Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[danamco]

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[danamco]

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[TheCipher]

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[rxsid]

Ping.

Recent WND story that references this thread:

"The Obama forgers who 'punked birthers'
Radical supporters admitted they produced fraudulent documents

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The Bomford fraud

On Aug. 2, 2009, WND reported that eligibility lawyer Orly Taitz had made public what became known as the "Bomford" birth certificate, seen here as Exhibit 1, by filing a motion in federal court to determine the document's authenticity.

Taitz's filing of the Bomford birth certificate caused such a stir that a thread discussing the document on Free Republic drew more than 10,000 postings. [Edit: THIS Thread].

On Aug. 4, 2009, Joseph Farah wrote an editorial expressing strong suspicions the document was not authentic.

That same day, Internet bloggers revealed that the Bomford birth certificate had been forged from an authentic "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth" issued in 1964 to an Australian citizen, David Jeffrey Bomford, born April 10, 1959, at Thebarton Community Hospital, in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. The document is seen here as Exhibit 2.

The forgers had found the document on a genealogy website set up by the Bomford family, and the forgery derived a look of authenticity because in August 1961, the month of Obama's birth, Kenya was in the Commonwealth of Great Britain. The modified document conveyed a surface look of credibility using the Australian birth certificate as a template.

Culprits come forward

Nearly a year later, a leftist Internet blogger presenting himself under the username "PJ Foggy" revealed that he had played a major role in the Bomford birth certificate forgery, as seen in Exhibit 3, a post on a forum created by Ed Hale in conjunction with Plains Radio.

What PJ Foggy makes clear in this Internet blog post from July 23, 2010, was that he was a messenger, not the creator of the fraudulent document. He mailed the document to Neil Sankey, an investigator for Orly Taitz, some time in July 2009.

Foggy takes delight in realizing that Taitz proceeded to file the document in federal court, even though she never had the original document in hand.

The implication seems to be that a professional document authenticator would have been reluctant to proceed on an copy of an electronic document, without first having subjected the original to forensic examination to determine its authenticity.

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"Excerpted. Complete story, here: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=310949

[Fractal Trader]

As I recall, there were two similar documents that came out. We Freepers debunked the Bomford document quite readily. As I recall, it was generated using a very expensive photo manipulation program.

However, there was the Lavender document, that was similar in composition, as I recall. Despite the claims from the left that EF Lavender was really a soap, it represented a real person who was in the position of authority in Kenya during the relevant time period.

Orly MAY HAVE submitted the Bomford BC, but I’m not so sure about that. To the best of my knowledge, she did submit the Lavender document.

Now that the “forgers” have played their role, maybe they would like to give an official opinion on the new Obama BC? Orly had a twenty plus page document from a recognized document expert in her latest filings. Who’s punking whom?

[Red Steel]

Here's the guy, "KenyanBCPunkster" who said he created that forgery and who was invited here to troll on behalf of super OBot troll Ender Wiggins, aka Koyaan.

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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible

Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:08:47 PM · 3,001 of 3,700
KenyanBCPunkster to Fred Nerks

Of course it is...the Kenya BC came up again, they want to divert attention from it, by re-introducing the Bomford document.

I didn't re-introduce the Bomford document. I was specifically asked by several here what the source was.

Forget about the Bomford document. Here's the first "prototype" I did just to get an idea of how things would look and how to do the seal and "aging" before making the final version.

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And the rest of his postings.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:kenyanbcpunkster/index?more=68302333

[rxsid]

Ping!

Intriguing...but still an unnamed source.

"Exclusive: Interviewee: Obama Born in Kenya, Birth Records are in the Possession of Kenyan Prime Minister
PERSON WHOSE COMPANY DOES BUSINESS IN KENYA: “WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION”

(Jul. 19, 2011) — Recently The Post & Email was contacted by someone who stated that he was told by very reliable business contacts within his company that they were provided information before the 2008 presidential election that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Mombasa, Kenya. The interviewee stated that his coworkers were told by an assistant to an under-secretary within the Kenyan government that Obama’s birth record existed in Kenya, and that the information was not difficult at the time to obtain.

The following is our interview with the individual:

MRS. RONDEAU: Thank you for contacting us regarding the knowledge which you said you have that Obama II was definitely born in Mombasa, Kenya. How did you learn that information?

INTERVIEWEE: Actually, it was prior to the presidential election when I had conversations with Atty. Philip Berg. He wanted to know if there was any way to find out if a certified copy of Obama’s Kenyan birth record could be obtained from any hospital in Kenya. We do a lot of business in that country and work very closely with the various ministries there as well as very high officials in the government, but the timing was such that the record had already been taken by Raila Odinga, the current prime minister of the country. I suppose if we had gone in there a month or so earlier, it might have still been possible for us to get it. It might still be possible to get it, but it would cost a lot of money and would be very, very difficult.

MRS. RONDEAU: Is there a way that you can be sure that Raila Odinga himself took personal custody of that birth record?

INTERVIEWEE: As with any third-world country, when the prime minister or any major minister in the country or any president issues an edict or an order, no under-minister is going to risk his job or even his life unless there’s a lot of money on the line where they could leave the country and not go back.

MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think someone would go on the line for 1,000,000 or 2,000,000 American dollars, or any amount?

INTERVIEWEE: Yes, the ministers would, yes, but Raila Odinga is a very rich man, so to go to him would probably would not be the best thing.

MRS. RONDEAU: When your contacts found this out, were they working with Dr. Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily? He has reported that many birth records within a given time frame, which included 1961, were found to have been missing and that a government minister had found it out and launched an investigation. Were your contacts involved at all with that, to your knowledge?

INTERVIEWEE: No, not at all.

MRS. RONDEAU: Have you looked at the alleged birth certificate that Mr. Lucas Smith has put out on the internet?

INTERVIEWEE: Yes. I recall that Orly Taitz had submitted it to Judge David O. Carter in her lawsuit. That was totally bogus and obviously fraudulent because Kenya was a country that was under British rule for many years, and when Obama was born, information on his birth record would have been given in metric measurements: height, weight, etc. The document I have seen has it in inches and pounds, so it’s totally fraudulent.

MRS. RONDEAU: If your sources told you accurately that Raila Odinga or someone deep within the Kenyan government took custody of the document, then it would seem as if even a copy would not have been available at the hospital as Mr. Smith has claimed.

INTERVIEWEE: No, it would not. I know for a fact that Raila Odinga took it. I had this conversation with someone as to what it would take to be able to actually get access to the information, but you have to ask yourself, “Is it worth it to somebody, maybe?” Then at the end of the day, is there unique information that would be required for someone to risk his life to obtain? Is it possible to get a copy of it? So when I had this conversation, the people with whom I spoke felt that unless you could actually get the genuine, certified birth record, a copy would present problems.

MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think government officials in our government such as Eric Holder, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, and even the other members of the U.S. Supreme Court know that Obama was born in Kenya?

INTERVIEWEE: That would be very speculative. I know Orly Taitz has been working hard to get to the truth, and I hope she succeeds. She’s very persistent. Maybe a federal judge will order that Obama’s records be opened. I have been following Orly’s work, and I hope a judge somewhere does the right thing."

http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/07/19/exclusive-interviewee-obama-born-in-kenya-birth-records-are-in-the-possession-of-kenyan-prime-minister/

[patlin]

I already called BS on this. When a reporter asks a question in a way as to attain a specific answer they are looking for, as this one did, there is no credibility in the report.

[Fred Nerks]

check your freepmail

[bgill]

He has reported that many birth records within a given time frame, which included 1961, were found to have been missing and that a government minister had found it out and launched an investigation.

That matches very closely to what I remember from back in 2009 (?) about a Mombassa records clerk stating that someone/s had come in to look at the birth book for that period and when they left it was obvious that pages had been rearranged or missing.

[danamco]

That was totally bogus and obviously fraudulent because Kenya was a country that was under British rule for many years, and when Obama was born, information on his birth record would have been given in metric measurements: height, weight, etc. The document I have seen has it in inches and pounds, so it’s totally fraudulent.

I was often in the U.K. in the sixties and cannot recall they used metric systems???

[null and void]

The UK started metric conversion in 1965.

[danamco]

More African claims of the non-documented alien and p-Resident of the Whit-Hut!!!

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/07/world-guides-website-claims-obama-born.html

[danamco]

Britten conversed (partially) to metric system 1965 which makes Lucas Smith’s copy of the Kenyan b.c. possible to be genuine!

When in U.K. 60/70ies they still used pounds, shillings, pence and other older antiquate measurements like stones, etc!!

Sweden converted to right hand traffic in 1967 while they still drive to the left in U.K.!!!

[danamco]

Making Lucas Smith more believable!!!

[mo]

“Hillary’s been sitting on the original? “

She and Bill aren’t sitting on anything...but an overseas bank account somewhere into which ‘Bammy makes sure to place a monthly deposit.

[danamco]

Looks like the Soetoro’s NBC issue has fallen off the F.R. cliff!!!

Found this on facebook. Butter and Danae do you have any comment to this???:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/ron-polland/debunking-doug-vogts-report-part-i-the-seal-of-disapproval/227157823989760

[Danae]

Hum.

First, I don’t trust Polarik as far as I can throw him.

However, that does not necessarily mean he is wrong on this. He seems to be suggesting that the seal on Oblidiot’s Hawaii Long Form is that of the Director of HDOH, and not the official seal of the state of Hawaii used for certifying COLB’s generated in the office.

If that is the case then what Oblidiot produced isn’t an official record of birth.

I might be misinterpreting him here, but that is what I read out of it.

Did I mention I don’t trust Polarik? I also do not like him. So I am biased and likely not so good a person to ask.

[danamco]

I knew that dear and that’s why I asked you and waiting for butter’s!!!

[danamco]

Isn’t today that Health Director Loretta J. Fuddy, is being subpenaed to show the real “birth certificate:(?)???