Archaeologist Robert Cargill examines a full-scale facsimile of the 2000-year-old-plus Isaiah Scroll at Jerusalem's Shrine of the Book. Photo by CTVC Ltd
Posted on 11/30/2010 8:59:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv
...Using sophisticated computer programs, Cargill built what he described as "a fully reconstructed, three-dimensional, real time, interactive model of Khirbet Qumran."
Taking the building's excavated remains as a blueprint, the model "visualized" that the structure was originally designed as a fortress, then abandoned, and later expanded and repurposed by a group... According to the model, the new inhabitants built an elaborate water system, as well as a scriptorium, where the scrolls were written. The building was destroyed in 70 C.E., or shortly thereafter, by the conquering Roman legions, a view now widely accepted...
In early 2007, Cargill was nearing completion of a virtual reality film on Qumran as his doctoral dissertation and as part of an upcoming Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit at the San Diego Natural History Museum.
Then something strange happened. Cargill and the San Diego museum began noticing a rash of posts on Internet blogs and message boards, under different names, all attacking the exhibit and Cargill's film for "misleading the public" by omitting Golb's alternate theory.
Over the next two years, the posts escalated in volume and harshness. "At UCLA, all my departmental faculty, the provost and chancellor started getting e-mails, as did potential employers at other universities, attacking my qualifications to receive a Ph.D.," Cargill said in a phone interview.
What all the posts had in common was a defense of Golb's thesis against the deliberate "errors" of those who argued otherwise.
...investigators found their man in Raphael Haim Golb, a 50-year-old Manhattan lawyer with a Harvard doctorate in comparative literature -- and the son of Norman Golb.
The younger Golb was arrested in March 2009 on charges of engaging "in a systematic scheme on the Internet ... in order to influence and affect debate on the Dead Sea Scrolls."
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Archaeologist Robert Cargill examines a full-scale facsimile of the 2000-year-old-plus Isaiah Scroll at Jerusalem's Shrine of the Book. Photo by CTVC Ltd
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Find a graveyard, assume it's filled with Essenes, use that to prove the Essenes had a community, have lunch.Radiocarbon Dating of Dead Sea Scrolls Confirm Paleographic DatesCarbon-14 dating of milligram samples taken from ragged edges of manuscript margins determined the ages of the scrolls to range from the third century B.C.E. (Before Common Era) to 68 C.E., nearly 2,000 years ago. These dates support earlier paleographic research, which estimated the ages of the scrolls by analyzing the handwriting styles, materials, and formatting of the manuscripts.
by Donna KentUA confirms Dead Sea Scrolls predate Christianity"A commentary on the first two chapters of the biblical Book of Habakkuk was one of the 18 texts dated at the UA lab. 'The fact that this particular scroll (the Habakkuk commentary) dates to before the Christian era tends to eliminate the possibility that a follower of Christ could have written it,' Jull said yesterday. There is a 95 percent probability that the parchment from the Habakkuk commentary dates to between 150 B.C. and 5 B.C., Jull said. 'Some of the papyrus samples bear exact written dates within the text itself. These dates match those determined by the carbon-14 measurements,' the Israel Antiquities Authority stated in a news release. 'The reliability of paleography as a dating method is thus confirmed.'"
by Jim EricksonNewly Discovered Tunnel May Once Have Carried Dead Sea ScrollsReports have described the discovery, by a team led by Ronny Reich and Eli Shukron, of an "escape hatch" or "drainage tunnel" under the main street of ancient Jerusalem... two weeks earlier, archaeologists discovered the tunnel while searching for the city's main road. Shukron is quoted as saying that workmen engaged in the search "happened upon a small drainage channel that led to the discovery of the massive tunnel." The same report states that "the walls of the tunnel ... reach a height of 10 feet in some places," and a photograph of the site would appear to confirm that... According to the large group of stories based on the AP report, "Archaeologists think the tunnel leads to the Kidron River, which empties into the Dead Sea." The Nahal (or Wadi) Qidron does indeed lead eastward to the sea, but about halfway toward that body of water it bifurcates, the one main branch, under the same name, continuing east-southeast to the sea -- while the other bends slightly northward and, bearing the name of Nahal (or Wadi) Qumran, leads to Khirbet Qumran and was the main source feeding the large water-reservoirs that distinguish this site. The report of the Israel Antiquities Authority, focusing on the items found in the tunnel, states: "pottery shards ... and coins from the end of the Second Temple period, prior to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in ... 70 C.E., were discovered in the channel."
by Norman Golb
Wednesday October 24, 2007The Qumran QuandaryArchaeological digs at Qumran and surrounding settlements have revealed not an isolated, penurious community, but in some respects a rather flourishing one, which in the Second Temple period contained installations for blacksmithing and tanning and what seems to be an immense pottery factory. The residents there traded with other settlements, kept a stable, grew crops and raised sheep. Based on theories that the residents lived a communal lifestyle, some have termed it "the first kibbutz," complete with agriculture, light industry, a communal dining room and a common treasury - a cache of hundreds of silver coins was found on the site.
by Ziv Hellman
Jerusalem Report
Issue 8, August 4, 2008The Enigma of QumranThe participants in this discussion, all field archaeologists, are Joseph (Yossi) Patrich, associate professor of archaeology at the University of Haifa; Hanan Eshel, senior lecturer in archaeology at Hebrew University and Bar-Ilan University; Yizhar Hirschfeld, lecturer of classical archaeology at Hebrew University; and Jodi Magness, associate professor of classical and Near Eastern archaeology at Tufts University. BAR editor Hershel Shanks moderates the discussion, which was held in Jerusalem last summer.
[debate transcript, 1998]
and here's something kinda nutty:Ancient Graves Found at QumranGrave robbers, who presumably saw the archaeologists looking around the area last year, had already plundered the site by the time the formal dig began. Richard Freund of the University of Hartford said the latest discovery challenges previous assumptions about the community and its cemetery of 1,178 graves. The dig's co-director, Israeli archaeologist Magen Broshi, was cautious in characterizing the coffin's occupant. "The only thing we can be certain of is that he was a very affluent man," he said.
by Steve Weizman
Scribal Marks in the Dead Sea ScrollsRecent discussion on Orion interested me in the issue of Chinese characters in the Dead Sea Scrolls. My attention focused particularly on the two symbols that were first associated with Chinese: the symbol in the bottom right margin of 1QS column 7 and the symbol in the right margin of 1QS column 9, line 3. In 1990, Victor Mair cautiously compared and contrasted these two symbols with the Chinese character "ti"... Looking at John Trever's published photographs of 1QS, my impression was that these two symbols were elaborated paragraphos marks (perhaps even coronis marks), used to separate sense units. The use of the paragraphos and coronis in Greek manuscripts is introduced in Turner (1971).
by Jay C. Treat
If you don;t mind me asking, what is the take away from all this?
It is interesting but I can’t figure out what is at issue here...
I don't get how someone could be arrested for that.
I guess you can make it 1001 comments about BCE or CE as they are both stupid and hateful. They are stupid because they have no meaning at all. Common era? what in the world does that mean?
Hateful because the only possible reason to use it is so you will not use Christ.
Actually I would feel the same way if the original method had been before the fall of Athens in the Peloponnesian War. Changing the phrase while using the same dates is just stupid.
It's a battle of the opinion of scholars and the pride of 'being right' about the source of authorship; the Essenes only, or a collection of pious sects from all over Jereusalem. It has very little application or interest to anyone but ancient documents scholars, as far as I can see.
Move along! Nothing to see here!
This is an odd posting.
But, then again, I was expecting an “assault” by the Muslim “politically corrupt” on the history of Israel - by people claiming a “Islamic” origin to a building/scrolls/caves that were made 700 years before Mohammad was born.
Funny thing is, the ARTICLE uses it, that’s why remarks — particularly your stupid and hateful remarks directed right at me — are pointless. Since you know that CE stands for Common Era, don’t bother to pretend you don’t know what that means.
It’s a cyberstalking case, but the perp also wound up stealing someone’s identity, and apparently got nailed for that. And didn’t it say he was an attorney? Wow.
Wait — you’re saying that wouldn’t make sense?!? ;’)
Of course I know what “common era” stands for, what is strange is the words common era are meaningless as a replacement for AD.
Just what does common era mean? Is this the most common era? was the time of the Trojan war the most common era? The phrase is simply meaningless and was chosen for no logical reason.
>>Of course I know what “common era” stands for, what is strange is the words common era are meaningless as a replacement for AD.<<
If it was good enough for Asimov and Heinlein then it is good enough for me!
Evidentally, he was trying to harm Cargill and prevent him from being awarded his PhD through a systematic campaign of slander and harassment. Lawyers, however, almost never put things in clear terms that ordinary people might understand.
Nice screen shot! Darn shame I missed that broadcast. ;-)
Last I checked, that BCE designation was in use well before my grandfather was born...and he was around early enough to walk to the Yukon during the Klondike Gold Rush.
It has nothing, nada, zipppo, zilch to do with P.C.; but, like “the Communist metric system”, reality has no bearing on the unwashed, unlearned, Illiterati’s entrenched opinions based upon history beginning with their (or at best, their parents’) birth.
The CE and BCE designations are being used for no other reason than to eliminate references to Christ in our culture. These absurd designations were not in common use until relatively recently, but if someone was using them 100 years ago - and I am sure if that is the case that the examples are few and far between - the motivation was the same. And, yes, it is the Gramscians and their postmodern friends who have been pushing this among publishers.
Twist it back on the libs, and say CE="Christ Era", and BCE="Before Christ Era"
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