Talking Points for Freepers Re: Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - www.SwiftVets.com

Free Republic.com ^ | August 11, 2004 | The Shrew

[The Shrew]

We know that the Dems are planning to continue to politically attack the president. They are using their 527's to spend in excess of $400 million dollars to attack the President. They are also vigorously attacking the SwiftVets using Legal Terrorism

This is the Big Time, Freepers. This is the time when WE must step up and support. This is not yet the march in the streets we did in Florida and outside of Dick Cheney's house in 2000. This is a battle where the mainstream media are taking their marching orders directly from the DNC. They are going to crush this story; they are attacking the SwiftVets and their supporters.

Death threats, intimidation, email viruses and Denial-of-Service attacks against the Vets and their site are just the tip of the iceberg. It is going to get worse. Remember the Clinton Slime Machine? Therrrrrrre back!

Here is a summary of the attacks from James Hirsen ofThe Left Coast Reports

1. New Attack on Swift Boat Veterans

Top dog Democrats such as DNC ringleader Terry McAuliffe and Sen. Tom Harkin have publicly embraced Michael Moore's factually challenged waste of celluloid.

John Kerry recently used Moore-generated scenes to smear the president.

But curiously, when more than 200 decorated veterans created a one-minute TV spot expressing their views on the Dem candidate's war record, McAuliffe, DNC and buds squealed for the White House to declare war on these "partisan liars."

Sources indicate that a character assassination campaign is planned against Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, timed for the release of the book "Unfit for Command."

A preliminary counterattack has already begun. It is taking the form of an e-mail campaign titled "Swift Boat Vets are Dishonest, Dishonorable, Unpatriotic Liars," and comes from a group that calls itself the "Patriotic Veterans for Truth."

David Brock's Web site asks, "Who is Jerome Corsi, co-author of Swift Boat Vets attack book?" as it slimes Corsi with cherry-picked quotes that are taken out of context.

The Left Coast Report says, once again, the libs' slogan appears to be, 'Don't let the facts get in the way of attacks.'

Here is a thread focusing on Talking Points. I like Bob J's effort and want to link it to reemphasize that this Freeper Effort is about what we say and write to the media - not what the SwiftVets say and write to the media. Theirs is First Hand experience. They talk with a different legal level of authority than we - or Lanny Davis - speaks. Our mission here is to develop Freeper Answers for Letters to the Editor and talking points for Radio Talk Shows and other call in shows.

If you do nothing else, write or say "I support the Swift Boat Veterans. They have paid for their right to speak out on their experience in Vietnam with their service and their blood. They have every much a right to speak about their experience in Vietnam and with John Kerry as Senator Kerry does."

It is important to not overstate your case. I urge every Freeper to read the websites SwiftVets.com and WinterSoldier.com It is vitally important that we KNOW and understand the facts of this case. If you don't know - don't pretend that you know. Just state: "I support the Swift Boat Vets at SwiftVets.com" That is much better than stating something that is false or not current and then having your incorrect fact detract from your support.

What is all the fuss about? John O'Neill and Dr. Jerome Corsi have written a book titled: "Unfit for Command". Unfit for Command

This book details John Kerry's contemporaries in Vietnam and their experiences that relate to Kerry and his four and a half month service in Vietnam. It is a well researched personal testimony.

Consider these talking points:

1. The Swift Boat Veteran's have earned the right to tell their story.

2. John Kerry featured these same veteran's in his campaign literature even after 11 of them asked him to stop.

3. These men served close enough to John Kerry when he was using their photo for the last year in his campaign to describe his "Band of Brothers". Why is it now they were too far away to notice what he did?

4. John O'Neill - the primary author of "Unfit for Command" is giving any proceeds of royalties for his share of the book to Navy Relief.

5. These boats served in close proximity to one another - perhaps 5 - 25 yards. The enlisted men berthed, ate, slept and worked in close proximity. The officers worked, berthed, ate and slept in the same quarters. They knew John Kerry as well as anyone. It is his conduct out of the boats as well as his combat conduct that these men testify to. How he took his orders, how he carried out his orders, how he dealt with his peers and then how he commanded the men who served on his boat. These are all valid questions to ask a candidate for the office of Commander in Chief.

6. One member of the Swift Boat Veteran's served on Kerry's boat - Steve Gardner. "My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?" --Steven Gardner

7. How can a "seared" memory be a mistaken recollection? It's not. It's a lie. It was a lie in 1986, it was a lie in 1992. It's a lie today. Both the intial searing and the current recollection. Ergo - John Kerry is a liar.Kerry "Corrects Record," "Seared" Memory of Christmas in Cambodia Now "Mistaken Recollection" (Thanks to Egon)

8.Main anti-swift tactic now seems to be Corsi comments. Response? "Jesse Jackson called New York 'hymietown'. Does that invalidate the civil rights movement?" by Truecons. Sadly, a Freeper is the one who released this info to the other side. Let's hope this is the end of this. (Not Truecons.) Dr. Corsi is a Harvard trained historian. His qualifications are impeccable and this is a further example of the left attacking the messenger.

I'm not pretending to be an expert - if you have other suggestions, threads, links, etc. please post them here. We have lots and lots of "Guests" these days - demonstrate for them Internet Grassroots activism at its best!

[Grampa Dave]

Freepers should donate enough to buy several of those torpedoes and put Lanny Davis's name on them.

[EdReform]

KERRY'S LIES ABOUT CAMBODIA IN CONGRESSIONAL RECORD

13 posted on 08/11/2004 12:47:15 PM PDT by areafiftyone:

[EdReform]

Bump!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Dionysius]

Boycott the stations that chickened out and refuse to air the add! And their advertisers! The Democrats and the ACLU are treating the First Amendment as if it were their private preserve.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[IPWGOP]

For the 'tongue-tied' please use/send this:

here is the link to the PDF file:

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf

Click the link, print out the pdf, mail it to Kerry at the address on the cartoon.

[Grampa Dave]

Thank you!

Lannie Davis and Komrad Kerry Kerrorists will have a lot of hissy fits if thousands of those are mailed in.

[IPWGOP]

Lannie Davis and Komrad Kerry Kerrorists will have a lot of hissy fits if thousands of those are mailed in.

Indeed they will. And if they get thousands of them mailed to them, perhaps they'll see that they are not just battling the Swiftees... they are battling TRUTH-LOVING Americans.

[IPWGOP]

You don't have to be a 'George Soros,' or a 'Michael Moore,' or a rich dude or dudette to do battle. All it takes is the cost of a stamp to send Kerry a Standard Form 180 to sign for the release of his military records.

Again, here is the info to do this:

here is the link to the PDF file:

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/obtain_copies/standard_form_180.pdf

Click the link, print out the pdf, mail it to Kerry at:

Kerry-Edwards 2004, P.O. Box 34640, Washington, DC 20043

[Grampa Dave]

I will be mailing your cartoon and a copy of the 180 release form today.

Monday, I donated to the Swiftboat Vets ad fund.

If thousands of Good Freepers did this on a weekly/monthly basis, Lannie Davis and Komrade Kerry's Kerrorists might get a little message, that their days of one sided terrorism are over.

[True Republican Patriot]

I just tried to buy the book "UNFIT TO COMMAND" at the local BORDERS Book Store and they told me they were not scheduled to receive it until the END of November!!! When told it was released Yesterday, they said good luck trying to find it. WELL, ONE MORE ORDER FOR AMAZON!!Looks like a stonewall in the bookstores too.

[Kackikat]

His Navy records are on his Kerry-Edwards website, I looked at them, although medical records are not available...I am former Navy and my medical records are not available either, because they don't accompany your regular record to the Navy Personnel Records.
If all of his Navy records are there I don't know...but most appear to be.

[blackie]

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

[PsyOp]

The man who fell off the boat would have heard all the shooting from the other boats and would have believed that their group was under attack. From his perception, Kerry would have been very brave to have returned to the firefight to retrieve him. It would certainly be more charitable for him to think that Kerry had acted quickly to save his boat and then acted bravely to save him, than to believe that the only reason he landed in the water in the first place was that Kerry panicked.

That's exactly the way I have been explaining this to people, and, given the evidence, seems to be the truth.

[speekinout]

I haven't read through all of the replies. But I do want to say that I admire these Swift Boat vets. They showed courage by going to war in the first place (I know, we're supposed to think that Kerry is the only courageous one who ever went. We can't trash him, but we can trash the others), and they're showing courage again by standing up for what they believe.

I do tend to believe them - I hope to get the book soon, so I'll have a more definite opinion. But what I really like is that they brought this all out months before the election, and Kerry has more than enough time to respond. He can release his records (Bush had to release all of his, so why not?), and he can bring witnesses, have debates, or whatever.

Kerry is the one who based his campaign on his 4 months in Nam, so that is what we have to judge him by.

[Aeronaut]

Thanks for the ping on this.

[Smartass]

[MeekOneGOP]

My pleasure. Thanks. :^)

[AReaganGirl]

Excuse me. Can you tell me what MSM is and what is a Jarhead? I am not up to date on new acronyms or words as I should be.

Thanks!