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EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?
Debbieschlussel.com ^ | 11/13/2008 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 11/13/2008 12:08:24 PM PST by Danae

November 13, 2008 EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama's Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions

By Debbie Schlussel

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Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him?

It's either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama's official Selective Service registration for the draft. A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.

But the release of Obama's draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama's claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.

(Excerpt) Read more at debbieschlussel.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; breaking; certifigate; cicobama; fraud; obama; obamatruthfile; schlussel; selectiveservice
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To: Danae

obumpa


81 posted on 11/13/2008 10:47:14 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: BP2
Is there some way to verify if (808) 949-2317 (from the Selective Service form) was his grandmother's phone number in 1980?

I don't know about verifying it, other than trying the main libarary in Honolulu for old phone books. But my mother has the same phone number we had when I first learned my phone number, carrying it through our 1959 move to the house she still lives in. The only change, was the way it is written, it used to be IN6-DDDD (IN stood for INgersol, IIRC) now it's 466-DDDD, but those require the same button pushes or dial turns (yes, Mom still has a rotary phone, although she also has a wireless base station with 3 remotes, although she broke the charger/stand of one of them)

82 posted on 11/13/2008 11:29:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Danae
There's an interesting comment by Vicki551 after the article, a little long but worth the read IMHO:

"I have two points to make in regards to this matter of the alleged 'phony' Selective Service registration (I believe it is phony.)

First, if Barack were not a citizen, would he be required to register just because he lived here in the U. S.? That could explain why there was no authentic registration from 1980. He needs to cover his tracks by producing one now to lend credence to the lie that he's a citizen.

As for the second matter of the incomplete or questionable 'postmark', I can speak with some authority on the subject as I was a postal employee for over 30 years from before 1970. This mark is created by a 'round dater' stamp. Each one was assigned to a specific employee and included an identifying number unique to the employee whose 'round dater' was used. That way, a 'postmark' could be traced back to its origin if question of its authenticity ever came up. A 'postmark' was considered so reliable and sacrosanct that it could be used as evidence in court. This was an accountable item and was kept under lock and key at all times when it wasn't in the possession of the individual authorized to have and use it and it was never allowed outside of the Post Office. It is a federal offense to postmark an item with any date other than the date on which the item was actually stamped. (There was a famous case where there was a contest to guess the final score for some athletic contest, a Superbowl or World Series, and the letters with the guesses had to be 'postmarked' prior to the event taking place. A group of postal employees conspired together and used a 'round dater' to illegally postmark their entries after the game was completed so they knew the score. They were caught and convicted.)

Once the old 'Post Office Department' was reorganized into the new 'USPS'/U. S. Postal Service in the 1970's, new 'round daters' would have been issued. Apparently someone in the Chicago machine has been able to find one of these obsolete stampers that was spirited out of the system from years ago and probably uses it when the need arises. The missing '19' from the '1980' is probably because they don't have the full set of numbers to change out the entire date or they weren't familiar with the way the 'round dater' was used. Also, the employee's identifying number is missing that would show to whom this particular 'round dater' was assigned."

83 posted on 11/14/2008 3:29:44 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Zevonismymuse
I think this has a real sour grapes appearance. We lost the election. Many people are very ecstatic about this historic election. Calling to get a credit record for his recently deceased Grandmother seems so intrusive and rude.

Ordinarily I'd agree with your sentiments. Yes, the election is over and the people have spoken. In our system we HAVE to respect the results, or chaos ensues.

However.

In this particular case, candidate Obama and his campaign not only didn't proactively disclose information that might reflect badly on him/their candidate (like every other campaign in history - that is to be expected), he/it actively hid, denied, lied about, covered up, etc. nearly all information about Obama's past. This guy is the most mysterious candidate, soon to be POTUS, that I can remember in my lifetime - and history tells me that he's number one on the hit parade (and I'll gladly stand corrected if you or someone else has contrary information). Quite simply, he didn't tell us who he REALLY was and is, and did so for a reason - because he knows that there's something (or several somethings) there that would have caused us to reject him.

Guess what? This guy is going to be the President, barring some really, really strange circumstances. I as a citizen want to know who - EXACTLY - is being entrusted with so much power. Yes, the preferred time to know this is prior to an election, but we citizens have a right to know just the same. That we won't be able to do much about reducing his power (should the public decide that such is the correct thing to do) until 2010, and that we won't be able to promote him to the position of Ex-President until 2012, is immaterial. Note that one could always make the argument that the 2012 election process began on November 5, and that questions about one of the most likely candidates are being asked NOW.

His grandmother is gone. I hope that she had a fulfilling life and died as peacefully as possible. I give my condolences to her family, including Obama (despite my extreme distaste for his politics and his method of getting elected). However, having someone research whether Obama lied on his Selective Service application is a legitimate tool of his political opponents. Now that his grandmother is gone, her privacy CANNOT be violated, so that is another research avenue that has opened up - one that I would never even think about had she still been among the living.

Please keep in mind that our political opponents know no such boundaries. If you have doubts, look at how "Joe the Plumber" had his privacy ripped to shreds. He just asked a simple question, he wasn't running for anything. Obama is doing more, and he knew going into this profession that he'd be open to all kinds of scrutiny. Clearly he knew it - because he's done a masterful job of hiding that which is "inconvenient" to him. But he must be outed - the American people MUST know who he is and everything even remotely relevant to his qualifications to be President and to his judgment. Better late than never.

84 posted on 11/14/2008 6:49:17 AM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Ancesthntr

Also, from the comments at the DS site, it appears that “pajamasmedia” got played by the wonk.

One cannot be ^hired^ for an executive branch position but Opossum was never hired...he was always elected.


85 posted on 11/14/2008 8:07:05 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Ancesthntr
Please keep in mind that our political opponents know no such boundaries. If you have doubts, look at how "Joe the Plumber" had his privacy ripped to shreds.

And look at how we responded to such attacks; with righteous indignation. I hope Joe the Plumber takes full advantage of every legal remedy available to him.

I expect the opposition research to discreetly continue to investigate this very mysterious 'World President' but I think calls on political websites such as this to investigate his dead grandmother seem destine to backfire and do more harm to our cause in the long run.

86 posted on 11/14/2008 8:34:13 AM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: Madame Dufarge

Madame, BRILLIANT POST!

Thank you!

Danae


87 posted on 11/14/2008 8:54:53 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: Danae; Madame Dufarge
I, too spent many,many years in the Postal Service, albeit in several small offices. Never worked where we were issued our own round date stamp. At our offices, one dater was left on the counter for all to use. I have boxes and boxes of postal memorabilia, including special Inauguration Postmarks for both Bushes. I'll go through this stuff to find postmarks from late 70’s to late 80’s for comparison purposes.
88 posted on 11/14/2008 1:41:54 PM PST by upcountry miss
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To: upcountry miss

The man has been identified and has had security clearance.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/004431print.html

By the way, for those that don’t know it yet...Zero stayed for a few days with a very highly placed Person while in Pakistan at the behest of someone now living in South America.

I want to know how Zero had such a contact.


89 posted on 11/14/2008 6:51:04 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: BP2

Sometimes you can get that type of information from a city directory. In this case, it would be a 1980 Honolulu city directory, found at the public library in Honolulu, or perhaps at the state library in Hawaii, or perhaps the local historical or genealogical society. You never know what type of information is in them, they change over the years but I have found some phone numbers in them. Or a criss-cross directory, from the same sources.


90 posted on 11/14/2008 7:08:56 PM PST by daylilly
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To: Cheburashka

I had to get SSN numbers for my children so I could claim them about 1986-1988. I know I wasn’t happy about it and didn’d do it until the last minute to do my tax returns.


91 posted on 11/14/2008 7:14:22 PM PST by daylilly
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To: upcountry miss; Danae
Thanks, upcountry miss.

It'll be interesting to see what you come up with.

92 posted on 11/15/2008 2:18:49 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Here is something I didn't know. This is the reason for the need for forgery IF it is forged.

From the Selective Service website: "Employment in the Executive branch (and Post Office) is barred to any male who did not register between the ages of 18 - 25. " So both "natural born citizen" and Selective Service registration status should be documented for male presidential candidates.

93 posted on 11/15/2008 7:01:13 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Mouton
Who said you could go broke over estimating the intelligence of the average voter...give him a nobel prize.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. - H.L. Mencken
94 posted on 11/15/2008 7:43:04 AM PST by Apparatchik ("Hope" is not a course of action. "Change" is a not a policy.)
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To: RummyChick
Also this:

Q. Are illegal alien males required to register?

Yes. All immigrant alien males, other than those admitted on nonimmigrant visas, must register, whether or not they have a green card. (See also Who Must Register - Chart.)

95 posted on 11/15/2008 8:08:43 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: RummyChick

Back then, nobody got a social security # until he or she got a job.


96 posted on 11/15/2008 8:15:33 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: uncbob

Re: “It would have mattered about as much as Clinton’s draft Dodging”

Clinton dodged the draft legally, with college deferments.


97 posted on 11/15/2008 10:03:29 AM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Madame Dufarge
Operative words Chicago machine!

With those 2 words all other problems can be solved. Four years of Utopia!

98 posted on 11/15/2008 10:39:14 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: Danae

Of course he did, the name on the form is Obama but his real name (legally) at the time was Barry. Therefore he did not use his LEGAL name.


99 posted on 11/15/2008 11:02:43 AM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: originalbuckeye

Whoppers:
-I never heard those sermons.
-Ayers is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.
Any more to add to the list?


100 posted on 11/15/2008 11:58:32 AM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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