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Posted on 12/18/2010 12:48:49 PM PST by Jess KittingEdited on 12/18/2010 1:10:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
WASHINGTON -- In a landmark vote, the Senate on Saturday ended the Clinton-era ban on gays serving openly in the military, marking a major triumph for President Obama, liberals and the gay community.
The final vote to end the Pentagon's 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" policy was 65-31, drawing support from eight Republicans.
The bill now goes to the White House for Obama's signature. He is expected to sign the bill into law next week, a senior White House aide told Fox News.
With a conservative as president in 2013, and a GOP controlled Senate, we can try to repeal the repeal.
Job number one is getting more TRUE conservatives elected.
This is a surprise? Brown is doing what he believes he needs to do to get reelected. Voting "Yes" may work against him in the Republican primary but he's obviously calculated that it will cause him less trouble than voting "No" on this issue would in the main election, and I suspect he's right.
I believe this is the text of the bill that was voted on...
It appears that it’s actually about “COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A REPEAL OF 10 U.S.C. 654.” (Policy concerning homosexuality in the armed forces)...
TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART II > CHAPTER 37 > § 654
What a horrible Christmas the commies have wreaked upon us!!
“Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies” is not going to win any wars!!!!
You are 100% correct, and I am sure there are even people here on Free Republic who have no idea what is about to transpire.
I served 21 years as an Air Force officer and pilot, and worked several years after that as a defense contractor with both DoD civilians, other contractors, and active duty personnel.
Here is what is going to happen:
1. There will be a massive new "training" program that all active duty, DoD civilians, and DoD contractors will have to undergo regarding this new "policy." If the "Equal Opportunity Training" the military has forced down people's throats in the past is an accurate indicator (and it is), then this new "training" will be authoritative, dictatorial, and corrupt. Anyone refusing the training, or not "head nodding" during its propaganda sessions will be called out and persecuted for not towing the line.
2. There will be massive "payback" by many homosexuals in any sort of leadership or supervisory position in the military and the Dept of Defense. They will be strutting like peacocks, and looking to retaliate against anyone they feel has "oppressed" them in the past.
3. The above two events will lead, inevitably, towards incredible persecution of one group: Christians. Any believing Christian who dares speak the truth about what God Himself calls this terrible sin (an abomination) will be hunted down, persecuted, and destroyed.
4. At a time when the military is getting is lowest pay raise in 50 years, retired military have not received a cost of living increase for the second year in a row, and DoD civilians are getting their pay frozen for 2 years - millions will now be spent for homosexual "partners" housing, health care, dental care, insurance, and increased pay increments for dependents (which is meant for families with children).
5. Now that this perversion is officially endorsed, every other perversion (incest, bestiality, pedophilia) will come out of the "closet" and demand recognition and applause.
Finally, this nation will bring the wrath of the Almighty God upon us. This unhappy truth will become manifest.
Our great military will be destroyed with the stroke of Obama's pen. Satan must be laughing tonight.
"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity."
Romans 1: 26-28
From a review of the report that shows it will degrade the military significantly:
“So, while disputing the very fact that homosexuality is an identity at all and is instead a behavior, even when granting that identity argument, it still shows an increased risk of other associated mental health problems. Why would anyone wish to increase the participation of homosexuals in the military? The repeal isnt for the existing members of the service who suffer from same sex attraction. They are already serving. If they feel less included, well thats too bad. They understand the culture in which they operate and have adapted to function. They chose to contribute to the military. They have their disorder under control or at least hidden. By changing the military culture to endorse the disorder, the promoters of gays in the military radically risk chaos in the function of our armed services. The military has a standard of good order and discipline. Their mission involves life and death and war. Anything that degrades that mission is not a positive development, and open service by homosexuals degrades that mission.
So if it isnt about the military, then why the push by those with the disorder and their supporters for repeal? Why the need to demand that the military allow those with same sex attraction disorder serve openly? It is because there is another agenda operating. This report, and the effort, has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with the promotion of the disorder across society.
The gay lobby has tied their promotion of their disorder to the Civil Rights movement. They are using the military to follow that agenda. The effort is to tie their push for the acceptance and active promotion of homosexuality to the desegregation of the military in 1948. The two cannot be equated as homosexuality is a behavior and being black is an identity. The moral component is also lacking if it can be considered at all in an age when all things moral are discouraged, disparaged, and marginalized.
This tactic is done without any concern as to how the military is affected. They couldnt care less. This is about normalizing and promotion of homosexuality and the military is a tool to do this. If the military is altered to normalize this disorder, then there is little defense for marriage, religious objection, and individual states complaints. The push is all about the promotion of homosexuality in the greater society and nothing about the military or its mission. If a person wants to serve in the military it is because they wish to join the service and serve. They should want to contribute, not have the military serve them. What selfishness! What a degrading effect on the services!
Thats a pretty strong motive by a group with an agenda to be completely ignored by the press. On any story when a company or government entity puts out a report, shouldnt the press question whether to take the report at face value? Or is there some reason for the report? Shouldnt they examine the people writing the report to see if there is an ulterior motive? If the report itself is simply a lever to accomplish an agenda that is destructive, shouldnt the press look into who is doing the destruction and why?”
This will be used to hammer gay marriage nationwide and invalidate any state opposition. That’s the purpose. That’s the goal.
I think the pro-hetero comments of General Peter Pace and his subsequent firing was the canary in the coal mine, so to speak.
I can only hope this will have the most dramatically unfavorable unintended consequences (to the leftie enablers) of any decision ever made in the history of civilian-controlled military.
This is the only way I can possibly find any peace in the aftermath of this. In a real crappy mood for Christmas Eve week otherwise.
You are correct. I went off half cocked. Also a hellofalot of individuals on this forum did also.
“I cannot even pray to God to save this once great country anymore, ...”
Then pray HE will soon strike down our elected leaders, DEAD!
Here is a suggestion:
“Our Father, who art in Heaven... Deliver us from evil... We ask that Your Might Hand raise up just servants, strong in arms, so they may swiftly strike down those unrepentant reprobate souls, whom have perverted Your Law and corrupted this land. AMEN”
YES! And concomitantly putting the FEAR into the remaining RINOs, so they stop playing footsie with the Dems and start toeing the line. 2012 seems like along way off, but God willing it will come a lot quicker than these corrupt pols anticipate, and the worst of the bunch will get the BOOT!
We The People must launch an all-out campaign to get each of them voted out including her highness cry-baby Lisa who won’t be up for six years. Our fathers and grandfathers spent 8 long years defending our freedom during WWII and the Korean War. The least we can do is stay the course for 6 years until we can get these vermin out.
it’s ruined my Christmas for sure.
I don’;t trust the GOP or talk radio to actually grow some balls and tell the public what the homosexual agenda is doing, hopefully I am proved wrong.
The DoD report on the survey results:
I thank GOD I had the sense to retire after 30 years, while George Bush was POTUS.....and before there was a Marxist in the white house, and before there became a new meaning to the wartime song.......”..........We’ll ALL be gay....when Johnny comes marching home”
I WEEP for my nation..and I SPIT on the FOOLS in the Pentagon that support this idiotic social experiment!
We have met the enemy and it is CONGRESS!!!!!
GOD help and protect our men and women in harms way......and GOD help America! AMEN
Fearing God, I likewise trust Him. A similar trust held me to country for my whole life, until today. It seemed important once to have served in the American military, even when the elites turned on it, forcing it to yield the field to an enemy it knew it had defeated. Though that trust as of today no longer exists. It has been broken on the bough of political correctness, never to be the same again.
One once joined the military and shared an elan, an esprit de corps that unified the American war fighter.
I wouldn´t join from this day forward and hence lend myself to the ultimately destructive ends of a homosexually imposed death cult. And I would advise others along similar lines.
Is this a country even worth defending anymore?
In anticipation of the repeal of Dont Ask, Dont Tell, in 2007, the Pentagon prepared a list of new or reinterpreted nomenclature and practices familiar to many older veterans. The gay EM who supplied Wikileaks sent us a copy just before his arrest. Some of the more interesting items are below.
All marching commands ending in March will now end in either MINCE or SWISH, at the option of the individual issuing the command;
The command Right dress right, will be replaced with Right strapless evening gown, allrighty;
Due to the distinct possibility that it may be misinterpreted, the command To the Rear March will be replaced with OK, Fellas, Turn Around;
Marching cadences employing Jodie will now replace that archaic appellation with the more metro-sexually appropriate Brucie:
The humorous but now out-dated phrase Drop your c**ks and grab your socks is to be replaced with Drop your c**ks and grab the fellas over there;
A Junk on the bunk inspection will now allow that a soldiers junk actually be displayed on his bunk;
If it will not interfere with his duties, a Latrine Queen may wear a pair of high heel pumps if they are OD in color;
The rank of Private will be replaced with Newby.
For those still smoking, as it could lead to serious and unit cohesion break-down, the phrase Field strip that butt will no longer be used.
As we did deeper into the documents we were provided, we will add other changes.
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Let’s hope those who prance around as such will meet an untimely death on the battle field... by friendly fire. I would not hesitate to shoot one of these freaks, if he were making problems in my unit.
Article I, section 8, "Congress shall have the power to...make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces."
I would say this is one of the rare examples of Congress exercising an enumerated power.
You are correct there are not that many gays in the military, but the problem is that this is not about being openly gay. This was a route used to get into all other sorts of social acceptance and special treatment based on a sexual act.
60%+ of the country may know a gay person or have a gay family member. They see only the “PC” version of the gay lifestyle. When you look behind the curtain you will see a lifestyle that is revolting and anti-social, and that is not even the sex part. They are not right mentally!
Will it effect unit cohesion, hell yeah! Gays will naturally gravitate to eachother, which will cause problems because no matter what anyone says will cause sexual tensions. Does anyone think intimate relationships within a platoon or company will not have an effect?
I was just talking with my son about this, his response was, there ain’t no way an openly gay guy would be able to be part of our company. We would ALL be chaptered out!
This will not be the end of it. They gay lobby will push for hate speak, discrimination, bullying, special board for complaints, special “re-education”, quotas for promotion, housing, benefits, etc. From there it will go full bore for gay marriage. How can we be equal and have gay men and women DIE for our country yet not allow them to marry??????
This BS was just their foot in the door to a nightmare!!!
Americas fighters are tired, they've been fighting for a decade and now they have a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs who tells them to shut up and get out if they don't like his pc bs. Oyvey.
I just want to say one other thing about the 60% of civilians supporting this........I guarantee that yesterday most of those 60% were attending their office Christmas Party, shopping, were out to dinner or sitting in their safe homes. My son spent yesterday filling out paperwork on who will be his Pall Bearers at his funeral and who will escort his body back along with delivering his possessions to us. At 20 these are things he has to think about and these idiots in our Government are more worried if Tom gets to bring Steve to a freaking picnic!!!
In case you didn’t see my earlier post to you, I’ll make your zot a 7 day suspension. If or when you return, if you continue pushing any part of the homosexual or RINO agenda, we’ll make it a permanent zot.
I am so sick to death of gays I can’t tell you. Homosexuality is a mental disorder. All the BS talk and portrayal that is force fed us is a lie. I have seen it first hand. Bradley Manning......he is NOT an anomaly, he is the norm.
bye bye effective fighting force
LMAO -so it is written? By you?
There is a clue is your statement that you overlook. It is a policy...
I have many gay friends (although, personally, I believe their “lifestyle choice” is the result of many bizarre understandings of marriage and heterosexuality in our culture) and I honestly don’t care what they do. And I would suspect most Americans don’t care about what their neighbors are up to at night - and in fact, most never have cared. We have other things to do.
But the problem is that once this becomes something engraved in federal law, that means special accomodations have to be provided for gays, they have to be specially protected (and promoted) as “minorities,” and they will form a pressure group within the military.
Also, in practice, it means that when a gay commanding officer harrasses a subordinate, this will be overlooked. A male commanding officer harrassing a female enlisted person would be penalized; but a male commanding officer harrassing a male enlisted person will be part of a protected caste.
Gays form their own clique anywhere they go, and the same will be true in the military.
JimRob and some others were talking about that over here... (see comments 235,247,276,298,301).
You made a special visit here after many months to relish the homosexual sex victory for orifice justice huh?
“Are you going to advocate a ban on homosexual behavior in the military?”
Yes, on par with adultery, pedophilia, bestiality, promiscuity. None of those are viewed favorably in the military, nor are there any “pride” groups for any of these sins.
“Oh well - so what I guess - as long as they keep the the damage control fittings greased and know how to fight a shipboard fire...they can f__k each other in the _ss all they want I suppose.
Thank goodness Im retired....:-)”
Unfortunately many of us are NOT retired and will be strung up when we oppose this abomination. I’m disheartened by your “so what” response.
“I wont keep my mouth shut. Whats true is true and I wont be forced to accept a lie.
But then doesnt that make it truetheyve only transferred DADT, they didnt repeal anything.
I have such a headache thinking about all this craziness I forget which military big-wig said: if any serving have a problem with gays openly serving, they best find a new job. (the gist of it anyhow)
So, what good have these congress-critters doneeven in their twisted social justice minds? Theyve just switched who is to be forced to keep their mouth shutdeny their lifestyle/beliefsif they want to serve.
Its a bunch of convoluted madness, in my eyes.”
The fool that said anyone who doesn’t like open homosexuality can just get out, that was Adm. Mullen. I am extremely disappointed and heartbroken. Dear Holy Father, come quickly!
I would prefer military government to the corrupt and pretentious “free” government we now suffer under. At least the military would jail—or otherwise eliminate—the reprobates that are causing our decline. Bring it on. I will support it emphatically!
I would actively assist the imposition of military discipline on this country, since far too many Americans are lazy jackasses, who want a free ride at the expense of others. WORK OR DIE! That should be the national motto!
America is in serious short supply of discipline. Military rule would fix our problems in a heartbeat: WORK OR DIE! Real simple. The military would declare open season on the liberal thieves, as a practical matter. “Imagine no more liberals ... it’s easy, if you try... No Reid or Pelosi... We’ll send them off to die”
Second target on the agenda—after the military jails the 545 corrupt A-holes now occupying office...
The elimination of the thousands of useless bureaucrats... and after them, the lawyers, judges and university professors will all be shown the meaning of “manual labor”
Then we could eliminate the media, which really needs to go the way of the dinosaur. They are as useless as tits on a bull. We have internet, we do not need the sh*thead primadonnas of the press
Military government? Bring it on. I can hardly wait!
Is the little tyke up to his tricks again? He’s left the building.
I guess Congress is too stupid to learn from the Catholic Church debacle with gay pedophile priests.
How long would you support it if it was decided that you are one of troublemakers?
That means what happens next is important. If the sodomy ban stays, then homosexuality activity among service members is still forbidden.
I will not mince my words: The only thing that is going to save America is when Americans get the balls to off these bastards, in plain English.
The other things you posted are a waste of time and effort.
You want this crap to stop? Them be willing to make these pricks assume room temperature... and get on with THAT exercise.
Anything else is whistling in the wind and a waste of effort. This country is a s good as dead. We just do not have the honesty here to admit it. The only thing that will save America is a bloody civil war. Because, as long as the enemy lives, even if out of power, they will continue to threaten our liberties. So, it really does come down to literal survival—us or them... and I have no problem eliminating “them” from the equation—permanently.
I had gay friends too. I don’t anymore, I don’t hate them but the more I saw them socially the more the facade started to go away. I choose to stay clear of them. Not one ever hit on me or nor did I ever feel threatened by any one of them. What disturbed me once they felt I was comfortable being around them I saw a whole otherside to this “lifestyle” and it was revolting, scary and quite frankly filled with drugs, sex and dangerous behavior.
There are at least several positives due to this leftist delusional last desperate act: We see clearly the enemy, RINOs are thinned from the herd, AND we grow ever energized and outraged. The sleeping giant not only awakens he is pissed off!
The pendulum ALWAYS swing back and ALWAYS swings beyond where it swung before... It will not be to long before we see leftists weeping and seeking therapy....