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JIM ROBINSON AS THE NEW JOSEPH FARAH - STABBING THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT IN THE BACK [Re:Giuliani]
On one the few rational minds left around here - but for long | 4/24/2007 | Al Simmons

Posted on 04/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons

About me:

Lurker - since 1998

Member - since 1999

In self-imposed exile - since April 2007

The tone of the debate and the attacks on long-time fellow Freepers for the cardinal sin of daring to support Rudy Giuliani in early 2007 around here have really saddened me. Instead of fighting the enemy FR is now imposing an 'ideological purity' test on FR members. The well-oiled train has gone off the rails and Mr. Robinson risks becoming the next Joe Farah - a fellow who started a great website for conservative news and opinions, but who gradually drifted off to la-la land, losing all credibility - and readership - in the process.

He has set himself squarely in the Internet media spotlight, doused himself with gasoline, and and lighted himself on fire - a fact that has not escaped the attention of the left-wing lunatics at Daily Kos. Their reporting on what has been going on at FR is perhaps the first factually true account published on their site.

Jim, if that quote of yours about setting up an organization to 'Swiftboat Rudy' is accurate as quoted in their article, the only thing I have to say to you is that you ought to be ashamed of yourself, as you have now become the back-stabber of the conservative cause.

If you wish to marginalize this site by turning it into a narrow "several-issue" forum, that is your right. Just as it is my right to choose to not participate here any longer.

But you will be disappointed if you think that the crude, illiterate "goon squad" you have allowed free rein around here (dmw, narses, dirtboy, extremely extreme extremist, ReaganMan and several others - if I have slighted anyone, please email me if you want onto this list) will elevate the level of intellectual debate.

The result has been predictably in the other direction. That is what happens when you hire a bunch of brown shirts to enforce your own brand of political correctness.

Well, guess what? Politics is 99% BS and one can quite nicely live one's life without the need to bloviate about it. I know how I am going to vote. I could care less about anyone else. Life is too short to waste my time around here when I am clearly one of those made to feel like they are not welcome.

So, go ahead Jim -

MAKE MY DAY. BAN ME. I DARE YOU.


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To: Al Simmons

Two words...

Duncan Hunter.

A real conservative.

I’d take Rudi over Hill, but I am tired of having to choose between the lesser of two evils.

I am also tired of RINO’s trying to explain their ever shifting “principles”.


721 posted on 05/14/2007 3:10:51 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: PsyOp
I,for one,got awfully tired of seeing anyone who said Rudy wasn't his choice be ridiculed as naive or stupid.
722 posted on 05/15/2007 2:46:52 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: itsahoot

Great point, pilgrim!


723 posted on 05/15/2007 9:17:35 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: hoosierham
I,for one,got awfully tired of seeing anyone who said Rudy wasn't his choice be ridiculed as naive or stupid.

Not just on this forum, but on talk radio as well. I get to listen to it all day (Roberts, O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage). Hannity, for months acted like Rudi was signing his checks. I can't tell you how many times I e-mailed him to tell him about Duncan Hunter before Hannity even deigned to mention his name.

I'd Like to see a Thompson/Hunter ticket. Thompson at the head of the ticket for one or two terms and then hand off to Hunter. That could secure us the White House for some time. Both have solid conservative credentials and know how to communicate.

724 posted on 05/15/2007 9:19:47 AM PDT by PsyOp ("As the Prophet used to say, 'If the shoe fits, there probably aren't enough explosives in it.'")
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To: unspun; Al Simmons
(Presuming someone else may have explained "conservative" to the opus author by this time.)

“Conservatism, we are told, is out-of-date. The charge is preposterous and we ought boldly to say so. The laws of God, and of nature, have no dateline. The principles on which the Conservative political position is based have been established by a process that has nothing to do with the social, economic and political landscape that changes from decade to decade and from century to century. These principles are derived from the nature of man, and from the truths that God has revealed about His creation. Circumstances do change. So do the problems that are shaped by circumstances. But the principles that govern the solution of the problems do not. To suggest that the Conservative philosophy is out of date is akin to saying that the Golden Rule, or the Ten Commandments or Aristotle's Politics are out of date. The Conservative approach is nothing more or less than an attempt to apply the wisdom and experience and the revealed truths of the past to the problems of today.” – Barry Goldwater, The Conscience Of A Conservative, 1960.

725 posted on 05/15/2007 9:23:59 AM PDT by PsyOp (Cry “Havoc”, and let slip the weasels of politics! – archy.)
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To: Al Simmons

726 posted on 05/15/2007 9:27:12 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: PsyOp
You know what’s crazy about all these intense Rudy threads? A large amount of old time freepers were banned over them, including this one. It’s like anyone who registered around 1999 was a RINO.
727 posted on 05/15/2007 9:30:06 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: PsyOp

728 posted on 05/15/2007 9:33:51 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Vision
You know what’s crazy about all these intense Rudy threads?

A fair look at those threads would indicate those banned were predominately long-time forum prima donnas who sought internet martyrdom by publically provoking the owner. They consider being banned some sort of badge of honor, I guess.

Most of the rest of us found their theatrics entertaining and are downright pleased they and their unjustifiably inflated egos are gone.

I haven't yet seen anyone banned for offering thought-provoking political commentary.

729 posted on 05/15/2007 9:55:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

When Jim laid down the law, the egos came out to take him on.


730 posted on 05/15/2007 9:57:34 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Al Simmons
Well Al.... Giuliani agrees with Hitlery(Kennedy, Kerry, Frank) on most issues..
Evidently you do to..
731 posted on 05/15/2007 10:03:22 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Vision

Not to worry, though. Its likely the entire cohort will be back posting as ‘newbies’ under brand-new screenames shortly after the primaries.


732 posted on 05/15/2007 10:05:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

I’m sure. Most people don’t respect how addicted they are to FR.


733 posted on 05/15/2007 10:08:07 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision
Addicted to FR?

Why,that is the silliest thing I've ever heard of;you might as well say addicted to the truth!

734 posted on 05/15/2007 6:05:07 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Al Simmons

Hey, you left my name off your list.
What don’t you understand about “Rudy is not acceptable”?


735 posted on 05/17/2007 11:41:46 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Al Simmons

tell it isn’t so Al!!!


736 posted on 05/17/2007 11:45:57 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: Al Simmons

Kudos on your post, Al. I do think Robinson has allowed a free rein to the hate-spewing anti-Rudy people, who are also spewing hate against Rudy supporters, and even against people who say we should look at both Rudy’s pluses and minuses and occasionally defend Rudy without endorsing him, like me. It’s disgraceful.


737 posted on 05/18/2007 1:26:22 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Al Simmons

And yes, “crude” and “illiterate,” as well as “goon squad,” are appropriate terms for some of the anti-Rudy people on FReep.


738 posted on 05/18/2007 1:27:53 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Luke21

There is nothing wrong with providing feedback to the owner of the site. As with anything else in life, if you see something you think is wrong, you speak up. Not always, but when it matters. Don’t call that “whining” just because you don’t want to hear it.


739 posted on 05/18/2007 1:29:38 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: PsyOp

Goldwater would not have cared for the extreme anti-Rudy comments on this site, not at all. And I mean the Goldwater of 1964.


740 posted on 05/18/2007 1:32:06 AM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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