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Secret of Delphi Found in Ancient Text
Alun Salt 'blog ^ | 28th of February, 2006 | Alun Salt

Posted on 07/25/2010 5:49:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Researchers at the University of Leicester have unravelled a 2,700 year old mystery concerning The Oracle of Delphi -- by consulting an ancient farmer's manual. The researchers from the School of Archaeology and Ancient History sought to explain how people from across Greece came to consult with the Oracle... on a particular day of the year even though there was no common calendar... celestial signs observed by farmers could also have determined the rituals associated with Apollo Delphinios. Postgraduate student Alun Salt said: ..."I was playing around with a planisphere while suffering from insomnia. This is when I noticed that the constellation Delphinus would have been rising in the eastern sky in late December and early January. This is the same time that some cities were sacrificing to Apollo Delphinios. I wondered if ritual events could use the same system described by Hesiod. The problem was that January wasn't the time Apollo Delphinios was questioned at Delphi. Delphi was a month late compared to other cities. I knew the cliffs at Delphi would delay the rising of Delphinus there, but I didn't know by how much... The event still happens, about a month later these days because of the way the Earth's movement in the heavens has changed since ancient times. The big problem is light pollution. The stars of Delphinus are quite faint. You won't see them from Athens, and I don't know if the sky around Delphi is dark enough to make them out. It's a challenge for anyone at Delphi around the start of February."

(Excerpt) Read more at alunsalt.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: apollodelphinios; archaeoastronomy; artificialintel; bicameralmind; consciousness; delphi; delphinus; evetheory; godsgravesglyphs; greece; hesiod; julianjaynes; megaliths; oracleatdelphi; oracleofdelphi; schizophrenia
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To: PGalt

Dave Stotts is FUNNY too!


21 posted on 07/25/2010 6:58:48 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: SunkenCiv
Efrosyni Boutsikas, a fellow postgraduate at Leicester, had surveyed Delphi as part of her PhD and had the figures. She said: “The temple of Apollo at Delphi is overlooked by huge cliffs to the east. These block out the view of the lower part of the eastern sky. The horizon is so high the stars have to climb a long way before they are visible just before sunrise.

“This means that if you’re holding an early morning ritual like preparing to consult Apollo, and you want to see a constellation, you have to wait around a month after other cities with flat horizons.”

Which just goes to show that --
The Oracle at Delphi shall posterity confound.

22 posted on 07/25/2010 7:02:26 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Darn, lost my tagline... something about boarders, in-laws and bad language.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

What the researcher is saying is, that people who were nowhere near Delphi could use this method. :’) But thanks, it’s good to hear from someone who’s been there.


23 posted on 07/25/2010 7:02:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

The starting point for understanding oracles and prophecy is still Julian Jaynes’ “Origin of Consciousness”.


24 posted on 07/25/2010 7:04:09 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Tainan

Probably something to do with sandwiches, or soup, or maybe just cold cuts.


25 posted on 07/25/2010 7:04:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: PGalt

My pleasure. On Saturday I saw a car or maybe a small SUV with a personalized plate, something about Galt.


26 posted on 07/25/2010 7:05:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

I always said that if I ever got married again, it would be to someone who knew the constellations.


27 posted on 07/25/2010 8:25:49 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Silentgypsy

Croseus was told there would be great victory.


28 posted on 07/26/2010 4:24:39 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: wendy1946
The starting point for understanding oracles and prophecy is still Julian Jaynes’ “Origin of Consciousness”.

In the breakdown of the bicameral mind ?

29 posted on 07/26/2010 8:52:50 AM PDT by Timocrat
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To: SunkenCiv

According to legend Alexander visited the Oracle before undertaking his great conquests. She refused a direct answer. Supposedly, he grabbed the Pythia by the hair and dragged her from her chamber. When she screamed, "let go of me; you're unbeatable," he let go and said, "now I have my answer."

We report, you decide.

30 posted on 07/26/2010 3:17:27 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Timocrat

Right, nobody normally remembers the whole title of that one.


31 posted on 07/26/2010 4:25:34 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
He's a bit too much of a reductionist for my taste, but I agree, it is a good starting point. Yow, Amazon has a lousy graphic for this one.

The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind The Origin of Consciousness
in the Breakdown
of the Bicameral Mind

by Julian Jaynes

Hardcover
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Unknown Binding


32 posted on 07/26/2010 8:22:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: colorado tanker

Pretty sure he wasn’t going to ravish her. :’)


33 posted on 07/26/2010 8:23:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: marsh2

I can’t say that I know them, but we have been introduced. ;’)


34 posted on 07/26/2010 8:24:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

I agree there’s a problem in thinking the whole thing was always ‘auditory hallucinations’ but Jaynes at least gives us some idea of what prophecy meant and how it worked. There WAS a time when it actually worked but it stopped working before Alexander and has never worked again since then. Same thing with the Greek oracles.


35 posted on 07/27/2010 3:59:52 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
.... nobody normally

Are you implying I'm not normal. :)

36 posted on 07/27/2010 7:29:22 AM PDT by Timocrat
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37 posted on 01/04/2019 2:47:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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(time index set to the Delphi segment)
Mysteries of the Ancient World - Myths and Legends (at 43:15)
March 13, 2016 | Questar Entertainment
Mysteries of the Ancient World - Myths and Legends (at 43:15) | March 13, 2016 | Questar Entertainment

38 posted on 03/08/2022 8:39:30 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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