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If healthcare passes the socialist coup d'etat has advanced beyond the point of no return!
Dec 19, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/19/2009 11:28:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Let's face it FRiends, if the unconstitutional healthcare bill passes, the socialist coup d'etat will have advanced well beyond the point of no return!

There is nothing in the constitution that authorizes this illegal federal power-grab and plenty that forbids it. If the Obama/Reid/Pelosi Marxist attempted coup pulls this off without the people resisting to the hilt, then they'll have no restrictions whatsoever on implementing the rest of their Liberty killing Marxist agenda. America will be no more.

The whole idea of our constitution is to severely restrict the federal government to only its dozen and a half expressly listed enumerated powers and to guarantee and protect our unalienable individual rights as well as our sovereign states rights and republican form of government.

The constitution has not failed, the people have. When the government will not willingly restrain itself within its legal bounds, then its the duty of the people to enforce the constitution and restrain the government.

The constitution does not define our rights, it defines the limits on government. Our rights are granted by God not government, and government cannot take them away. Our government was established by and for us and was granted by us certain limited powers and only those limited powers. Our government serves at our pleasure to defend our nation and our rights. It does not RULE over us.

Obama is not a dictator. Reid, Pelosi, et al, are not our rulers. When they overstep their bounds to the degree they have, then they MUST be brought back down to reality.

It's time to jerk their constitutional chains taut!

It's time for US to enforce our Constitution and invoke our Bill of Rights!!

It's time to assemble for duty, for Liberty!!


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To: Outlaw Woman
holy crap..you asked I told you I didn't post what your questioning......get a grip woman
121 posted on 12/19/2009 12:49:38 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: wagglebee
You want some ideas besides seccesion and Civil War?

What about a bona fide tax revolt? Get the IRS out of your life.

One might railroaded into jail like martryed patriot, Irwin Schiff or one might be acquitted such as Atty. Cryer: Local Attorney acquitted of federal income tax charges

One can say what I'm proposing is risky and perhaps it is; however, it is a step or two below secession and Civil War (and in such a case "the Messiah" will be a reverse Lincoln fighting to put us into slavery).

Did someone ask for suggestions short of violence? I'm giving you one.

122 posted on 12/19/2009 12:49:51 PM PST by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Jim Robinson

The goal of the Communists was to take over complete con trol of one of our Political parties. They have met that goal.The Communists control the Democrat Party. Our mission is to take control of the Republican Party. At least we would have a fighting chance. We have to purge the RINOS and do battle with the Beast.


123 posted on 12/19/2009 12:49:55 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Of course Obamacare is unconstitutional but although a majority of the American people don't want it, the 'general public' seems too apathetic to really fight this and it's obvious that conservatives alone simply can't defeat it. The relative hand-full of conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives and the Senate are no match for the Democrat majority that play political hardball with their members and shut Republicans out of any substantive debate on this terrible legislation.

Obamacare is clearly intended to cement governmental control over once-free Americans lives at a terrible financial cost that will bankrupt the country, which is the likely intent, truth be known. We can only hope and pray that it will be overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that happening, especially if Obama gets to appoint one or more new Justices, who will be solid leftists, no doubt.

Tragically, years of government-run schools, depriving students of any real knowledge of America's greatness, material accomplishments and defeat of various global tyrannies have harvested a nation of apolitical citizens, who pay little attention to Washington politics and assume that nothing politicians do will change their lives in any meaningful way. The young Americans who attend universities are relentlessly brainwashed and intimidated into accepting and, eventually, inculcating socialist, anti-American beliefs pounded into them by leftist professors and textbooks slanted against American exceptionalism.

The media is mostly controlled by leftists that routinely lie or just ignore anything that doesn't fit the leftist agenda. Examples are plentiful, including the absence of news coverage about 'ClimateGate', the relentless trashing of former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and the truth about Obamacare. Sure, Fox News and conservative talk radio as well as conservative websites like FR do a good job in getting the truth out but they can't compare to the influence the so-called 'mainstream media' have on public opinion. I wish it were otherwise.

We all know that Hollywood is a sea of cookie-cutter leftists. Multi-millionaire actors and other show-biz folk who live like kings while endorsing policies that would destroy other Americans ability to seek and obtain even a fraction of what the Hollywood 'elite' - a contradiction in terms, I admit - have in abundance. They are staunchly pro abortion and love their drugs but spew vicious attacks against conservatives such as Sarah Palin, just because she's a traditional wife and mother who worked hard, rose to the governorship of Alaska and holds conservative i.e. moral values.

So, a generally apathetic American public will sit back and grumble (some will cheer) while the Democrat thugs in congress and the White House ram supposed health care 'reform' down our collective throats. The bill will be instantly challenged in the courts and many Americans will be outraged at this crass exercise of political power but the law will still be on the books and we're stuck with Comrade Obama for 3 more years.

Frankly, while I once held out some hope that this bill would ultimately fail, I now cede that it will very likely pass. After all, Obama's ego depends on it.

I also believe that Democrats will lose control of congress in the 2010 elections, even with the massive voter fraud now being planned by the Obama administration, with the able assistance of SEIU, ACORN, the New Black Panthers and other leftist criminals. I believe that a majority of Americans will be angry enough to get off their duffs and vote against Democrats in the 2010 election.

Unless the GOP rids itself of the neo-cons and so-called 'moderates' exemplified by Senator John McCain and his 'my good friend' attitude toward the Democrats that would gladly turn America into a banana republic and destroy people like McCain, who whines about the lack of 'comity' in the senate, like some disappointed child that just discovered Santa Claus isn't real, a Republican majority in congress won't change very much. To put it another way: we'll still be screwed.

Frankly, I don't see conservatives overthrowing the current GOP establishment anytime soon. When political writers claim that Mitt Romney is the 'compromise' choice for Republicans, we're likely doomed. Yes, leftist political pundits always try to prop up weak RINOs that they know can't beat a Democrat but I simply don't see a strong, conservative Republican leader coming forward now, when they're needed most. I'm a big fan of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin but I'm beginning to think she may not really be interested in being the 2012 Republican candidate for president. Our loss. Representative Michele Bachmann is also a shining star in the Republican party but I don't see her being the conservative leader we need, today. I like Michael Steele but let's face it, he isn't a real force on the national scene. Few Americans even know who Steel is, much less what the GOP supposedly represents. That shouldn't be, but sadly, it is.

Unless the Republican party can divest itself of 'go-along-get-along' leaders, even a GOP 'takeover' of congress in the 2010 elections won't change our destructive political course. We'll all go-along-to-get-along into a socialist nightmare and the America we know and love will be no more. Should that sad day arrive - and it's definitely close at hand - people will rightly ask "How did this happen?" The answer will be: "you let it happen". You voted for a slogan and a smile, ignored what was happening in Washington, D.C. then sat back and waited for your 'free health care' to kick in. Instead, you got socialism, good and hard. Too late now. America is over. Let me see your papers, Comrade.

Of course, much could happen in the next year and I could be wrong about all of this. I hope I am, I really do.

124 posted on 12/19/2009 12:50:13 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: wagglebee; Jim Robinson

Ditto!


125 posted on 12/19/2009 12:51:14 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: IronJack

Amen


126 posted on 12/19/2009 12:51:39 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

It may be that the strongest point of we the people will be that our “elected representatives” passed a law they didn’t read.

Does that kind of evidence stand up in courts? Why should it n Congress?

It seems to me to invalidate the law.


127 posted on 12/19/2009 12:52:00 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: Jim Robinson
so what's the plan Jim???

i am willing to go all in....feel free to call me....

FREEDOM !!!!!!

128 posted on 12/19/2009 12:52:15 PM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Nachum; mojitojoe; F15Eagle; ~Kim4VRWC's~; MestaMachine; HollyB; NoObamaFightForConservatives; ...

Ping


129 posted on 12/19/2009 12:52:42 PM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: Scutter

That is foolish. Instead of voting for a moderate the logic
is to vote in Marxism? Huh?

Let’s get it straight. The people who voted for Zer0, Al Franken, Ben Nelson, B.Boxer et. el. are to blame.

There was enough information available to the American
people to make an informed decision. They did’nt.

America voted for change. It’s the stupid and vacuous who
tip the balance.


130 posted on 12/19/2009 12:53:57 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: onyx; Saoirise

“I just need to decide what to wear.”

LOL.:)


131 posted on 12/19/2009 12:54:57 PM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: Temujinshordes
Then it is a tragedy that you believe that a majority of the American people have no respect for the constitution.

Are you really that naive? The majority of Americans have never read the Constitution, especially those under the age of 40. And, no, I don't believe that even a majority of those who have read it respect it. You've got people who talk about the First Amendment guaranteeing "separation of church and state." No such animal.

Or how about "a well regulated militia?" That's where the enemy stops reading the Second Amendment.

"The right to privacy." Often invoked in the abortion debate by the left. It doesn't exist in the Constitution.

Oh, and that pesky old Tenth Amendment? That's states rights, don't you see? The left calls that an excuse for us to go back to owning slaves and re-fighting the Civil War.

I could go on and on.

I ask again...are you really that naive?

132 posted on 12/19/2009 12:55:58 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Jim Robinson

Looking for ideas bump.


133 posted on 12/19/2009 12:58:14 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Jim Robinson

The marxists have penetrated and are raping the America we love right this very minute. They are in full ecstasy.

We must now punish them as is fitting for the violent crime they are currently carrying out.

The vast majority of the American people agree.


134 posted on 12/19/2009 12:58:36 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: whitedog57

“They will start jailing and killing people like us.”

We’re fully aware of this, whitedog57. Not only that, but a lot of us know we’re going to die for Jesus Christ, just as the Christians of the first century did. Why worry about the Communists when the world hates us?

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.
25: He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.
26: If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. “ - John 12:24


135 posted on 12/19/2009 12:58:36 PM PST by RoadTest (Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3)
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To: Outlaw Woman
“Have you EVER seen anything OVERTURNED?”

Mostly true. However the bankrupting welfare entitlement was revoked with the signature of a Democrat president.

Also, the “goodies” in the health bill don't really begin to arrive until 2014, so there is time for repeal of the worst parts before the public gets hooked. Repeal wouldn't be felt in the pocketbook because it wouldn't be there yet. Also this bill has a mandate requiring purchase of plans that will be far more expensive that people have been led to believe. Michael Moore and the “Obama’s Stash” crowd have been led to believe healthcare would be “free” as it supposedly is in the UK or Cuba (Ha!).

136 posted on 12/19/2009 1:02:22 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: beejaa

AMEN to your post!!!!!


137 posted on 12/19/2009 1:02:50 PM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: 444Flyer

:)


138 posted on 12/19/2009 1:03:09 PM PST by onyx
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To: Jim Robinson

“It’s time to jerk their constitutional chains taut! It’s time for US to enforce our Constitution and invoke our Bill of Rights!! It’s time to assemble for duty, for Liberty!!”

We are beyond that now, Jim. I firmly believe it’s going to take another civil war to wrest our country back from the Maoists.

When that war begins, I will be first in line to take up arms. I’d rather die than live in 0bama/Ried/Pelosi’s Maoist utopia.


139 posted on 12/19/2009 1:09:24 PM PST by PawtucketPatriot71 (Emanuel and Axlerod- The new generations Haldeman and Ehlichman)
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To: Jim Robinson
Let's talk about a smart plan to create a new nation or several new independent nations in old America rather than seethe aimlessly.

One state needs to declare independence and it can't be a landlocked state. One plan would be for millions of young US conservatives to move to the state of Washington and Canadian conservatives can do likewise with British Columbia. This is to take control of a region by sheer numbers, our own Aztlan plan.

This nation of Alaska/Washington/BC can expand east and south and transport its liberals to the east coast and Mexico as it expands.

140 posted on 12/19/2009 1:12:06 PM PST by Perchant
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