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Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry's Family Files Lawsuit against ATF
American Thinker ^ | February 2, 2012 | M Catharine Evans

Posted on 02/02/2012 12:12:26 AM PST by neverdem

The family of murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry has filed a $25-million lawsuit against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, claiming "negligence" and "a violation of ATF's own policies and procedures" resulting in the death of their son.

A separate lawsuit against The Lone Wolf Trading Company stated that "but for defendants' negligent and illegal sales ... Brian Terry would not have been murdered."

Terry was killed when his unit was ambushed near the Arizona-Mexico border on the night of December 14, 2010.  Two AK-47s found at the scene were part of an ATF gun-walking operation allowing the illegal purchase of weapons by straw buyers, who then sold them to a Mexican drug cartel.

Interviewed by Fox News in November, Terry's mother expressed the general feeling of anyone now familiar with Fast and Furious.

If they never let the guns walk, maybe Brian would not have been out that day[.] ... I just can't believe our own government came up with a program like this that [let] innocent people get killed."

Attorney General Eric "My People" Holder, whose Department of Justice oversees the ATF, has claimed for over a year that he knew nothing about the logic-defying, deadly, and secretive program known as Fast and Furious.  President Obama has shielded Holder from charges of perjury, obstruction, and conspiracy.

In October Obama stated that he has "complete confidence" in his Attorney General.

He has been very aggressive in going after gunrunning and cash transactions that are going to these transnational drug cartels in Mexico. He's indicated he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious...


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; lonewolf; lonewolftrading; obama; terry

1 posted on 02/02/2012 12:12:30 AM PST by neverdem
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>> Attorney General Eric “My People” Holder,

grrr...


2 posted on 02/02/2012 12:14:48 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: neverdem

And Richard Nixon resigned over a penny-ante breakin at a DC hotel by a couple of wanna-be Spec-Ops people...


3 posted on 02/02/2012 12:18:57 AM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: djf

and the fanfare; Woodward, Bernstein, Hollywood...


4 posted on 02/02/2012 12:22:01 AM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: neverdem
A couple things with this.

First, I don't support suing the gun store, they were acting for the ATF in these sales. Any dealer would be in a tough position in a case like this because the agency trying to get you to help can also shut you down.

Second, is that they aren't suing the Border Patrol for violating their own use of force policy, sending some of the members of his BORTAC team into the field with less than lethal rounds. If you know somebody is armed you should never start with non lethal shotgun rounds. They sound like real rounds going off. What kind of response do you expect from bad guys in that situation?

5 posted on 02/02/2012 12:22:07 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: neverdem

Will be the top story on the evening news tonight. A Whitewater style cover-up will be covered all over the world. Dang it, I meant Watergate!


6 posted on 02/02/2012 12:24:31 AM PST by DISCO
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To: neverdem; MestaMachine

Very oddly worded (from Obama’s October 2011 statement):

“He’s indicated he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious. Certainly I was not. And I think both he and I would have been very unhappy if somebody had suggested that guns were allowed to pass through that could have been prevented by the United States of America.”


7 posted on 02/02/2012 12:25:09 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: USNBandit

The good thing about including Lone Wolf Trading Company is that Lone Wolf’s lawyer/s will use their forced participation as their primary defense. That will get more negative publicity for Holder and the ATF and open up a lot of ATF/DOJ files for discovery.


8 posted on 02/02/2012 12:35:17 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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thou, everything i-bama says is oddly worded. American isn’t his first language.


9 posted on 02/02/2012 12:35:53 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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Issa is supposed to have Holder testify today, February 2, 2012. If Holder shows up, it should be on C-Span.

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10 posted on 02/02/2012 12:40:01 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
It will also be live on the net on Issa's website.
11 posted on 02/02/2012 12:44:28 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
... That will get more negative publicity for Holder and the ATF and open up a lot of ATF/DOJ files for discovery.

Agreed.

Hopefully knowledge of Holder's Fast & Furious operation will grow legs, and get blown wide open to the public.

12 posted on 02/02/2012 12:46:37 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: neverdem

Even if they win against BATFE-DOJ, those responsible will not be the ones to pay.

It will just be another decimal point of expense to the federal budget.
After the appeals are run out, in about fifteen years.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 12:48:01 AM PST by Loyal Sedition
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To: thouworm; MestaMachine; marktwain; Nachum
Very oddly worded (from Obama’s October 2011 statement):

It's very odd English, IMHO.

“He’s indicated he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious. Certainly I was not..."

Indicated? How so? That, and he felt the need to affirm his ignorance.

14 posted on 02/02/2012 1:04:49 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

“Issa is supposed to have Holder testify today, February 2, 2012. If Holder shows up, it should be on C-Span.”

I don’t think this is going to be on C-SPAN tomorrow!!! As of this hour, it is not on any of the 3 C-SPAN channel line-ups!

However, Issa has set up a live feed here. Hearing begins at 9am, EST:

http://www.fastnfuriousinvestigation.com/2012/02/attorney-general-eric-holder-will.html


15 posted on 02/02/2012 1:11:58 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Cobra64

The families of the 300+ Mexican citizens and LEOs killed with F&F weapons should follow the Terry family and file their own lawsuits. That would kick up some dust.


16 posted on 02/02/2012 1:26:29 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: thouworm

Thanks for the link!


17 posted on 02/02/2012 1:32:44 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; MestaMachine
Even more...

“He’s indicated he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious. Certainly I was not."

Does that not seem a disguised admission of knowledge of an operation known as Fast and Furious, while denying a knowledge of "what was happening" "IN"/WITHIN (i.e, its day-to-day operations) Fast and Furious? At the least, in legalese, can this be construed that Obama admits he had no knowledge of the existence of F&F? I don't think so.

"And I think both he and I would have been very unhappy if somebody had suggested that guns were allowed to pass through that could have been prevented by the United States of America.”

That is nothing more than a statement of a hypothetical emotional state-of-mind in reaction to a hypothetical "suggestion." It says nothing more than that Obama and Holder are theoretically capable of "unhappiness."

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18 posted on 02/02/2012 1:34:53 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: TigersEye

If this forces Lone Wolf to fold, it will be a sleetstorm in Hell before any other arms dealer cooperates with any sting short of a court order.


19 posted on 02/02/2012 2:28:05 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: neverdem

Does it look like they fed a Kenyan text through Babelfish? :-)


20 posted on 02/02/2012 2:29:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: TigersEye

Thank for the link


21 posted on 02/02/2012 3:48:00 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: thouworm
Obama:

“He’s indicated he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious. Certainly I was NOT."

Bill Clinton:

"I did NOT have sex with that woman.. Ms. Lewinski."

22 posted on 02/02/2012 3:51:58 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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23 posted on 02/02/2012 4:03:40 AM PST by bcsco
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24 posted on 02/02/2012 4:33:17 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: neverdem

Yeah, I’d say that sending your guy out against the bad guys—with AK47s—armed with 12ga BEANBAG ROUNDS is a tad worse than mere neglegince.


25 posted on 02/02/2012 5:08:43 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for ALL VOTING. Let our dead rest in peace.)
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26 posted on 02/02/2012 6:28:50 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Flintlock
is a tad worse than mere neglegince.

Misfeasance is the word that comes to my mind.

27 posted on 02/02/2012 6:56:06 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: djf
And Richard Nixon resigned over a penny-ante breakin at a DC hotel by a couple of wanna-be Spec-Ops people...

And no one died as a result of Watergate.

28 posted on 02/02/2012 7:16:20 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.Oh, let me gues)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 02/02/2012 7:37:37 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping.


30 posted on 02/02/2012 8:16:16 AM PST by GOPJ (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: USNBandit
"First, I don't support suing the gun store, they were acting for the ATF in these sales. Any dealer would be in a tough position in a case like this because the agency trying to get you to help can also shut you down."

I suspect that they are including the gun store to insure that the ATF cant stone wall any information that the owners might have on this whole sorry affair. Given the circumstances, I doubt if they expect an actual judgment against the owners.

31 posted on 02/02/2012 9:05:01 AM PST by Desron13
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m not happy about Lone Wolf being included in the lawsuit just recognizing that it makes things worse for ATF/DOJ/Holder et al. Lone Wolf should turn around and file their own lawsuit against ATF for forcing them under the color of law to unknowingly cooperate in unlawful activities.


32 posted on 02/02/2012 1:19:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Texas Fossil

You’re welcome. I hope you got to see it.


33 posted on 02/02/2012 1:23:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Texas Fossil; thouworm
Obama:

“He’s indicated he was not aware of what was happening in Fast and Furious. Certainly I was NOT KNOT."

Bill Clinton:

"I did NOT NAUGHT have sex with that woman.. Ms. Lewinski."

Bill Clinton:

"It depends on if you mean 'not,' 'naught' or 'knot.' Heh."

34 posted on 02/02/2012 1:30:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Why yes, I do expect them to generate a countersuit, although to cover all their options it will probably include accusations of frivolous litigation back against Terry.


35 posted on 02/02/2012 1:39:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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Trying to catch up ping.

Thanks, MM.

36 posted on 02/02/2012 2:48:42 PM PST by LucyT
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