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Native Americans actually came from a tiny mountain region in Siberia, DNA research reveals
Daily Mail ^ | 26 Jan 2012 | Rob Waugh

Posted on 01/27/2012 8:32:48 AM PST by Theoria

Altai in southern Siberia sits right at the centre of Russia. But the tiny, mountainous republic has a claim to fame unknown until now - Native Americans can trace their origins to the remote region.

DNA research revealed that genetic markers linking people living in the Russian republic of Altai, southern Siberia, with indigenous populations in North America.

A study of the mutations indicated a lineage shift between 13,000 and 14,000 years ago - when people are thought to have walked across the ice from Russia to America.

This roughly coincides with the period when humans from Siberia are thought to have crossed what is now the Bering strait and entered America.

'Altai is a key area because it's a place where people have been coming and going for thousands and thousands of years,' said Dr Theodore Schurr, from the University of Pennsylvania in the US.

Among the people who may have emerged from the Altai region are the predecessors of the first Native Americans.

Roughly 20-25,000 years ago, these prehistoric humans carried their Asian genetic lineages up into the far reaches of Siberia and eventually across the then-exposed Bering land mass into the Americas.

'Our goal in working in this area was to better define what those founding lineages or sister lineages are to Native American populations,' Schurr said.

The region lies at the intersection of what is now Russia, Mongolia, China and Kazakhstan.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: altai; china; clovis; dna; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; kazakhstan; mongolia; nativeamericans; parsimoniousness; russia; siberia; yakut
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To: Theoria

“Human populations are tightly interwoven”

How does the Toba bottleneck connect with this?


41 posted on 01/28/2012 3:30:49 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Theoria
Vintage Skulls


42 posted on 01/28/2012 4:10:16 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
There's recent talk about these fellows (Strangers In A New Land) migrating into Africa and becoming Modern Humans.

Modern Humans may have their origins in Central Asia.

43 posted on 01/28/2012 4:15:05 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
Native American of European ancestry:


44 posted on 01/28/2012 4:42:57 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Theoria

Very cool.


45 posted on 01/28/2012 6:14:54 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: SunkenCiv

Some are more tightly interwoven than others.

http://blog.capertravelindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Orchha-Khajuraho185kms-5hrs.jpg


46 posted on 01/28/2012 6:22:29 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Texan5

When I studied anthropology and archaeology 20 years ago, we were taught that there were three basic human bone structures and that they were Caucasian, Asian, and African. We were told that the human specimens found might not be perfect examples of one or the other but they could all fall under the three categories.

And if we aren’t too politically correct, visually, most people do too, with definite mixing all around.

I think there may be some truth to the people here previous to the european last wave (a lot of us) having an Asian bone structure and looks. The Indian / native American often has straight black hair, mid brown skin, almond eyes.

If Asians traveled here and took over a previously European people, it would explain the differences between the looks of native Americans and today’s Asians.

I find it all so fascinating.


47 posted on 01/28/2012 6:36:56 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

One of my cousins is married to an archaeologist who is a paleo-indian expert. He worked at Museo Archaeologico de Mexico for many years before taking a job stateside at a university.

He supervised a lot of neat digs at sites in Mexico, and always invited us to visit them-since my family is Hispanic, I found it particularly fascinating, and have ever since.

He was talking about the politically incorrect theory of well-traveled far ancestors who sailed, traded and mated all over the world long before any land bridges or empires came to be. Many of his collegues thought he was nuts-he is laughing his ass off now every time he is vindicated.


48 posted on 01/28/2012 8:21:01 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

They are not Russians. Russians are Slavs. These people are another ethnic group whose territory was seized under the Czars.


49 posted on 01/28/2012 8:45:04 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Thanks for adding some common sense to the discussion! People can get over zealous when they think they know something.


50 posted on 01/28/2012 9:02:53 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: redhead
...not to mention their ability to walk across the ice in the winter.

That's funny!

51 posted on 01/28/2012 9:05:05 PM PST by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Theoria

I once knew an Indian who spoke Russian. How did you learn Russian, I asked? From my father, he said. And he? From his father. Now it all starts making sense.


52 posted on 01/28/2012 9:06:56 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: zot

Ping.


53 posted on 01/28/2012 9:11:44 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Theoria

Were Altoids the traditional mint of the Altaics?


54 posted on 01/28/2012 11:38:26 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Stole? Nobody ever stole land before land rights were established. You either held it by force or let it go and move or die in the face of greater force. All the liberal handwringing about displacing ‘native peoples’ is nonsense as said natives weren’t really native, but trespassers themselves who’d driven out the previous trespassers.


55 posted on 01/29/2012 5:17:05 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Godebert

Fascinating that they’re frozen in time technologically. That photo, if the tech existed, could have been taken centuries earlier. I wonder if some cultures are simply dead ends.


56 posted on 01/29/2012 5:22:02 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Theoria

That is one long dang walk.


57 posted on 01/29/2012 5:22:45 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Your monomania is refreshing in contrast to people who can’t seem to think about anything else.


58 posted on 01/29/2012 5:25:21 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Theoria

We're slipping people post 58?

59 posted on 01/29/2012 5:26:48 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Outstanding post. Won’t our white guilt ever be assauged?

Can you see us setting up additional “native” casinos as DNA evidence points to additionl genotypes having been here before?


60 posted on 01/29/2012 5:27:19 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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