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13th century volcano mystery eruption may be solved (Little Ice Age cause?)
watts Up With That? ^ | June 15, 2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 06/15/2012 1:49:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A photo of the Rinjani caldera in Indonesia, while Lavigne won’t name the volcano until his paper is published, insiders suggest this a likely candidate for the missing 1258 AD eruption. Image: Wikipedia

From ScienceNews: Indonesia implicated as location of biggest eruption in last seven millennia

By Alexandra Witze

SELFOSS, Iceland — One of the biggest mysteries in volcanology may finally have a solution. An eruption long thought to have gone off in the year 1258, spreading cooling sulfur particles around the globe, happened the year before in Indonesia, scientists report.

Until now, researchers have known a big volcano went off somewhere in the world around that time, but they didn’t know exactly where or when.

The new report still remains something of a mystery. Franck Lavigne, a geoscientist at Panthéon-Sorbonne University’s Laboratory of Physical Geography in Meudon, France, showed data and close-up photographs of the remains of the perpetrator volcano on June 14 at an American Geophysical Union conference on volcanism and the atmosphere. But he declined to name the specific volcano, saying he had agreed with his international colleagues not to identify it until the work is published in a peer-reviewed journal.

“We have new and solid evidence for the biggest volcanic eruption in 7,000 years,” Lavigne said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; litteliceage; littleiceage; volcanoes

1 posted on 06/15/2012 1:49:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; bd476; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; ...
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John F. Hultquist says:

June 15, 2012 at 6:31 am

Nice chart here:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/the-mysterious-missing-eruption-of-1258-a-d/

2 posted on 06/15/2012 1:52:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: bd476

The volcano eruption at El Chichón, Mexico: *( linked above.) gets discussed in the Wired article


3 posted on 06/15/2012 1:56:58 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Also at Wired:

Volcanoes and the Little Ice Age: Not the Smoking Gun?

By Erik Klemetti Email Author January 31, 2012

4 posted on 06/15/2012 2:14:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“We have new and solid evidence for the biggest volcanic eruption in 7,000 years,”

Bigger than Tambora and Krakatoa?

5 posted on 06/15/2012 2:23:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

According to the Wired article....see link at #2...8 times larger sulfur emission than Krakatoa...twice that of Tambora.


6 posted on 06/15/2012 2:37:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: DuncanWaring

.....or Santorini?..........


7 posted on 06/15/2012 2:51:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: DuncanWaring; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here are the dates that the tree rings world wide recorded 'world affecting events.' (Professor Mike Baillie)

* 540AD (Dark Ages)

* 44BC (Death Of Caeser)

* 207BC (Start Of Han Dynasty)

* 1159BC (End Shang Dynasty - David Plague)

* 1628BC Stonehenge Abandoned - Exodus Of Moses)

* 2354BC (Bronze Age Starts - Flood Of Noah, Ussher date)

* 3195BC (Stoneheng Built - Start Of Egyptian Civilization)

8 posted on 06/15/2012 2:53:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: Red Badger; DuncanWaring
Santorini Eruption Much larger Than Originally Believed
9 posted on 06/15/2012 2:58:21 PM PDT by blam
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Thanks Ernest.



10 posted on 06/15/2012 3:03:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Ernest. Will read this later, pinging it now. :')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


11 posted on 06/15/2012 3:03:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very interesting.


12 posted on 06/15/2012 3:06:10 PM PDT by Misterioso (It is futile to fight against, if one does not know what one is fighting for. - Ayn Rand)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SeraphimApprentice; zot

The EPA needs to ban volcanoes from emitting sulfur and also from erupting. They should start a law suit against Mother Earth ordering her to stop these pollutions.


13 posted on 06/15/2012 3:47:24 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: blam

1258 AD- Hulegu Quan destroys Baghdad, ends Abbasid Caliphate.

Not all events that occur in tandem with a volcanic eruption are bad.


14 posted on 06/15/2012 3:49:21 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The "unnamed" volcano seems to be Mount Rinjani.
15 posted on 06/15/2012 3:54:03 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Interesting. Perhaps their analysis shall be born out to be true.


16 posted on 06/15/2012 3:57:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
John F. Hultquist says:
June 15, 2012 at 6:31 am

Nice chart here:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/the-mysterious-missing-eruption-of-1258-a-d/

Not so nice in my opinion. Note the familiar "hockey stick" rise at the end. Look who produced it: "The global temperature anomalies from 1200-2000 A.D., showing the dips associated with volcanic events, including the missing 1258 eruption. Part of Figure 2 from Mann et al. (2012)"

Anything to attempt to show tree rings are the key to determining cooler temperatures before the present day.

Mann, M.E., Fuentes, J.D. and Rutherford, S., 2012, Underestimation of volcanic cooling in tree-ring-based reconstructions of hemispheric temperatures. Nature Geoscience, doi:10.1038/ngeo1394.

17 posted on 06/15/2012 4:55:26 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: GreyFriar

This can’t happen again. POTUS banned it by Executive Order.


18 posted on 06/15/2012 6:09:28 PM PDT by zot
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you for the Ping, Ernest!


19 posted on 06/15/2012 9:33:05 PM PDT by bd476
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