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Dr. Laura: Women Share the Blame for Cheating Men. (See, it's mostly her fault).
MSNBC ^ | 3-11-08 | Mike Celezic

Posted on 03/12/2008 4:55:51 AM PDT by ciocia

Dr. Laura Schlessinger has never been one to shrink from controversy, and she leaped headlong into one on Monday when she said that if a husband cheats, his wife may share some of the blame.

“When the wife does not focus in on the needs and the feelings, sexually, personally, to make him feel like a man, to make him feel like a success, to make him feel like her hero, he’s very susceptible to the charm of some other woman making him feel what he needs,” the popular psychologist and radio personality said.

More commonly known as just “Dr. Laura,” Schlessinger made the remarks while participating in one of several panel discussions on TODAY dealing with the breaking news that New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer had been connected to a high-priced prostitution ring.

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To: Hildy

They were also reporting on FOX (Greta Von Sustern) that it was a one time thing and that the extra money was for the next time. I don’t trust FOX on this issue, I think that they are reporting the Dem talking points, out of fear of being accused of not being fair to a Democrat governor.

Anyway, would no condoms mean that he was difficult? I heard that they said that he was sometimes difficult.


361 posted on 03/12/2008 4:18:00 PM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: StolarStorm
Ahhhh, yes ya did...

The problem is when a man marries a thin wife (and finds thin attractive), works hard to stay fit himself and the wife doesn't care enough to do the same.

You said the problem is with selfish woman who don't care enough to stay thin to make their (shallow) husbands happy...

I verbally spar with teens, tweens, young adults and a matter of fact ten year old daily...FR is kinda like my 'bullpen' warm up.

362 posted on 03/12/2008 4:18:12 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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To: Hildy

OH Hildy, you don’t have a heart. lol


363 posted on 03/12/2008 4:18:31 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Even my tagline is sad....I can't stand ANY of the candidates!)
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To: StolarStorm

Pay attention,
I have a degree in Nutrition and Biochem...
yes, you can’t gain weight from nothing, but you can have a metabolism so slow and disease states so profound that weight loss is extremely difficult in ‘fast and easy’ terms.

Plus you have genetics, fat storing/famine hormones, aging, activity etc. It’s not ‘gee, just eat a little less dear and you’ll be a size 2 next week!’

You may have to accept that the smallest she can be and be healthy is a size 12, and it may take her a year or two to get there.

That’s the reality.

And the other reality is that if she’s married to an uncaring selfish lout, she’d be better off leaving him and THEN losing weight.


364 posted on 03/12/2008 4:19:37 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Why is it shallow for a man to expect that his wife care about his happiness? The fat is a symptom. There are other symptoms of the same kind of selfishness. Trust me. Most of the women I know that are huge, have many other traits that are symptomatic of basic selfishness. So we perhaps have battle b/w shallow men and selfish women. At least its easy to make a shallow man happy... just lose some friggin weight.


365 posted on 03/12/2008 4:21:18 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: SeaHawkFan

I think the issue is sometimes this ‘kinks’ appear after many years of marriage when boredom sets in and when one spouse says “Hun! How do you feel about triple barbed floggers and chains from the ceiling?”

And the first spouse thinks “Who the heck have I married and what the hell are they talkin’ about!!?!?”


366 posted on 03/12/2008 4:27:26 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: StolarStorm

But that’s just it hunny...
She can lose weight, but you’ll still be shallow.


367 posted on 03/12/2008 4:28:16 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: najida
Sigh..... I never said that it was psychologically easy to eat less... just that the actual function of losing weight is an easy solution... eat less. And yes, it takes time... never said otherwise.

And the medical situations you are describing really only fit a small subset of the population that is obese (men and women).

I've had plenty of chuckles listening to very fat people complain about their "metabolism" after stuffing their faces with 3 times the food I just ate. I pass on desert, don't drink soda and eat reasonable portions because I actually care enough to make that sacrifice. Selfish people don't care enough to limit themselves.

And you assume that all men who think their wives should care enough to lose weight are "selfish louts". LOL Your bias is showing.

I consider a woman who lets her self go to be a selfish lout myself, and the man would be better off leaving that type of person as well. Let the next guy deal with a woman who cares so little about her husband that she refuses to be fit for him. So I guess it works out!!
368 posted on 03/12/2008 4:29:41 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: najida
And she would still be a selfish loser if she only lost weight to forestall a divorce.. not to make herself and her husband happier.
369 posted on 03/12/2008 4:32:10 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

I do two things-— work in nutrition and teach dance.

Most of my clients and students are female.

I’m a female. Yes, I do have a bias. In my job, I hear their sides of the story (unfair but dems da breaks) I see them struggle, I see their self-esteem in the toilet, I see them struggle more, and many I see just give the hell up and quit trying....

(And this isn’t just weight, it’s eating D/O, diabetes etc)

The ones who do best are those with really good family support, either from spouses, children etc... Those that fail usually have either someone sabotaging them or simply no one who cares.

Now, for the dance, as in a post earlier...the women who show up because their husbands ask them to show up for belly dance? Almost always fail....and the reason is they are there to make someone who doesn’t care for them love them (usually). To a woman, their self-esteem is in the pits and it breaks my heart.

The ones who succeed, dance beautifully and make their hubbies proud are the ones who came for themselves and dance for themselves (and me). Right down to the navel piercings and picking out the coolest costumes....there is a big difference in the groups.


370 posted on 03/12/2008 4:37:44 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: StolarStorm

We’re in agreement....
If anyone finds themselves married to someone who’s affection is based on something like
a body size,
if they take up a ‘sexy dance’,
if they’re willing to submit to a sexual practice that really disturbs them....

They need to get away as fast as they can and find something better....they deserve it and the person they’re married to deserves what they deserve.


371 posted on 03/12/2008 4:41:39 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: SwankyC
Your reasoning is so sound, I dont think anyone could argue with "LOL" and "crock". Your argument skills are beyond belief. I'm stunned!

Glad you're so easily impressed.

Most people require more.

372 posted on 03/12/2008 4:43:55 PM PDT by evad (.I.)
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To: najida
"Now, for the dance, as in a post earlier...the women who show up because their husbands ask them to show up for belly dance? Almost always fail....and the reason is they are there to make someone who doesn’t care for them love them (usually). To a woman, their self-esteem is in the pits and it breaks my heart."

I think your analysis is incorrect....completely. First, if a man doesn't care about his wife he won't bother to encourage her to dance. Trust me on this. He would just ignore her and leave.

Those whose husbands ask them to attend probably see that their wife is in a rut or is one of those non motivated types that would rather just sit and watch TV... so they may be trying to get them out and active again. You see them fail, because they are the type that would fail regardless of a man even being in the picture. They have issues. They may simply just be couch potato types or clinically depressed (which may not have ANYTHING to do with the man).

My best friend is married to a woman like that. He is the nicest guy in the world and he wants his wife happy. All she does is sit on her butt every day and play computer games or watch TV. She does nothing. He has asked her to go to dance classes and such.. not as a method to force her to meet his needs... but to snap her out of her homebound ways. And she fails... everytime. Not because of him, but because is a non motivated person who really needs some help.... but of course she refuses that as well.

Sorry honey, but you got this one all wrong. Almost every woman in there whose husband has asked them to attend... is trying to save them.
373 posted on 03/12/2008 4:45:41 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Southerngl

That’s the dumbest thing posted on this so far.


374 posted on 03/12/2008 4:49:15 PM PDT by Axenolith (Brother, Can you spare a tagline?)
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To: najida
You really are clueless. Everyone has some expectations of their spouse. It doesn't make them evil, shallow or any of the other pejoratives that you have been using.

Woman hold men to standards as well. That's life. Yes, those expectations have to be reasonable. And most would think that remaining healthy and fit to be very reasonable. Sorry that you don't but I'm getting the feeling you have some serious issues with the whole topic.
375 posted on 03/12/2008 4:50:29 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

I should know better...but...I have to ask. What exactly is ‘lets herself go?’ Ten pounds, twenty, thirty? Starting out brunette and ending up gray (but if she loved him she’d dye her hair)? Crows feet (honey, if ya loved me you would BoTox). Does a bad marriage equate to a bad manicure? There is morbid obesity and there is middle aged ‘spread.’ I just find your comments curious...


376 posted on 03/12/2008 4:54:07 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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To: StolarStorm
Nope,
I've been doing this a long time....
It's usually followed by “he want’s to know how soon I'll be able to dance for him.”

Not for a long time dear. "But he's getting impatient, he wants to see something." And I can tell she's extremely uncomfortable with the whole situation. He wants her to be an instant sex pot and what I teach, ain't sex pot stuff....sorry...it's a folk dance. And it's hard.

Or even creepier is the occasional letch who shows up with a check saying 'I want my wife to do this' (eye brow wiggle). Like what? You want her to be something she isn't? Maybe she'd rather take clogging...ask her! BTW, take your check down to the salon next door and use it to get those eyebrows trimmed.

Again, my gut reaction when a woman shows up to 'spice up her marriage' or 'my hubby wants me to do this' is to tell her to go take aerobics. Do something fun for herself....if she's not there because SHE loves the dance, she'll be miserable. And I'll be wasting my time.

377 posted on 03/12/2008 4:54:25 PM PDT by najida (Your advice is like offering a Twinkie to Julia Childs.)
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To: StolarStorm

Your friend’s wife sound like she is clinically depressed. Has he suggested medical treatment?


378 posted on 03/12/2008 4:56:36 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Yoi. And double yoi.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
My friend's wife is an example. She is in her lower 30's yet can't sit in a normal chair without breaking it. She broke one of mine!!!!

Sadly, her level of "letting her self go" is not uncommon in Houston (the second fattest city in the USA). They are EVERYWHERE here.

I can't even ride the bus without getting hit in the face with backside several times by people that can't fit in the aisle. Tell me that that isn't a problem????
379 posted on 03/12/2008 4:58:19 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: najida

Well, I agree if she doesn’t want to dance she should try something else. But there is nothing wrong about learning to dance sexy for your husband either.


380 posted on 03/12/2008 5:00:17 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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