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O'Neils Navy Fires a Torpedo
self | 8/16/04 | bray

Posted on 08/16/2004 8:59:50 AM PDT by bray

The Swifties have earned the right to be heard. Any columnist who complains that this is a smear campaign or denies the Vets, their First Amendment Right should be called on it. How ironic that the Press tries to say who has the Constitutional Right to speak?? That is the beauty of this country, everybody has the right to be heard and let the chips fall where they may. Unfortunately the First Amendment has been undermined by the now crumbling Mainstream Monopoly.

Anyone who has fought and bled for America’s Freedom has a special right to speak and be heard. I did not serve, so I am grateful for each and every man who gave me the right to speak. If everyone is able to express his own Truth, than the actual Truth will find a way to seek it’s light. Do I know if the Swifties are telling the Truth or Yaaawn is telling it in country? No, but they know which ones are lying. Let them actually debate it because it is critical that this truth comes out.

Yaaaaawn Tax & Kerry came back as an eye witness to atrocities committed by American Troops in Viet Nam. Many of us at that age believed him and believed that our Government was fighting an unjust war while torturing the innocents of Viet Nam. When Kerry spoke in front of the Congress and said he saw people dismembered, we assumed he was not lying. When he said and wrote he was in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, we knew that had to be true, but was it??

He has admitted that the Cambodia story was a lie. How in the world can you be 15,000 miles away from home on Christmas Eve and not know exactly where you were?? He was on the river a total of 4 months and one of those 120 days was Christmas Eve. In 1968 was there a bigger day of the year than Christmas Eve and you were a scared and lonely boy in a war and now you say your “seared” memory of was not sure where you were?? The breadth of this lie cannot be measured!!!

The bigger fraud the Swifties have exposed once again, is that we have lost an objective press that is searching for the Truth. In actuality polls have shown that 95% of the press is going to vote/campaign for Kerry. These are very active participants in the electoral process and are working to get their nominee elected. The Swifties have shown that they will censor anything critical of Kerry no matter how well researched or numbers of eyewitnesses to these charges.

Compare this group to the ridiculous charges made by Wilson, Moore or the AWOL & Abu Grab fabrications. Every one of these unfounded attacks were given unlimited air and print in hopes of helping Kerry. Every one of these charges of the Presidents’ lies have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be lies. None of these liars have subsequently been called out as liars themselves. Why, because the Stone-age Press has a dog in this hunt and need to get their power back. The complete irony is that when they show their obvious hand, like with the Swifties it just reaffirms their complete lack of credibility, which is in the end is their reason for existing.

The crumbling of the Mainstream Monopoly continues and after this election Humpty Dumbie will never be put together again, thankfully. The new press is getting the message out and is exactly where the Swifties are motoring. Their story is cruising down the Mekong Delta of ideas and truth and past the razor wire of PravdABDNC. They are being examined for their trustworthiness and so far they are untouched. They have proved that Kerry is capable of lying about entering Cambodia in the most egregious way. In a time of War, then and now; speaking the Truth is all that matters. This little Navy has torpedoed not only the Kerry’s Lies, but a sinking Corrupted Monopoly to boot.

Pray for W and Our Troops


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To: bray

My 'to do' list for today:
1. Buy 'Unfit for Command'
2. Send another check to the Swifties, along with a thank you note.


21 posted on 08/16/2004 9:23:59 AM PDT by Spok
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To: bronxboy

THX

BTTT


22 posted on 08/16/2004 9:25:22 AM PDT by Quix (PRAYER WARRIORS, DO YOUR STUFF! LIVES AND NATIONS DEPEND ON IT)
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To: Izzy Dunne

"The right to free speech DOES NOT INCLUDE the right to be published in a newspaper of your choice. Since no newspaper threatens to jail the vets, there is no "rights" issue."

I agree to a point, but there is an expectation of equal treatment that they should expect from a purportedly "free and unbiased" press. For the "mainstream" media to blatantly black them out, and restrict access to media outlets that the likes of Moore, Clarke, and Wilson dominated for weeks is just plain wrong. It isn't a matter of being published in a paper of your choice; it is a matter of being covered at ALL.

Nobody could compare the NG story and the SBVT story and claim that coverage was equivalent. Not with a straight face anyway.

Whether you like how they do it or not, Rush, Hannity, and more recently, FoxNews have given play to both sides of these issues and other, probably in line with their "we report, you decide" motto. The rest of the media appears to have a "we report what we decide is fit for you to hear/see" motto, which, though unstated, screams louder than any amount of advertising Fox could do.


23 posted on 08/16/2004 9:26:08 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (With Kerry, "nuance" and "unprincipled" are one and the same. NOW with added "compromised!!")
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To: bray

Nice sentiment but we don't have the right to be heard, just the right to say what we want. If the media doesn't publish it, it's hardly a denial of free speech. Biased, yes.

Ahh, but the Internet is a wonderful thing. No longer do we have to stand on our soap boxes all day long. We can throw up our ideas and have people stumble across them 24 hours a day.


24 posted on 08/16/2004 9:42:22 AM PDT by kenth
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To: SpinyNorman
John Kerry lied 30 years ago about the Vets and today continues to lie about his service in Vietnam
25 posted on 08/16/2004 9:43:03 AM PDT by cpdiii ( Oil field trash ( and proud of it) turned pharmacist.)
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To: bray
Christmas, 1968: Kerry with his Swift Boat Crew in Scambodia. Kerry is wearing his CIA hat that came from Richard Nixon a month before Nixon was sworn in as President.


26 posted on 08/16/2004 9:52:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm a donor to the Swift Boat Vets fund. Have you donated? If not please do it now!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Sweeet picture!! And yes I have.

Pray for W and Our Viet Nam Vets

27 posted on 08/16/2004 9:57:03 AM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: tahiti
Freeper's worry me when they sound like Democrats invoking the right of free speech over a private property owner.

Not to worry. Most of us are fully aware of the difference between "rights" and what is merely "common decency."

28 posted on 08/16/2004 10:11:47 AM PDT by syriacus (How does John Kerry spell "diplomacy"? ---- ----- ----"D-U-P-L-I-C-I-T-Y")
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To: kenth

I agree on this issue too:

"everybody has the right to be heard"

No they don't! The Constitution guarantees you the RIGHT TO SPEAK. It does not guarantee you the RIGHT TO BE HEARD.

If the Constitution guaranteed you the right to be HEARD, then you could not get up and walk out of a meeting or a music concert .. you would be forced to stay. And .. there would be only one TV station and one radio station and you would be required to listen to only those stations.

John O'Neill's decorated veterans have the RIGHT TO SPEAK. They are firsthand witnesses to the character of Kerry during the stress of war, and that makes it relevant to the election for President, during a time we are at war.

This is a free speech issue and the Kerry groups need to be called on it.


29 posted on 08/16/2004 10:33:18 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: The only way to Peace is through Victory!)
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To: SpinyNorman
there is an expectation of equal treatment that they should expect from a purportedly "free and unbiased" press.

You and I are on the same side of the fence here - my point was ONLY that to call it an abridgement of 1st amendment rights is a mistake.

Whether you have an "expectation of equal treatment" or not is immaterial to what goes on. The Constitution does not gurantee us a "free and unbiased" press - it just says the government won't (must not) interfere with it.

I agree it's a sorry situation. Being free doesn't mean we get the best. It means we have a better CHANCE at getting the best. It's up to the people to require it. And, for the most part, they don't.

30 posted on 08/16/2004 10:36:20 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: bray

Bannister, is that you?


31 posted on 08/16/2004 10:37:10 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: EdReform; bray
John Kerry wrote his Review for "Apocalypse Now" on Oct 14, 1979 in the Boston Herald.

Here is the article in JPG format.

Thank you, thank you FreeRepublic.com !


In the BOTTOM JPG, check out the TOP RIGHT paragraph regarding Cambodia .....

"On more than one occasion, I, like Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now, took my patrol boat into Cambodia. In fact, I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."

There is the lie. He NEVER WAS in Cambodia. The Swiftboat book Unfit for Command addresses that issue. And Nixon, who had WON election in November 1968, did not take office until January, 1969.

John Kerry is a LIAR! I think mostly Bush haters would vote for Kerry. I say George Bush in a landslide win November 2nd !

John Kerry's "Apocalypse Now" fantasy in Cambodia.
Great scan of 1979 newpaper article.


Above published elsewhere:

John Kerry in Cambodia
["Apocalypse Now" Review]

Google Search "John Kerry 1968 Cambodia"


32 posted on 08/16/2004 11:08:00 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: EdReform; bray


33 posted on 08/16/2004 11:08:35 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
"On more than one occasion, I like Martin Sheen in "Apocalypse Now," took my patrol boat into Cambodia. In fact I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.

John Kerry “Apocalypse Now" on Oct 14, 1979 in the Boston Herald.

The Kerry Campaign has now admitted that this was a fabrication. This is far from a slip of the tongue this is a well thought out written attack on a President and country that not only impugned them, but the Ex-Government of South Vietnam. This soon became the basic prejudice of the history of the Vietnam War. The damage by this statement and further statements shamed an entire generation of men who gave their heroic service to their country and turned it to humiliation.

John Kerry came back from the war a decorated hero and soon parlayed that into the most decorated witness of war crime atrocities committed by the United States and South Vietnam. Nobody would question his truthfulness because he had chest full of medals and had no motivation to lie. Anybody who questioned him was quickly painted as a war criminal and a tool of the military. He was subsequently announced as the only moral person in an immoral war and this is exactly why this lie is so sickening.

We have now found and John Kerry has admitted that he was never in Cambodia on Christmas Eve or any other time. He never violated Cambodia’s sovereignty and neither did the South Vietnamese Army. Forget that President Nixon was not in office in 1968, but he never ordered any American Troops into Cambodia. President Nixon was telling the truth and John Kerry, decorated war hero was lying. President Nixon had to surrender to the North Vietnamese in shame and went to his grave a war criminal because of these lies. Richard Nixon we find four decades later, was telling the Truth.

His testimony and this story was the foundation of the Vietnam scar on America’s military. The stories of torturing prisoners and villagers became the visual of Viet Nam. The indiscriminate incursions into Cambodia and Laos was common knowledge. Because of these stories the soldiers came back from Nam to be spit upon by the American public. Now we find out these stories were all the fantasy of a young John Kerry who managed to keep his fabrications in the America’s consciousness. Vietnam became the rifle butt that hammered our military, over and over again. All of this was built off of the Cambodia lie and his false testimony to Congress.

John Kerry was still telling these lies as of last year when he showed off a hat he brought back from his Cambodia incursion. This he claimed was his lucky hat, given to him by a CIA agent?? What kind of dementia is this man suffering from? Did he actually believe any of his lies or did he enjoy being Mr Macho who steered his boat into another country during combat? Did he enjoy being Blood and Guts Kerry or was there something more sinister??

Because of this lie both Presidents Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon became the Pyrrhus’ of American politics. Both went to their graves as accused war criminals, violating the sovereignty of innocent countries. As we find out that they were the innocent victims of a smear campaign led by John Kerry. John Kerry painted himself as the only moral person in an immoral war. As we find out the military was indeed fighting this war morally and the only immoral person in this story was John Kerry. Because of this lie two Presidents were made war criminals and an entire generation of soldiers were spit on. What can John Kerry offer to repair his damage he has done to America?? The very least he can do is finally come clean, apologize for his atrocious lies and resign from the race!

Pray for W and Our Troops

34 posted on 08/16/2004 11:14:32 AM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: bray; Grampa Dave
Good post bump!

The Kerry Campaign has now admitted that this was a fabrication.

I thought he 'changed' his lie to say it was in January 1969. Or did they finally fess up ??


35 posted on 08/16/2004 1:33:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: bray

The Media like the Democrats march in lockstep and to the same drummer! The so called "Mainstream Media" is nothing more than a puppet and a propaganda machine for the Democrats.


36 posted on 08/16/2004 1:39:44 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Who's bannister??

Pray for W and The Truth

37 posted on 08/16/2004 2:55:26 PM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: bray

bannister bray, you tricky devil, you... got your number!


38 posted on 08/16/2004 4:08:02 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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