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DEAR PRESIDENT BUSH (FROM A POOR MAN WHO WANTS IRAQIS TO QUIT KILLING OUR SOLDIERS)
23 November 2003
Posted on 11/23/2003 6:00:20 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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Please...somebody show this to the President. Please.
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You do realize that this is exactly the way the Nazis reacted to resistance activity in occupied Europe?
And that a number of German officers were executed for it after the war?
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:04:51 PM PST
by
Restorer
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The killing of innocents is not and can not ever be justified for any reason.
Bad thinking.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:07:12 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Ahhh...there's a reason that Bush is president and thank God he is.
He won't be doing this.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:07:40 PM PST
by
Columbine
"Give me your hearts and minds or I'll burn down your house," kind of thing, eh?
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:08:08 PM PST
by
Tennessee_Bob
(LORD, WHAT CAN THE HARVEST HOPE FOR, IF NOT FOR THE CARE OF THE REAPER MAN?)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You are insane.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:09:11 PM PST
by
DefCon
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Why did you post this trash?
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:09:59 PM PST
by
Consort
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"1. Give notice that if ANY U.S. citizen is attacked in Iraq or in any combatant zone, then an adjacent neighborhood will be annihilated within two (2) hours if the perpetrators are not turned over to U.S. authorities."
The Baathists and the teerisits do not care about the Iraqi people - they have been mudering and torturing Iraqis for decades - and thus would not be discouraged by this plan. In fact, they would be delighted with this response, because they want a general state of war between the US and the Iraqi people - as against the present situation, where the US enjoys the support of the Iraqi people.
Somehow, I imagine President Bush is getting better advice than this.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:10:48 PM PST
by
BCrago66
To: DefCon
You are polite.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:10:52 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
1. Give notice that if ANY U.S. citizen is attacked in Iraq or in any combatant zone, then an adjacent neighborhood will be annihilated within two (2) hours if the perpetrators are not turned over to U.S. authorities. 2. If a suspect is not delivered in the allotted time, wipe out the neighborhood
everyone man, woman, child and animal living there.
3. If another attack occurs, then annihilate TWO adjacent neighborhoods. And so on
There are approximately 23 million Iraqis. Roughly 16 million of them want us there. Another 6.9 million are uncertain/don't know/don't care. The remaining 100 thousand are either enemies or are leaning that way.
The plan you have just described insures that, instead of 100 thousand enemies, we would have 23 million.
What purpose would be served by that?
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:12:33 PM PST
by
okie01
(www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This was a method used by the Nazis during World War II.
Its most notable effect was to recruit new members of resistance groups, because you suddenly had a bunch of people who wanted to get even with the Germans.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:13:16 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Have you really been posting stuff like this since 1998?
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:14:52 PM PST
by
BCrago66
To: okie01
The plan you have just described insures that, instead of 100 thousand enemies, we would have 23 million. What purpose would be served by that?
An interesting question. What purpose--or, more specifically, whose purpose--would be served by this?
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:15:24 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Bobibutu
All of you are entitled to your opinions, but you do not understand Islam or the culture we are dealing with. I am not going to get into a long debate this evening, but absolutely stand on the proposal and am willing to take the heat for it. We are either going to have to enforce a horrible solution to the killing of our soldiers or pull them all out. No middle ground remains. They are killing 2-3 of our people EVERY day and morale will collapse in a very short period of time.
It is time to do something rather unpleasant, but such is the nature of war. We had to do the same thing in Japan in World War II. Are you going to condemn Truman? Almost every man, woman, child and animal perished in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It ended the war because they knew we meant business. No, I am not insane. Rather, I am a very determined individual. General Patton accurately stated,
"The purpose of war is not to die for your country. The purpose of war is to make the other poor bastard die for his."
Not a pretty philosophy...but the Axis were extremely afraid of Patton. They knew he meant business. If we are going to go to war, we need to put generals in charge who can win the fight and back them up. Or, we need to surrender or bring our troops home. Trying to apply liberal philosophy to war will eventually cause drastic losses.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:15:52 PM PST
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You are, most certainly, insane.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:19:10 PM PST
by
DefCon
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
""The purpose of war is not to die for your country. The purpose of war is to make the other poor bastard die for his.""
He was talking about ENEMY COMBATANTS not CIVILIAN Innocents.
Your thinking is way distorted.
And I have lived in Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore and can relate with some authority as to Muslims and Islam.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:19:32 PM PST
by
Bobibutu
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
1. Give notice that if ANY U.S. citizen is attacked in Iraq or in any combatant zone, then an adjacent neighborhood will be annihilated within two (2) hours if the perpetrators are not turned over to U.S. authorities. 2. If a suspect is not delivered in the allotted time, wipe out the neighborhood
everyone man, woman, child and animal living there.
3. If another attack occurs, then annihilate TWO adjacent neighborhoods. And so on
This kind of war of attrition is precisely what the Nazis tried in the nations they invaded and occupied. If you'll read a little history, you'll appreciate that it didn't work and only strengthened the resolve of those who opposed them.
I don't like the loss of American life (civilian or military) any more than you do. All the same, the moment we resort to those heavy-handed tactics, we will cease to be a liberator and will instead be on the same moral level as the monsters we toppled in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Reconsider your position. It is indefensible.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:20:17 PM PST
by
Prime Choice
(Conservative: One who doesn't believe that turning the U.S. into a third-world nation is 'progress'.)
To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
They are killing 2-3 of our people every day, and this compares to the Viet Nam War, when 50-60 were killed daily.
Or we can talk about the deaths during WWII, when we had HUNDREDS killed every day.
How old are you? Why are you posting such defeatist and Nazi-like trash? Do you not understand that your solution would guarantee the loss of Iraq? Do you not understand that your solution is ethically repugnant?
Get a grip. Toughen up. Pray for the troops and stand by the military, which is doing a great job under trying circumstances.
To: DefCon
You are insane.Maybe so. We might have to fight MORE than 23 million Muslims. But the way it is going, we are going to have fight them anyway. Watch and see what happens when other Muslims perceive us to be without the will to fight and do what is necessary to stop the killing. It is only going to get worse. When U.S. soldiers can be wantonly killed and then dragged from their vehicle and mutilated...the killing will only increase. Watch and see.
I believe in taking action, not waiting for others to decide what action needs to be taken. Criticize all you want to...I don't care anymore. I have the nerve to post what I posted and I stand by it. So, if Jim bans me...so be it. If not, so be it.
I don't normally post this kind of opinion and don't normally hold it. However, something is going to have to be done or we are going to see worldwide killings of U.S. citizens by radical Muslims. Watch and see.
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:22:37 PM PST
by
MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
(Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
To: DefCon
You are insane.Mene is not insane. A little frustrated, a tad weird, but not insane.
5.56mm
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posted on
11/23/2003 6:22:41 PM PST
by
M Kehoe
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