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What is with conservative talking heads caving in on the Second Amendment? Vanity
12/18/12 | Keith Brown

Posted on 12/18/2012 5:56:48 AM PST by Keith Brown

So yesterday I heard Michael Medved on the radio (noon pacific time) and he was beating up on "assault" weapons and gun makers who were only selling to make a "profit..."

He was literally going down the liberal anti gun line... then when a few callers took him to task on it he talked over them and hung up.

Then there was O' Reilly on Fox who started off with a good talking point, but then started whipping on the stuttering 2nd Amend foundation guy (Gottleib? .... not a good showing for him).

Neither so called conservative host voiced the affirmative uses of guns in contemporary times.

Its terrible to see the so called conservative voices folding under pressure...but to see them turn on a core values such as gun ownership does not bode well.

I hope others see more positive representations out there but I am not seeing it.

It seems we need to remind these folks who pays their bills.

Thoughts?


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KEYWORDS: guncontrol; secondamendment; vanity
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To: Keith Brown

Listen to Mark Levin. He is all you need.


21 posted on 12/18/2012 6:14:14 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: ClearCase_guy

Add Bill Bennett to the list. God Bless Mark Levin, but the other day I sortof cringed when he said if his items were confiscated, he would “sue”. I’m sorry Mark, but when that starts happening, effecting anything via the courts is long past a reality.


22 posted on 12/18/2012 6:15:54 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Keith Brown

There are no conservative talk radio hosts..

only republican party hacks...


23 posted on 12/18/2012 6:16:57 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: Keith Brown
Michael Meds is a closet LIBERAL - worked for the RAT Party way back in the “first worst President of our lifetime”, who has now replaced by Baraq Hussein Soetoro, our lord and savior (to quote a noted hollyweird actor).

At one time I am sure I heard him say that he had helped the Carter campaign but this morning I cannot find a reference to that little tidbit. From his wikipedia bio........

After his first year of law school, he left to work as a head speech writer for Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Joseph Duffey,[2][3] and then for four years as a speech writer and political consultant. After political campaign work, including a position as an aide to Congressman Ron Dellums, Medved worked in advertising, and coordinated a campaign to recruit more African Americans and Hispanics to the police departments of the California cities of San Francisco, Oakland and Berkeley.
24 posted on 12/18/2012 6:19:07 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: freedumb2003

remember when OReily faked his “fight” with michael moore going onto his show? Once a tabloid reader always a tabloid reader.


25 posted on 12/18/2012 6:19:33 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Keith Brown

ObaMugabe has used Newtown to unleash his cultural revolution and Red Guard to terrorize opponents. Extracting public confession to wrongful thinking was a common punishment.

That’s what we’re seeing.


26 posted on 12/18/2012 6:21:26 AM PST by y6162
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To: MachIV
Correct. I will only surrender my “assault weapon” after I have given them all my ammunition, ONE round at a time.
27 posted on 12/18/2012 6:22:19 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Keith Brown
Part of the problem we have is WE have done a VERY bad job of explaining the 2nd amendment.

I have, on my Facebook page...and granted...thats only a few hundred people...but it's my circle, begun an in-earnest education campaign about the 2nd.

Every chance I get I remind people: The 2nd is NOT for hunting. The 2nd is not for home or self protection. The 2nd exists to back up the 1st. The 1st amendment is there, not to allow you to make porn movies or so you don't have to look at the 10 Commandments posted in front of the Court House...but to voice concerns when the government goes beyond it's authority. The 2nd is there for when the government attempts to prohibit the 1st.

ALL of the Bill of Rights are aimed DIRECTLY at limiting Federal Power and empowering the individual. If we would teach this to our children, like we used to, we would be much better off.

28 posted on 12/18/2012 6:24:15 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: wideawake

the Media Mob is dragging the shoting victim leftists out to speak for gun control since the NRA has officially surrendered.


29 posted on 12/18/2012 6:24:15 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Keith Brown

The abolishment of the 2nd Amendment will bring civil war to this country.


30 posted on 12/18/2012 6:25:52 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Keith Brown

Medved is no conservative. He’s a RINO at best.


31 posted on 12/18/2012 6:26:00 AM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: Keith Brown

The irony of losing their 1st Amendment rights by relinquishing our 2nd Amendment rights is lost on the likes of Medved and O’Reilly.


32 posted on 12/18/2012 6:28:33 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Democrat_media
The media and democrats are exploiting the mass shootings to take away our individual rights and to empower government.

That is all one needs to know about the state of our nation. Too many Americans and illegal aliens are way too dumb and uncaring to even understand what is happening to their freedoms and liberty that they are giving up in order to embrace Baraq O'Clause and his RAT party's promise of goodies for the rest of their lives. ACCEPTING THESE GIFTS WILL COME WITH A VERY HIGH PRICE. Fortunately for me I am old enough to not have to live through the horrific state of affairs that are coming. I cry for my grandkids - there is no way out of this.

I was a teenager in the early '60s and worked a good part of my life for Defense contractors and consider myself a cold-war warrior. UNFORTUNATELY the commies won, but from within - not an outside attack like Red Dawn.
33 posted on 12/18/2012 6:32:53 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio; MinuteGal

Well, actually the good news for both O’Reilly and Medved, is that they at least moved more to the right in their lifetimes. They could have both stayed pure liberal. Don’t trust either of them to be anything resembling a true conservative, because they aren’t, but I’d rather have them as sometime political friends than 100 percent political enemies. You don’t always get perfection.

Just be aware that on some things both are perfectly capable of turning on us at times, because they really aren’t conservatives. My question is, how is it that some conservative people haven’t figured these two out a long time ago. It’s so obvious that they are RINO’s at best, or moderates in the pure sense of the word. Some things are self evident.


34 posted on 12/18/2012 6:33:44 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: freedumb2003

My biggest issue with O’Reilly is that he constantly interrupts people and talks over them. I consider that incredibly rude.

As a matter of fact I hate it so much I think people guilty of it should be shot by firing squad.


35 posted on 12/18/2012 6:40:04 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Keith Brown

Clearly Michael Medved does not own guns and does not understand that “assault weapon” is a thoroughly phony PR phrase that means nothing. Likewise Jim Boeheim, the Syracuse coach who won his 900th. game yesterday, made some similar statement which indicates he just doesn’t know jack about guns.

Medved does an interesting show, but he always hewes very closely to the far left edge of Conservatism.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 6:44:16 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Keith Brown

O’Reilly is NOT a conservative, he’s a statist.


37 posted on 12/18/2012 6:48:07 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: MachIV

Yep. There was a thread here yesterday about Bill Bennett advocating gund control.

Sad. Bennett is one of my political heroes.


38 posted on 12/18/2012 6:53:03 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: MachIV

Krauthammer was mewling on the same subject last night. But at least he admitted that gun control was not gonna happen in his lifetime.


39 posted on 12/18/2012 6:57:45 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Responsibility2nd

Is it possible that the famous neoconservatives are moving back towards liberalism?


40 posted on 12/18/2012 6:59:04 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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