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Archaeologists Find 15,500-Year-Old Spear Points in Texas
Sci-News.com ^ | Oct 26, 2018 | News Staff / Source

Posted on 10/28/2018 11:28:29 AM PDT by ETL

Through excavation of the Debra L. Friedkin site northwest of Austin, Texas, a team of archaeologists has identified a particular style of projectile point dated between 13,500 and 15,500 years ago — this is earlier than typical Clovis-style technologies dated to 13,000 years ago.

The team found more than 100,000 artifacts, including 328 tools and 12 complete and fragmented projectile points (about 3-4 inches, or 7.6-10.2 cm, long), excavated from the Buttermilk Creek Complex horizon of the Debra L. Friedkin site.

From 19 optically stimulated luminescence dates of sediments, they determined the artifacts were between 13,500- and 15,500- years-old.

“There is no doubt these weapons were used for hunting game in the area at that time,” said lead author Professor Michael Waters, Director of the Center for the Study of the First Americans at Texas A&M University.

“The discovery is significant because almost all pre-Clovis sites have stone tools, but spear points have yet to be found.”

“These points were found under a layer with Clovis and Folsom projectile points.”

Clovis is dated to 13,000 to 12,700 years ago and Folsom after that. The dream has always been to find diagnostic artifacts — such as projectile points — that can be recognized as older than Clovis and this is what we have at the Debra L. Friedkin site.”

The Clovis people invented the ‘Clovis point,’ a spear-shaped weapon made of stone that is found in Texas and parts of the United States and northern Mexico and the weapons were made to hunt animals, including mammoths and mastodons, from 13,000 to 12,700 years ago.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Science
KEYWORDS: archaeology; assaultspear; buttermilkcreek; clovis; folsom; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; preclovis; precolumbian; raquelwelch; texas
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To: Dusty Road

Sorry, I know next to nothing of the subject.


21 posted on 10/28/2018 12:38:19 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Apparently we are all related to Neanderthals which explains a lot.

Wonder what might have happened if the human lineage was pure?

Maybe the Neanderthals made us heartier and able to survive so that we ended up with brawn and brains.


22 posted on 10/28/2018 12:41:43 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ETL
Spears must have been the only things that could stop the dinosaurs.


23 posted on 10/28/2018 12:49:36 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: FrankR; editor-surveyor
Re: “How did those 15,000 year old toys get to 6000 year old Earth? That is the real mystery!”--editor-surveyor

Exactly! If they used “carbon dating”, that would mean the stone is “15,000 years old”, unless the people had a “use by” date stamped on the tool itself. I guess the archaeologists get their jollies over things like this, but to me, it’s meaningless.

Quote from the article:
"From 19 optically stimulated luminescence dates of sediments, they determined the artifacts were between 13,500- and 15,500- years-old."

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From Wikipedia...

Optically stimulated luminescence

In physics, optically stimulated luminescence (OSL) is a method for measuring doses from ionizing radiation. It is used in at least two applications:

luminescence dating of ancient materials: mainly geological sediments and sometimes fired pottery, bricks etc., although in the latter case thermoluminescence dating is used more often. ...”

Lots more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optically_stimulated_luminescence

24 posted on 10/28/2018 12:51:49 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
You're forgetting this is TEXAS!

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25 posted on 10/28/2018 12:55:38 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

even back then Texas was armed..


26 posted on 10/28/2018 1:17:30 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: max americana
Archaeologists Find 15,500-Year-Old Spear Points in Texas

even back then Texas was armed..

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A 15,000-year-old stemmed point at the Debra L. Friedkin site, Texas.



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27 posted on 10/28/2018 1:34:49 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: FrankR

No, it has nothing to do with the age of the stone which is probably hundreds of thousands or millions of years old. Stone does not get carbon dated. It has to do with where it’s found and the items associated with it. The Clovis example was a Clovis point embedded in the rib bone of a prehistoric bison. The Bison bone could be dated. Archaic Stone points can only be dated by the organic things they are found in association with.


28 posted on 10/28/2018 1:37:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ETL; FrankR

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IOW, psuedoscience fiction!


29 posted on 10/28/2018 2:18:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DesertRhino

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The age of the stone is 6020 years, more or less.
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30 posted on 10/28/2018 2:19:17 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: LiveFree

“God blessed Texas with His own hand,” as the song says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw


31 posted on 10/28/2018 2:37:07 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Kindness and truth shall meet." Ps. 85:10)
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To: ETL

Foxy Haunches must have dropped that spear on the way to taking her DNA test in Peru lo those sooo many years ago


32 posted on 10/28/2018 2:40:12 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Thanks fieldmarshaldj.

33 posted on 10/28/2018 5:50:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Team finds oldest weapons ever discovered in North America
by Keith Randall, Texas A&M University
October 24, 2018
https://phys.org/news/2018-10-team-oldest-weapons-north-america.html


34 posted on 04/21/2024 7:55:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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