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Giant cattle to be bred back from extinction
telegraph.co.uk ^ | Jan. 18, 2010 | Nick Squires

Posted on 01/18/2010 6:38:36 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Aurochs were immortalised in prehistoric cave paintings and admired for their brute strength and "elephantine" size by Julius Caesar.

But despite their having gone the way of the dodo and the woolly mammoth, there are plans to bring the giant animals back to life.

The huge cattle with sweeping horns which once roamed the forests of Europe have not been seen for nearly 400 years.

Now Italian scientists are hoping to use genetic expertise and selective breeding of modern-day wild cattle to recreate the fearsome beasts which weighed around 2,200lb and stood 6.5 feet at the shoulder.

Breeds of large cattle which most closely resemble Bos primigenius, such as Highland cattle and the white Maremma breed from Italy, are being bred with each other in a technique known as "back-breeding".

At the same time, scientists say they have for the first time created a map of the auroch's genome, so that they know precisely what type of animal they are trying to replicate.

"We were able to analyse auroch DNA from preserved bone material and create a rough map of its genome that should allow us to breed animals nearly identical to aurochs," said team leader Donato Matassino, head of the Consortium for Experimental Biotechnology in Benevento, in the southern Campania region.

"We've already made our first round of crosses between three breeds native to Britain, Spain and Italy. Now we just have to wait and see how the calves turn out."

The last animal disappeared from the British Isles in the Iron Age and the breed was declared extinct in 1627 after a female died in the forests of Poland.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; auroch; aurochs; cattle; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble
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1 posted on 01/18/2010 6:38:38 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ah, no. Too much methane. Not green.


2 posted on 01/18/2010 6:42:15 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wow! Imagine the huge cow farts these beasts will produce. The global warming freaks will go nuts!


3 posted on 01/18/2010 6:42:33 PM PST by fourmation599 (Obama: Hope and Change? More like Taxes and Treason!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Paul Bunyan had a great blue ox,
It's length was a hundred city blocks,
And when he walked, he stopped the clocks in all of Minnesota."

from "Land of Giants", The New Christy Minstrels

4 posted on 01/18/2010 6:43:44 PM PST by stboz
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To: fourmation599

Imagine the huge steaks on my grill!


5 posted on 01/18/2010 6:43:58 PM PST by jacksonstate
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dibs on the Porterhouse.

6 posted on 01/18/2010 6:45:52 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yes, but are they tasty?


7 posted on 01/18/2010 6:47:40 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I just saw one on another post...her name was “Mo’Nique”


8 posted on 01/18/2010 6:47:47 PM PST by BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL (Onward thru the smoke, mirrors, and B.S....)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
PETA will have a ...well, a cow.

Speaking of cows, I recently dreamt I had a pet one that acted just like a golden retriever. Can't wait until they breed those.

9 posted on 01/18/2010 6:48:05 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (screw 'em.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Aurochs? Big deal. I want them to bring back T-Rex, or any other dino.


10 posted on 01/18/2010 6:48:50 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: SunkenCiv

I want a wooly mammoth.


11 posted on 01/18/2010 6:49:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Can they bring back the Mammoth too with Elephants


12 posted on 01/18/2010 6:52:17 PM PST by the_daug
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To: fourmation599

On the other hand Mickey-D’s should be pleased!


13 posted on 01/18/2010 6:52:44 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m pretty tolerant of my neighbor’s cattle getting through the fence and grazing in my bean field, but I’d have to draw the line with these bad boys.


14 posted on 01/18/2010 6:52:59 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Free ThinkerNY
yubba dubba do.


15 posted on 01/18/2010 6:54:26 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (screw 'em.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You beat me to it, LOL!

“Here we come on the run with a burger on a bun...” LOL!


16 posted on 01/18/2010 6:56:22 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The need to bring back the New Zealand giant moa, which were hunted to extinction about 600 years by the Maori — some of those peaceful indigenous peoples so acutely in harmony with nature that we always hear about from liberals...


17 posted on 01/18/2010 6:58:04 PM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

remember Dash Riprock? And of course, Kazoo.


18 posted on 01/18/2010 7:03:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (screw 'em.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Two bulls were in the field when a trailer pulled up with the new bull.An old bull and a young bull.
The new bull was huge and mean.

The old bull looked at the new bull and said: “He looks like a nice feller, he can have some of my cows”.
The young bull started pawing the ground, snorting, and tossing his head.
The old bull said “are you nuts? look at the size of him boy. The young bull replied “I have and I want him to know I’m a bull”.


19 posted on 01/18/2010 7:04:09 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When I saw the thread title, I was hoping this would be about the aurochs. Very cool!


20 posted on 01/18/2010 7:04:28 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A 2,200 pound cow? That sure is a lot of BULL. (and Bullsh*t).

New business: 100% pasteurized pasture paddies, i.e. fertilizer. From the movie “Hard Bodies”


21 posted on 01/18/2010 7:05:46 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I want popcorn cattle that I can raise in my yard. 7 or 8 pounds when butchered.


22 posted on 01/18/2010 7:06:00 PM PST by listenhillary (FU Cass Sunstein - You are the embodiment of evil)
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To: BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL
There's another in the White House .... no wait ... that's a wookie.

Sorry.

23 posted on 01/18/2010 7:06:00 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: philetus

Took a second try, but LOL!


24 posted on 01/18/2010 7:08:00 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just imagine the cow patties as fuel!!


25 posted on 01/18/2010 7:12:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m putting in an order for a dimitredon.


26 posted on 01/18/2010 7:13:54 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ON 1-19-09 GAS WAS, ON AVERAGE IN MEMPHIS, $1.43 A GALLON.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How bout one of these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ChalicotheriumDB1.jpg


27 posted on 01/18/2010 7:17:22 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why? Wasn’t the point of domestication to make herbivores that were convenient to raise for meat? What’s the point of producing a breed that will need ultra-strong ultra-expensive fences and be unherdable by ordinary herding dogs?


28 posted on 01/18/2010 7:18:22 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: listenhillary
Will these work?


29 posted on 01/18/2010 7:20:07 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: counterpunch

I vote for the Tasmanian Tiger, which only went extinct in the 1930s, I think.


30 posted on 01/18/2010 7:20:56 PM PST by Otho
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To: Free ThinkerNY
...of modern-day wild cattle to...

Not "wild." Feral!

31 posted on 01/18/2010 7:21:13 PM PST by Poincare
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve seen sheep and pigs or boars which were “back-bred.” Originally sheep were not sheared, they were combed. The boars were developed from regular pigs and in fact the piglets still look like the barnyard varieties but the parents were scary. I guess that’s going on in Texas too. This was in a park in Ireland. Wonderful place.


32 posted on 01/18/2010 7:21:28 PM PST by Mercat (With all due respect . . . this is the people's seat.)
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To: The_Reader_David
That is what I was thinking. Think of the size and type of chute needed to work on a bovine of that size. Think about the type of fencing needed to keep one on the premises; what would be the feed conversion of an animal that big..efficient or inefficient? A horse would be dead meat driving a bull or cow that large and with those instincts for survival.
33 posted on 01/18/2010 7:23:52 PM PST by vetvetdoug (FUBO, a fashion statement for conservatives.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Can't wait!


34 posted on 01/18/2010 7:28:22 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: vetvetdoug

You’d have to use dogs.


35 posted on 01/18/2010 7:29:38 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Re-creating this breed was a NAZI Dream. They came pretty close, and there are some humongous cattle running around the Fatherland as a result.

The Italian Boffins had better be careful about what they wish for. The Italians once imported water buffaloes to work the swampy rice areas and before they learned how to handle them, they wreaked a quite a bit of havoc and went wild. Took a while to get the beasts under control and domesticate them.

Buffalo Mozzarella is really made from Buffalo Milk!

36 posted on 01/18/2010 7:39:38 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio.)
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To: counterpunch
The need to bring back the New Zealand giant moa,

And the Dodo. Should be easy, what with all the specimens hanging about museums.

37 posted on 01/18/2010 7:41:28 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Buffalo Mozzarella is really made from Buffalo Milk!

Well, okay, but where do they get the itty-bitty flying buffalo they use to make buffalo wings?

38 posted on 01/18/2010 8:12:09 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: philetus

You got that from Jerry Clower.


39 posted on 01/18/2010 8:17:18 PM PST by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: Armed Civilian

Knock him out John, knock him out.
Y’all just shoot up here amongst us.


40 posted on 01/18/2010 8:23:44 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bttt


41 posted on 01/18/2010 8:45:03 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL! That guy must be on PETA’s 10 Most Wanted list.


42 posted on 01/18/2010 8:53:00 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY (Live Free Or Die)
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To: Kenny Bunk; SunkenCiv

I ain’t milkin’ that thing!


43 posted on 01/18/2010 10:14:36 PM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Maybe they used these giants to move all those stones to construct the monuments in England (Stonehedge, etc.).
44 posted on 01/18/2010 10:24:37 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Mercat
The boars were developed from regular pigs and in fact the piglets still look like the barnyard varieties but the parents were scary.

Why would they do that? Wild Boars aren't extinct.

45 posted on 01/18/2010 10:43:39 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: Campion
....but where do they get the itty-bitty flying buffalo they use to make buffalo wings?

After 60 straight days of Lake Effect Snow in Buffalo, even moderate drinkers looking through the saloon window can see the tiny creatures stampeding in the swirling flakes. (Personal obsvtn)

46 posted on 01/19/2010 6:18:10 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio.)
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To: PA Engineer

Doctor said to I was not to eat meat from a 3 legged cow.


47 posted on 01/19/2010 9:02:38 AM PST by listenhillary (FU Cass Sunstein - You are the embodiment of evil)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Tusk, tusk.


48 posted on 01/19/2010 5:57:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: FrogMom

You’d need a big pail, and pails hadn’t been invented yet.

Probably kilt ‘em, then milked ‘em layin’ down (and dead). And probably invented cheese early on — the supposed special tolerance for milk products is found in European family lines. :’o


49 posted on 01/19/2010 5:58:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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50 posted on 01/19/2010 6:02:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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