Posted on 12/23/2007 3:29:05 PM PST by LibWhacker
If you're ticketed by Green Bay police, you'll get more than a fine. You'll get fingerprinted, too. It's a new way police are cracking down on crime.
If you're caught speeding or playing your music too loud, or other crimes for which you might receive a citation, Green Bay police officers will ask for your drivers license and your finger. You'll be fingerprinted right there on the spot. The fingerprint appears right next to the amount of the fine.
Police say it's meant to protect you -- in case the person they're citing isn't who they claim to be. But not everyone is sold on that explanation.
"What we've seen happen for the last couple of years [is] increasing use of false or fraudulent identification documents," Captain Greg Urban said.
Police say they want to prevent the identity theft problem that Milwaukee has, where 13 percent of all violators give a false name.
But in Green Bay, where police say they only average about five cases in a year, drivers we talked with think the new policy is extreme.
"That's going too far," Ken Scherer from Oconto said. "You look at the ID, that's what they're there for. Either it's you or it's not. I don't think that's a valid excuse."
"I would feel uncomfortable but I would do it," Carol Pilgrim of Green Bay said.
Citizens do have the right to say no. "They could say no and not have to worry about getting arrested," defense attorney Jackson Main said. "On the other hand, I'm like everybody else. When a police officer tells me to do something, I'm going to do it whether I have the right to say no or not."
That's exactly why many drivers are uneasy about the fine print in this fingerprinting policy.
Police stress that the prints are just to make sure you are who you claim to be and do not go into any kind of database; they simply stay on the ticket for future reference if the identity is challenged.
Anyone in Green Bay had this done to them yet?
How do we know someone won’t use those fingerprints in theft identity?
OK,you’re not required to provide a fingerprint.Those who are stopped should be told this in clear terms by the cop making the request.
Freedom comes at a cost. Law-abiding citizens may have to be willing to go to jail to fight this kind of tyranny. But at some point, either you fight it, or the tyrants just tighten the noose.
Not because I'm afraid of some database. Shoot, being a veteran my fingerprints are already on file.
Because they have no need of them for a minor violation.
What’s next?? Blood samples and DNA verification for speeding tickets??
Another slippery slope...
Just another step on the road to totalitarianism.
“Your Papers,Please!”
“Another slippery slope...”
we are in freefall.
No fingerprint, well then how about a bit of tazer?
How do I prove I’m not an illegal? Well “official” documentation of course. How do I prove that the “official” documentation isn’t forged? Well fingerprints of course? Retinal scans? Urine tests? But of course I have the right to refuse... if I don’t want to drive a car, or if I don’t want to work. Like it or not, that’s the path ahead I expect.
Fast Forward. These days you can't even open an account ANYWHERE without that Social Security Number.
An’t no way in hell you’re going to get mine this way.
Sheeple - that’s another story.
Many things done by the gubmint is done in the interest of “conditioning” the sheeple to more intrusive enforcement or downright violation of your rights. Another example would be seeing more cops wearing military apparel and carrying assault weapons. Using drivers licenses as proof of identity instead of ability to operate a vehicle. Tasering citizens at the first sign of sarcasm.
Yeah, right. Had to give it to renew my driver's license last month.
Say hello to my leetle sparking friend!
Are Green Bay police permitted to ask about legal residency in the country?
And what if I refuse to be fingerprinted?
If you want law enforcement to crack down on the illegals, they are going to have to have the tools to identify a citizen from a non citizen. Are you ready for it?
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