire took in the whole of the eastern Mediterranean and stretched from Anatolia and the Balkans to Egypt and north Africa. It always styled itself the heir of the Roman Empire and of classical civilisation as a whole.

Examples of Byzantine architecture can still be seen in Istanbul in the shape of the Hagia Sophia, the church of the holy wisdom, built by the emperor Justinian in the 6th century CE, and in the ruins of the Byzantine city walls. Memories of the empire are scattered across the Mediterranean, from the mosaics of the Byzantine emperors in the churches of the Italian coastal city of Ravenna to the traditions continued by the monks of St. Catherine's Monastery in the Egyptian Sinai.

However, Byzantium has sometimes suffered from a bad press, at least in western Europe, and this is summed up in views expressed by the 18th- century English historian Edward Gibbon in his Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. "In the revolution of ten centuries" of Byzantine history, Gibbon wrote, "not a single discovery was made to exalt the dignity or promote the happiness of mankind."

...Anyone interested in the history of the eastern Mediterranean, of Christianity, or of relations between Byzantine, Arab and Ottoman Turkish civilisations can not fail to learn from visiting this exhibition.

(Excerpt) Read more at weekly.ahram.org.eg ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: byzantium; godsgravesglyphs; greece; hagiasophia; turkey
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1 posted on 11/24/2008 3:55:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 11/24/2008 3:57:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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3 posted on 11/24/2008 3:58:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Hagia Sophia / Byzantium ping to read later


4 posted on 11/24/2008 4:04:44 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: SunkenCiv
Moon over Bizantium


5 posted on 11/24/2008 4:10:47 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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To: SunkenCiv
...its final defeat at the hands of the Ottomans in 1453

Constantinople fell in 1453 and Columbus sailed for America in 1492. That's only 39 years between the trailing edge of the Roman Empire and the leading edge of the American era. I usually think of Rome and America as being totally separated by a huge gulf of history but they actually came pretty close to overlapping.

6 posted on 11/24/2008 4:18:35 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

That’s a good point. Only some 330 years between the two.


7 posted on 11/24/2008 4:24:50 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Yardstick

Good point. One historian remarked, about the Roman Empire, that any entity capable of unifying lowland Scotland with Arabia must have had it goin’ on. (I’m paraphrasing)


8 posted on 11/24/2008 4:25:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

mark


9 posted on 11/24/2008 4:26:29 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: SunkenCiv
It's Istanbul, not Constantinople...

(Well, somebody had to post it...)

10 posted on 11/24/2008 4:29:28 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it’s Istanbul not Constantinople
Been a long time gone
Old Constantinople’s still has Turkish delight
On a moonlight night

Evr’y gal in Constantinople
Is a Miss-stanbul, not Constantinople
So if you’ve date in Constantinople
She’ll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it, I can’t say
(People just liked it better that way)

[ Four Lads Lyrics are found on www.songlyrics.com ]
Take me back to Constantinople
No, you can’t go back to Constantinople
Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks’

Istanbul!!

Istanbul!!

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it, I can’t say
(People just liked it better that way)

Take me back to Constantinople
No, you can’t go back to Constantinople
Now it’s Istanbul, not Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That’s nobody’s business but the Turks’

‘stanbul!!


11 posted on 11/24/2008 4:48:32 PM PST by JSDude1
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Yeah, and just think — in 1492 there easily would have been people alive who had lived in Constantinople before it fell and who would’ve thought of themselves as Romans, or at least who had lived part of their lives as Romans. It’s poignant to think them hearing for the first time of the new world that had been discovered and named America.


12 posted on 11/24/2008 4:55:37 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: JSDude1

Woohah! ‘Stambool BTT! (Sound of serious chair-dancing in background...)


13 posted on 11/24/2008 5:07:09 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Yardstick

Do the Russian Tsars count as continuations of the Russians?


14 posted on 11/24/2008 5:07:16 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Yardstick

Well they were Roman... descended from the Empire, they really were the real deal.. unlike the so called holy roman empire which was really kinda .. meh


15 posted on 11/24/2008 5:08:09 PM PST by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks Civ. The photos are gorgeous. The Icon of Saint George is magnificent, and a keeper.


16 posted on 11/24/2008 5:08:30 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: SunkenCiv

bump


17 posted on 11/24/2008 5:09:29 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: tbw2

Well they thought of themselves as such,,, a lot of their culture was from contact with the Empire.


18 posted on 11/24/2008 5:12:13 PM PST by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: SunkenCiv; All


BYZANTINE ICON ST GEORGE & THE DRAGON


19 posted on 11/24/2008 5:14:45 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: SunkenCiv

I read a great book, entitled, “Byzantium,” by Stephen Lawhead. If you enjoy historical fiction, I would recommend it.


20 posted on 11/24/2008 5:37:58 PM PST by keats5 ("I hope for his sake, Joe Biden got that VP thing in writing."- Rudy)
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