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Iraq al-Qaida Says Pope, West Are Doomed
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/19/06 | Anna Johnson

Posted on 09/18/2006 10:54:20 PM PDT by XR7

An al-Qaida-linked extremist group warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the West were "doomed," as protesters raged across the Muslim world to demand more of an apology from the pontiff for his remarks about Islam and violence.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, issued a statement on a Web forum vowing to continue its holy war against the West. The authenticity of the statement could not be independently verified.

The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."

Islam forbids drinking alcohol and requires non-Muslims to pay a head tax to safeguard their lives if conquered by Muslims. They are exempt if they convert to Islam.

In Indian-controlled Kashmir, meanwhile, shops, businesses and schools shut down in response to a strike call by the head of a hard-line Muslim separatist leader to denounce Benedict. For the third day running, people burned tires and shouted "Down with the pope."

Protests also broke out in Iraq, where angry demonstrators burned an effigy of the pope in Basra, and in Indonesia, where more than 100 people rallied in front of the heavily guarded Vatican Embassy in Jakarta, waving banners that said the "Pope is building religion on hatred."

The pope...cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of Islam's Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman" and referred to spreading Islam "by the sword."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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Hey, wait a minute.
I thought Bush was lying about there being al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Where'd they come from?

These homicidal maniacs would kill us all if they had the right technology.
Good thing there's plenty of ocean between us.

1 posted on 09/18/2006 10:54:21 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
Good thing there's plenty of ocean between us.

You sure about that?
2 posted on 09/18/2006 10:56:12 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: XR7

Pay the tax or die (unless you convert)? I thought I saw two Islamic scholars on BBC say that Islam was never spread by the sword.


3 posted on 09/18/2006 10:56:53 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: XR7
...as protesters raged across the Muslim world...

Why do the heathen rage...?
-- Psalms 2:1

4 posted on 09/18/2006 11:01:02 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Just kill a million of them, and they will hide like Quaddafi for 15 years : )


5 posted on 09/18/2006 11:03:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Bushwacker777

"Pay the tax or die (unless you convert)? "

Finally....the Democrats plan for a new America is revealed.


6 posted on 09/18/2006 11:03:39 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Bushwacker777

Remember, every Christian who decides to limit their family size to one, two or none is working to make this guy's prediction come true.


7 posted on 09/18/2006 11:04:03 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777

Remember, every Christian who decides to limit their family size to one, two or none is working to make this guy's prediction come true.


8 posted on 09/18/2006 11:04:04 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: XR7
Islam...requires non-Muslims to pay a head tax to safeguard their lives if conquered by Muslims. They are exempt if they convert to Islam.

And once they convert, they are killed if they try to renounce islam and quit being a muslim.

Here's an analogy:

The Mafia requires non-Mafia members to pay protection money to safeguard their lives and businesses if they live in a Mafia-controlled area. They are exempt if they become Mafia members. Once they become Mafia members, they are killed if they try to renounce the Mafia and quit being Mafia members.

9 posted on 09/18/2006 11:05:59 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: stephenjohnbanker


Kill a billion of them and get some sleep


10 posted on 09/18/2006 11:06:12 PM PDT by devolve
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To: Bushwacker777

A "head tax"? Meaning you pay a tax to keep your head?

Someone needs to ask those Islamic scholars specifially about that one.


11 posted on 09/18/2006 11:06:42 PM PDT by drierice
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To: Bushwacker777

Hey I got three.
Know why??













Didn't want four.


12 posted on 09/18/2006 11:06:58 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: XR7
The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross....

Sounds like ACLU lawyers giving counsel to the muslims?

13 posted on 09/18/2006 11:08:36 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: XR7

Ruh roh......we're dooooommmed! Can we just squash them like the cockroaches they are and get this over with?


14 posted on 09/18/2006 11:08:41 PM PDT by Just Lori (VOTE!...........or suffer the consequences.......)
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To: calljack

If every conservative Christian had three or more kids the world would be better off for a variety of reasons.


15 posted on 09/18/2006 11:09:31 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: XR7


I think everyone is sick of these idiots.

They have rioted one too many times.


16 posted on 09/18/2006 11:10:05 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Bushwacker777
That's ridiculous.

WHO is going to feed, dress, house, and send all of those "extra" kids......YOU?

How many children do YOU have?

17 posted on 09/18/2006 11:11:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Spanaway Lori

Will this work in mass quantities?

18 posted on 09/18/2006 11:12:00 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Dajjal
Poll: Sinking Perceptions Of Islam
(IN) Although Americans believe they are better informed about Islam than they were five years ago, a new CBS News poll finds fewer than one in five say their impression of the religion is favorable. Forty-five percent of respondents said they have an unfavorable view of Islam, a rise from 36 percent in February. Americans today are also more likely than not to believe that Islam encourages violence, at least in comparison to other religions around the world. The poll finds 46 percent of Americans believe Islam encourages violence more than other religions, compared with 39 percent of Americans who felt that way two months ago. The last few months have seen escalating sectarian violence...

http://www.thepath.fm/news/newsitem.cfm?id=17759


19 posted on 09/18/2006 11:15:25 PM PDT by XR7
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To: nopardons; Bushwacker777
That's ridiculous.

Why?
Sounds like good ol' fashioned common sense to me.

20 posted on 09/18/2006 11:18:54 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Bushwacker777

"Now that's a good reason to breed. Where do they find these guys?"

21 posted on 09/18/2006 11:19:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: XR7

The West is Doomed!

(Cue the Orcs.) DOOM! DOOM! DOOM!


22 posted on 09/18/2006 11:20:11 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: XR7

Well, I guess that will teach the Pope to be more specific in his comments - ie. Islam teaches terrorism. Then at least we could have a dialog regarding that rather than "kill the opposition". Seems their only response is violence whenever something is said that they disagree with - typical response of barbarians.

Should I duck!


23 posted on 09/18/2006 11:20:53 PM PDT by Deagle (n)
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To: XR7

Hmmm...Seems a few Jihadis are salivating over a bowl of Uncle Bin's Converted Christians...


24 posted on 09/18/2006 11:21:19 PM PDT by sourcery (A libertarian is a conservative who has been mugged ...by his own government)
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To: XR7
Al-Qaeda in Iraq? Whatever happened to that leader of theirs? You know, Al Zarkootie, Al-Zarkowabunga or something like that?

These guys a a real riot...

the infowarrior

25 posted on 09/18/2006 11:24:51 PM PDT by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: tflabo

Are'nt you glad that McCain and Graham are overseeing
the civil rights of these innocents?


26 posted on 09/18/2006 11:26:11 PM PDT by ChiMark
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To: tflabo
And most of those Dems would cut your and their mothers throat for that extra tax...
27 posted on 09/18/2006 11:27:30 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: XR7

Don't confuse the liberals and the Traitors with the facts.


28 posted on 09/18/2006 11:29:09 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: XR7

29 posted on 09/18/2006 11:31:16 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: XR7

[The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, issued a statement on a Web forum vowing to continue its holy war against the West. ... The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."]



I'm pretty sure this isn't authentic. According to news reports I've seen, these Muslim "activists" only resort to violence in self defense and if we imperialistic Americans (and our butcherous Jewish friends) would just LEAVE THEM ALONE they'd only be too happy to live their lives in peace and harmony with their non-Muslim neighbors.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1703181,00.html

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/409192893/m/9050005780001


30 posted on 09/18/2006 11:31:44 PM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: XR7
Al Quaida says=Stop saying we are violent people or we will kill you!
(LOL)
31 posted on 09/18/2006 11:33:40 PM PDT by cavador
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To: XR7
An al-Qaida-linked extremist group warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the West were "doomed,"..........

On March 9, 1945, a date that few Americans living today have ever heard about, U.S. bombers killed 100,000 Japanese in Tokyo in a single night of fire-bombing.

If Islamist radicals ever succeed in igniting the rage of America the way the Japanese did, radical Islam will be preached only in Hell.

32 posted on 09/18/2006 11:37:20 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
If Islamist radicals ever succeed in igniting the rage of America the way the Japanese did, radical Islam will be preached only in Hell.

Back to its roots.

33 posted on 09/18/2006 11:40:09 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7; All
"We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."

Their intent is clear, as they so state. I really think the time has come to extirpate ALL Muslims from our country, close our borders and get ready to defend ourselves. To hell with all this PC crap, lets just end it now! Our politician's will continue to chant the mantra that "Islam is a religion of peace, Islam is a religion of peace"....ad nauseum. We need to vote them out of office asap.

We better wake up soon and put a quick end to all this horses**t. There is no question that they want to kill us, period. If I hear Bush say that Islam is a religion of peace one more time I'm going to set the new hurling distance record by blowing chunks 100+ feet.

Stop staying at their motels, stop buying gas from Muslim owned gas stations and mini-marts. Yank all their visa's and give them one week to get out of our country.

The war is on, folks. Unfortunately, half of America seems to think that they'll just go away and all will be back to normal. Ain't gonna happen. They must be driven from our shores starting tomorrow.

rant over........for now......
34 posted on 09/18/2006 11:44:04 PM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Polybius
Once, they were capable of bringing down skyscrapers, soon, tricks such as this will be all that remains of their limited repetoire...


35 posted on 09/18/2006 11:48:41 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: XR7

I'm actually glad these maniacs have put this so bluntly. Obviously, the hard-core libs are too deeply enmeshed in their fantasy of BUSH AS ENEMY to pay attention ... but perhaps now those who have been on the fence, or who are just too busy with their own lives to pay the attention they should to matters of this sort, will get the message:

If people tell you they intend to kill you, you should listen. Most of the time they mean it.


36 posted on 09/19/2006 12:04:37 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: XR7
The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ...

hmmm...this raghead has evidently been reading the New York Times.

37 posted on 09/19/2006 12:04:45 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: devolve

yeah : )


38 posted on 09/19/2006 12:05:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: spinestein

39 posted on 09/19/2006 12:12:06 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: nopardons

"WHO is going to feed, dress, house, and send all of those "extra" kids......YOU?

How many children do YOU have?"

In responce to me saying every conservative Christian should have three or more kids.

Well, nopardons, to answer your question I have 7 wonderful children and one on the way. And they are fed and housed by me thank you!


40 posted on 09/19/2006 12:16:14 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: XR7

were we not already "doomed" before this latest event too? lol
what a bunch of islamic douche bags.


41 posted on 09/19/2006 12:20:50 AM PDT by SoothSayerONETIME
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To: Bushwacker777
Are you planning on sending all eight and counting, I assume, children to college? If so, do you expect that they'll all get scholarships?

The reason that schools can offer scholarships, is because other parents pay full price.

Each to his/her own and YOU shouldn't tell others what how many children they SHOULD have.

Many Muslims have children to use as cannon/bomb/plane fodder.

Americans shouldn't.

42 posted on 09/19/2006 12:24:39 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Bushwacker777
Pretty self-righteous and condescending you are.
And, you write as if you've swallowed the lefties' EarthFirst, Zero-Population Growth propaganda hook-line-and-sinker.
43 posted on 09/19/2006 12:34:31 AM PDT by XR7
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To: stephenjohnbanker

We need to show extreme force just once in the middle east!


44 posted on 09/19/2006 12:45:23 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: XR7
First...buy yourself a good dictionary and look up the meaning of the word "condescending".

Next get someone to help you to understand it and how to apply it.

Thirdly, don't make wild assumptions about someone you don't know and most assuredly, don't tell someone on a CONSERVATIVE forum, that they are a far lefty loon.

Some people enjoy having large families; others don't. Some can afford to send multiple children to the best schools and colleges, summer camp, piano or violin or whatever lessons; most can't. Telling others, in stentorian tones, that ALL CHRISTIANS should have at least THREE children is self-righteous, smarmy, and over the line. BTW, what about Jews? We have a lot of very nice FREEPERS who are Jewish.

Lots of people with m any children DO hope that all of their children will get scholarships. There is no other way that they can ever hope to send the children to college. I stated a simple fact......those that pay full price, ARE also paying for other people's kids. And no, endowments and scholarships don't cover all of the costs for scholarship kids.

Okay, so how many children do YOU have? :-)

45 posted on 09/19/2006 12:47:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
con·de·scend
Pronunciation: "kän-di-'send
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French condescendre,
from Late Latin condescendere, from Latin com- + descendere to descend
1 a : to descend to a less formal or dignified level :
UNBEND b : to waive the privileges of rank
2 : to assume an air of superiority

Hmm.
Describes you to a "T".
And, you hijacked the thread.

46 posted on 09/19/2006 12:58:39 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
Nope, but is certainly describes the post I replied to.

Neither have I hijacked this thread; unlike you.

47 posted on 09/19/2006 1:01:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, I have two of college age. One is working and has not decided on what to do in life -- the other has entered a marketing and international finance program in university and yes, he has gained an almost full tuition scholarship.

The one issue that united Darwinian thought and traditional Christianity is that large families is a plus.


48 posted on 09/19/2006 1:03:12 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: nopardons

Oh, just for your information I paid my way through college and graduate school by...


HAVING A JOB!


49 posted on 09/19/2006 1:05:28 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777
But YOU began this by pontificating on how EVERY CHRISTIAN ( what about Jews ?) should have at least three children.

I then explained that not everyone wants/can afford to have lots of children and that the Muslims have many kids, but use them for cannon fodder. Americans should have children in order to use them for suicide bombing missions.

Then, as I said, you expect your kids to get scholarships. I was not wrong in that assessment. Thank you for proving my point.

50 posted on 09/19/2006 1:14:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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